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    I wanted to start an island community somewhere. I would get investments from people who want to live on the island first. Then I would purchase the island which probably costs in the millions. Then I would build small two room houses with a bathroom. The bathroom would have a bucket which residents could wash in the sea. Then I would buy a hardy grass for feeding livestock and grow it in the soil on the island. Then I would purchase goats, rabbits, and chickens for raising for food. Then we would just work and relax an the island all year. Is this a good idea or a bad one? Do I got it right? Is this how you do it?


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    Sounds really easy and idyllic doesn't it...unfortunately in reality things don't normally work out that way. I once knew just such a group of people ( I have relatives in the Pacific Islands, so I know my way around there ); it worked fine initially, but after a while the human factor kicked in and they started quarrelling over who makes the decisions, who gets how much of the food etc etc. Needless to say it didn't work out, in fact it ended in a very tragic way.
    Conceivably it could be done, but I'd say it's much more difficult to make it work than one might think.


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    Theres alot of factors besides just investments.The people doing the investments would want a return on them,then like Markus said the physcological aspect would kick in also.The owner of Virgin records Richard Branson would be the one to ask there he owns an island resort with super stars who pay 15k a weekend come to hang!
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    hell if you get an island I'll try the living off the land aspect but I dont like chicken sh*t and the guts but im a good carpenter..lol
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    You will want to have a gander at Open Source Ecology

    Some incredible work being done with very little fanfare.

    Random people do not a society make. Ego and self-interest will require a counter-balance, (familial/self-imposed), to promote cohesion and cooperation. How would you encourage said cooperation?

    Possibly by division of resource, (market based), and labour. Ensure that each party requires the others in order to minimise the amount of effort put into maintaining their new lifestyle. People being what they are will always look to reap maximum reward for least effort - to the detriment of the community, leading almost inevitably do its fracturing.
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    I was wondering how you handle the first emergency appendectomy.
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    Death?

    I would imagine this would also be SOP for severe tetanus, anaphylaxis, sepsis, dysentery....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustypup View Post
    Death?

    I would imagine this would also be SOP for severe tetanus, anaphylaxis, sepsis, dysentery....
    As long as there is a plan.
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    Another problem may occur.. You won't be an autonomous community. Every piece of land (other than Antarctica) has been spoken for. You will still be subject to the laws of the country you reside in. You'll still have land taxes, and I would imagine there is a massive bureacracy you'd have to work through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876 View Post
    I wanted to start an island community somewhere. Is this a good idea or a bad one? Do I got it right?
    I suggest you bar all potential cyberstalkers and anyone who professes an interest in "beadlingism".
    It might also make sense to banish any "intellectuals" who, for no apparent reason, want to turn a lot of things green.
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    I would purchase goats, rabbits, and chickens for raising for food.
    You'd better be very clear about the balance of plants and animals already there.

    Goats can strip any land bare of green stuff, crops or otherwise. Rabbits are truly, deeply dangerous. Apart from displacing exisiting small animals, they'll not only eat absolutely everything, their burrows can severely damage not just the visual quality of the landscape but the water holding and other structural qualities of the soil. You'll lose not just grasses but shrubs and large trees as well.

    Never heard of any problems with chooks apart from their vulnerability to predators.
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    Never heard of any problems with chooks apart from their vulnerability to predators.
    They crap on everything and wake you at an unreasonable hour.
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    They crap on everything
    In an island community that doesn't want to be too dependent on imported necessities, that crap is a great fertiliser for your veggies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876 View Post
    I would build small two room houses with a bathroom.
    Is that bucket the sole accommodation in the bathroom?

    Does two rooms mean only one bedroom? Coed?

    Will there be attics and basements for storing junk?

    Unless you are invaded or have significant turnover, the gene-pool will collapse.

    Will there be a constitution?

    Will there be a court-house?

    Will there be a howitzer?

    Will citizens be free to leave?

    Booze or no booze?

    Religious freedom?

    Freedom of speech?

    I think that there could be many advantages to living in such as your community. For instance, no federal government, no state government, no county government. Just a town government perhaps with just one big fat mayor.
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