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    Although this presents several ideas (some of them probably not new) the main focus is Chemical Integration, merely because Physical Conditioning is already available to the public and is allowed by law, whereas Chemical Integration is not something fully available to the average person due to laws against even minor and harmless amounts of chemicals from use and integration.


    Physical Conditioning
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    Physical Conditioning is the process of a living being becoming stronger due to a variety of environmental variables that put pressure on the beings overall structure.

    There is evidence for this with humans slightly shattering their bones only to have them grow back stronger, or muscles being slightly torn only to have them grow back stronger as well.


    Chemical Integration
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    Chemical Integration is the process of a living being, over time, acquiring the ability to use foreign chemicals as new sources of nutrients for the purpose of enhanced rate of mutation, and inevitably, increased survivability.

    The hypothesis is that a living being becomes more intelligent by slowly integrating more and more diverse food sources over time. A way to test for this could be achieved by having scientists test the average IQ of those beings with the most diverse diets who have integrated new nutrients that are most compatible with being nutrient-like. A great example of some nutrient-like substances are refined sugar, marijuana, salt, and opiates [unsure if this is true of all opiates, but we have opiate receptors in the brain]. In this theory, poisons and drugs are no longer considered dangerous or harmful but new nutrients that are on there way to being integrated.

    These semi-nutrient drugs are strong evidence for this theory. Marijuana, for example, when consumed in a manner that is active consciously, acts on the endocannabinoid system and causes changes similar to another semi-nutrient substance; salt, because it is both slightly active consciously and (unlike marijuana) it is considered a nutrient.

    Addicts of a substance like alcohol can become so integrated with the chemical that their body treats it like a nutrient and the addict can possibly die without the chemical. Semi-nutrient like substances such as salt, similar to nutrients, have much higher LD50s than more foreign substances like cyanide or arsenic.

    This new theory would give more credit to exploring substances which would be considered completely useless or harmful to a specific species, useless chemicals would include things like the compounds in paper, harmful ones would include cyanide or arsenic. In this system these substances have uses in beings that have better integrated them, which is accurate of scientific findings as various amphibious reptiles and insects who have to have resistances to their own poisons and a diverse diet that allows such synthesis of biological defenses.

    With this system the more and more diverse the trace elements are within your body, the better you are able to synthesize more and more complex organs and internal structures.


    Genetic-Background
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    A Genetic-Background is a living beings background of substances genetically understood and stored more or less readily in their DNA due to environmental conditioning through Chemical Integration.


    Chemi-Genetic Integration
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    Chemi-Genetic Integration is the process of a species adapting new chemicals for their offspring's evolved state of being by storing the information necessary to process and/or repel specific amounts of foreign chemicals as optimal for survivability. We see in the offspring of what would be considered an alcohol addict the child becoming addicted as well, this is evidence that new chemical integration is stored genetically.

    The reason there is undesirable results within the survivability and social integration of these considered addicts is due to the substance being too foreign to their genetics and the amounts too large, this theory builds on the concept that there is no substance in existence known to cause harm at levels small and interspersed enough.

    To test this scientifically would require breeding with beings who are from more diverse Genetic-Backgrounds as the odds of them being able to cope with a foreign substance in poisonous quantities is increased due to the fact that people from different areas of the globe and living conditions are becoming genetically adapted to those new and otherwise foreign substances. We could then test this theory by comparing individuals from more diverse Genetic-Backgrounds with those with less diverse Genetic-Backgrounds in fields that are suited to survivability (IQ, muscle mass, fat percentage, speed, health).


    Physi-Genetic Conditioning
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    Physi-Genetic conditioning is the process of environmental conditions steering the evolution of a being (in mental or physical aspects) towards a specified goal, without the necessity of diversity but merely increased energetic forces modifying the overall structure of the being.

    Chemi-Genetic Integration is only part of the evolutionary process, the other part is Physi-Genetic Conditioning which requires a strong physical need for adaptation, how birds evolved flight, or how water beings came onto land are examples of this adaptation being stored genetically.


    Chemi-Physical Integrative Conditioning
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    The hypothesis for Chemi-Physical Integrative Conditioning is that for evolution to occur there needs to be both a new chemical readily available as stored genetically through Chemi-Genetic Integration and a Physical Conditioning process working simultaneously.

    This could be shown in testing with Chemical Integration as subjects taking the pill (with as diverse chemicals as possible) are given a large amount of time without much physical activity, then, given a large amount of time with a lot of physical activity. This, along with gradually increasing difficulty (height and distance for jumps, speed and power of punches and running speed are some examples), is then compared with those who have not taken this pill for diversity. The diets of the subjects would have to be closely monitored to ensure proper nutrients are available to each of them equally.

    As each new chemical is introduced gradually to a species these chemicals are used to synthesize necessary organs, and, on an even more primal level, causing differences in things such as radiation absorption amount and rate at DNA level and thus diversifying mutation. Inevitably, this would cause some of those diversified offspring to survive much better than their non-diversified cousins, and also, their brothers with non-beneficial mutations.


