Global Universe is like a 3D Rainbow or Matryoshka dolls

**dapifo** · June 29th, 2012, 09:49 AM

If we consider the Global Universe as the total Universe. (infinite or finite). and we consider Our Universe like that Universe that we know (from 10 exp -35 to 10 exp +27 meters), I propose the idea that we can divide the Global Universe in various (infinite) power of 10 levels or spectra (see attached file). Like a RAINBOW or MATRYOSHKA DOLLS.

These levels/spectra can be posives or negatives, and we can supose that aprox. every googol (10 exp 100) could be a very different Universe with its own science laws, waves, entities and possible living beings.

The shape and appearance of Our and Global Universe is only a "virtual" or "apparent" Univers that we sape or model taking into account the different stimuli that we recive by our senses.

In every level or spectra ther will be different stimuli and we will need different senses and receptors.

If we want to detect these stimuli, we have to try to recive and capture these stimuli (waves,...)...if they arrive to Our Universe.

Global Univ (Ing).pdf (5.24K)

See following document and make a effort of extapolating: What will be beyond these limits?

Limits of Perception full documentary on Science Channel - YouTube

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**Strange** · June 29th, 2012, 10:00 AM

I'm not sure why you posted this in physics as it appears to be wild speculation.

When we look out for others Universes or aliens, we allways supose they have our scale, but this possibility is very low.

Indeed:

Originally Posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

For thousands of years the mighty starships tore across the empty wastes of space and finally dived screaming on to the planet Earth - where, due to a terrible miscalculation of scale, the entire battle fleet was accidentally swallowed by a small dog.

**dapifo** · June 29th, 2012, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Strange

I'm not sure why you posted this in physics as it appears to be wild speculation.

When we look out for others Universes or aliens, we allways supose they have our scale, but this possibility is very low.

Indeed:

Originally Posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

For thousands of years the mighty starships tore across the empty wastes of space and finally dived screaming on to the planet Earth - where, due to a terrible miscalculation of scale, the entire battle fleet was accidentally swallowed by a small dog.

I don´t see the speculation folder (??)...could be pseudoscience folder... but I don´t think so.

This thread is a consequence of the M-Dimension, but as I agree it is not an independent dimension, I would forget it and only I would like to see if other open mind commentators can give their point of view on this.

It´s clear that for you is only a joke and science fiction... it is difficult to find creative and open mind people...

But from my point of view, this topic (althought there are no evidences) could be a break and an inflection point (a before and after) in the history of physics.

Why we don´t try to give proof and evidence that contradict this claim?

If we are unable to find this evidence, it might be true.

And if we reconsider all physical theories within this new framework, we may be able to understand better our global system and progress in a more rapid and clever way.

**AlexG** · June 29th, 2012, 02:06 PM

Why we don´t try to give proof and evidence that contradict this claim?

It's your claim, so it up to you to provide evidence to support it. You've made this claim in several threads on a couple of forums, so support it.

And yes, this belongs in speculations.

**KALSTER** · June 29th, 2012, 02:10 PM

Moving to New Hypothesis and Ideas.

**dapifo** · June 29th, 2012, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by KALSTER

Moving to New Hypothesis and Ideas.

OK....

**dapifo** · June 29th, 2012, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by AlexG

Why we don´t try to give proof and evidence that contradict this claim?

It's your claim, so it up to you to provide evidence to support it. You've made this claim in several threads on a couple of forums, so support it.

And yes, this belongs in speculations.

New ideas and projects always need perseverant people to fight against people like you !!!!

You are a "tocacojones" ... a person who only destroys ... unable to create.

Tou are one of those people that when a theory is academically approved, you defend it above all, without question you anything .

Please, give some proof and evidence that contradict this claim? ...

Give us a demonstration of your skills of dialogue and reason....if you can !!

**AlexG** · June 29th, 2012, 02:37 PM

A standard crank tactic is to come up with some nonsensical claim, and then challenge others to prove him wrong.

That's not how science works. If you have an idea, it's incumbent on YOU to provide evidence and reasoned argument for it. So far, you have totally failed to do either.

**Harold14370** · June 29th, 2012, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by dapifo

Please, give some proof and evidence that contradict this claim? ...

I claim that there is a herd of tiny pink unicorns running around inside your brain, which causes you to post on internet forums. Please give some proof or evidence that contradicts this claim.

**Strange** · June 29th, 2012, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by dapifo

it is difficult to find creative and open mind people...

I expect people that "open minded" are too busy promoting their own crazy theories to listen to yours.

**dapifo** · June 29th, 2012, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Strange

Originally Posted by dapifo

it is difficult to find creative and open mind people...

I expect people that "open minded" are too busy promoting their own crazy theories to listen to yours.

That has been the most clever answer that I read !!!!

You are right... those that are aswering post only to say nothing cannot promoting never anything.

The problem is that to these "open minded" people also nobody will read and answer them.... or....those "close minded" will refuse them.

Do you thing that this forum is more for answering academic questions?.... for students?..or for me when I would like to ask an academic or "state of the art" question?

**Strange** · June 29th, 2012, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by dapifo

You are right... those that are aswering post only to say nothing cannot promoting never anything.

You seem to miss the point; I was trying to point out that when you say "creative and open minded" you mean "gullible and ignorant".

Originally Posted by dapifo

Do you thing that this forum is more for answering academic questions?.... for students?..or for me when I would like to ask an academic or "state of the art" question?

It is for discussing science. Not random speculation like: "Hey! what if the universe is made of chocolate cake".

Originally Posted by dapifo

Why we don´t try to give proof and evidence that contradict this claim?

How about: it is meaningless gibberish with not a shred of evidence and no theoretical basis.

**dapifo** · June 30th, 2012, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Strange

Originally Posted by dapifo

You are right... those that are aswering post only to say nothing cannot promoting never anything.

You seem to miss the point; I was trying to point out that when you say "creative and open minded" you mean "gullible and ignorant".

Originally Posted by dapifo

Do you thing that this forum is more for answering academic questions?.... for students?..or for me when I would like to ask an academic or "state of the art" question?

It is for discussing science. Not random speculation like: "Hey! what if the universe is made of chocolate cake".

Originally Posted by dapifo

Why we don´t try to give proof and evidence that contradict this claim?

How about: it is meaningless gibberish with not a shred of evidence and no theoretical basis.

Well gang ... it would be possible dejarais this thread open to people so "gullible and ignorant" like me?...

If you don´t like my questions is not necessary that you aswer them...but possibly there are nobody else in this forum....

Always answer the same people...

If something is not interesting for you...it doesn´t means it could be interesting for others !!!

I am sorry but I dont understand how works the QUOTE !!!

**Strange** · June 30th, 2012, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by dapifo

Always answer the same people...

If something is not interesting for you...it doesn´t means it could be interesting for others !!!

If you don't want answers from people who understand science and who are willing to spend time attempting to explain things to you, why post these ideas on a science forum. If you just want people to say "oooh, that's interesting" to any old rubbish, then you are in the wrong place.

I am sorry but I dont understand how works the QUOTE !!!

What can I say. Can you be a bit more specific about what you don't understand.

Look at the contents of this post when you click "reply with quote". You will see different parts marked with [QUOTE] [ /QUOTE] tags. You can insert these by selecting text and clicking the "Quote" button at the top of the editor window.

**MeteorWayne** · June 30th, 2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by dapifo

Well gang ... it would be possible dejarais this thread open to people so "gullible and ignorant" like me?...

If you don´t like my questions is not necessary that you aswer them...but possibly there are nobody else in this forum....

Always answer the same people...

If something is not interesting for you...it doesn´t means it could be interesting for others !!!

I am sorry but I dont understand how works the QUOTE !!!

Yes, but then it doesn't belong in the New Hypothese forum

**Strange** · June 30th, 2012, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by dapifo

I am sorry but I dont understand how works the QUOTE !!!

Does this help: https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/misc...o=bbcode#quote
And: https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/faq....q_vb3_replying

**dapifo** · July 1st, 2012, 12:36 PM

If you don't want answers from people who understand science and who are willing to spend time attempting to explain things to you, why post these ideas on a science forum. If you just want people to say "oooh, that's interesting" to any old rubbish, then you are in the wrong place.

I like very much "discuss" with people who understand science.
I like to recieve answers to my questions from who understand science.
I consider my self people who understand science .. but not every thing, if there I wouldn´t be within a forum.
I don´t see that my proposals and questios are so crazy. Although they may be on the edge of the "state of the art", which is what really interests to me.
And in some cases may propose or ask things that are somewhat beyond these limits. But I think this is that just makes the discussion interesting. At least for me.
To discuss or ask issues that are known ... may have interest to students who want to learn to pass academic exams.

What can I say. Can you be a bit more specific about what you don't understand.

I follow your instructions...will see what happen...Thanks a lot !!!

**dapifo** · July 1st, 2012, 12:39 PM

Yes, but then it doesn't belong in the New Hypothese forum

I Think that we are now in the New Hypothese forum, doesn´t we?

**dapifo** · July 1st, 2012, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Strange

Originally Posted by dapifo

I am sorry but I dont understand how works the QUOTE !!!

Does this help: https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/misc...o=bbcode#quote
And: https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/faq....q_vb3_replying

Thak you very much.

You see I am doing it now OK !!

**MeteorWayne** · July 1st, 2012, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by dapifo

Yes, but then it doesn't belong in the New Hypothese forum

I Think that we are now in the New Hypothese forum, doesn´t we?

For the time being...

**dapifo** · July 27th, 2012, 06:43 PM

Here I am again!

I see that this thread has not prospered so far .... So bad is the proposal? ... Or is that nobody cares about?

**Harold14370** · July 27th, 2012, 06:49 PM

Yes, the proposal is that bad, and nobody cares about it.

**dapifo** · July 28th, 2012, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Harold14370

Yes, the proposal is that bad, and nobody cares about it.

I prefer to think that people are still not ready for this idea. Save the thread and we discussed a few years ....

**Strange** · July 28th, 2012, 04:35 AM

You may prefer to think that. But you have shown you are impervious to evidence, logic or theory.

**guymillion** · July 29th, 2012, 04:36 PM

Instead of accepting your "theory" as the absolute truth, you should first go and look at what we know for a fact.

Links:

A neat music video explain certain aspects of quantum theory:
Symphony of Science - the Quantum World! - YouTube

Part one of a three part nova episode about string theory:
Video: The Elegant Universe: Part 1 | Watch NOVA Online | PBS Video

Cool song about the universe:
The Universe is Weird: A Song - YouTube

Cool song about quarks:
Strange Charm: A Song about Quarks - YouTube

I thought the music would make it more interesting to learn.

**dapifo** · July 29th, 2012, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by guymillion

Instead of accepting your "theory" as the absolute truth, you should first go and look at what we know for a fact.

Links:

A neat music video explain certain aspects of quantum theory:
Symphony of Science - the Quantum World! - YouTube

Part one of a three part nova episode about string theory:
Video: The Elegant Universe: Part 1 | Watch NOVA Online | PBS Video

Cool song about the universe:
The Universe is Weird: A Song - YouTube

Cool song about quarks:
Strange Charm: A Song about Quarks - YouTube

I thought the music would make it more interesting to learn.

OK...very nice..are you the glasses singer?