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    Updated supporting concepts:

    - those that get their body used to integrating with various chemicals have an innate ability to then withstand large outbursts of specific chemicals relative to those who do not, this is due to the bodies ability to synthesize defenses as needed from the diverse chemicals found in the more chemically integrated host, this is why those that chemically integrate (whether on purpose or not) are more able to survive than those who do not


    - animal products slow down your evolution because you cannot gain the amount of chemical integration and internal biodiversity necessary for drastic mutations due to
    you gaining a large majority of your chemicals from a source that has mostly broken down the intriguing and complex long-chain chemical compounds (that allow mutation,
    especially drastic mutation) into chemicals that can only sustain current modality of beingness without any room for expansion


    - veganism will force the body to either die of malnutrition or gain an exponentially larger amount of diverse chemicals to be integrated into the body innately if the
    nutritional needs are actually met, anyone interested in chemically integrated should aim towards a more vegan diet if possible


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    Chemical integration and physical conditioning really aren't all that different. For example, if I continuously go out in the sun, my body will tan, producing more melanin. This doesn't mean that the physical conditioning translates directly into my reproductive DNA.

    I think what you're trying to say is chemical integration is a physical adaption by mutation of DNA. While this may be possible, I don't think it happens to the extent that you're seeking.

    For example, you say an alcoholic will pass this chemical integration of alcohol to their offspring. But that assumes alcohol actually mutated the person's sexual DNA, which I don't believe to be the case. Alcohol is a poisen that your body adapts too, and just like sunlight, too much will hurt you. But to say alcohol will evolve yourself and your children into beings more likely to integrate alcohol as a nutrient doesn't make sense. Alcohol causes severe brain damage over time, liver damage, and possible kidney failure. People have been drinking for thousands of years, and this has not changed.

    There are some chemicals that are called nutrients because we receive more benefit then harm from them. I don't see some of the things you state, alcohol, and marijuana, as nutrients, but substances that cause a chemical change in the body. Over time, there are harmful effects to this.

    Further, you claim animal products will slow down mutation, but that's against the evolutionary grain. High protein diets always result in more intelligent creatures. I'm not knocking vegetarianism, but high protien and fat allowed the energy needed to construct higher order brains. You can be vegetarian, but you still need a certain amount of protein to retain your intellect and health.

    All in all, its a nicely written theory, and chemical integration may be possible, but not to the extent you've written on today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wirius View Post
    Alcohol is a poisen that your body adapts too, and just like sunlight, too much will hurt you. But to say alcohol will evolve yourself and your children into beings more likely to integrate alcohol as a nutrient doesn't make sense. Alcohol causes severe brain damage over time, liver damage, and possible kidney failure. People have been drinking for thousands of years, and this has not changed.
    You're right that Alcohol is a poison, but only because we consider it as such and have classified it as such due to it's poor threshold between pleasurable positive response and death. Every substance (provided a substantial enough dose in extreme cases) can cause just as much destruction on the body, the only difference is the amount of volume, take water for example, the most basic of consumed chemical compounds for a human. The effects of water intoxication are just as frightening as alcohol, the difference is the threshold in which water causes these problems is much larger.

    Water is much safer than alcohol, but if you trust your instinct on how much of each your body requires, neither one will cause harm, and, anyone who has drank a substantial amount in their life I'm sure would admit at least on a surface level the alcohol can cause positive effects in their life comparable to water, in it's own way. If only to shed some of your anxiety to do something that in what would be considered a sober mind would be too daunting, to give a direct and obvious example of Alcohols positive effects (compared to the much more fully integrated substance that we call water).
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    Quote Originally Posted by webmaster View Post
    There are two type of chemical are available one is good for health and environment and second is like toxic...
    That is obviously not true. There are many chemicals which are essential for life but are toxic in large quantities. Salt is the most obvious example but it is true of many vitamins as well.
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    Updated supporting concepts:

    - the act of being around lots of people is difficult not only due to sensual overload, but due to the diverse chemicals coming off of other humans, and your body attempting to understand and interpret them is taxing, this is why some people are very difficult to be around for no real reason other than people consider them "odd", the factors of this oddity is brought on by being much more chemically integrated than average, and naming the specific things that would be considered weird would be overly subjective to the point of being negligible

    - well integrated people who actively physically integrate would be more attractive, if there was testing done on whether or not people are more attractive when chemically integrated (or if there are any tests on whether or not people who do a wide range of psychoactive drugs are more attractive out there already), it would be evidence chemical integration is more viable for evolution


    - alcohol can numb the nervous system (along with many other CNS depressant drugs), this is often why people drink in social situations, it allows them to stop feeling "nervous"... aka... bombarded with information from the chemicals modifying your nervous system at the signal level in your brain from feeling the chemicals effects, and/or, feeling the chemicals and radiation at the level of nerves throughout the body
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    Updated supporting concepts:

    - the act of being around lots of people is difficult not only due to sensory overload, but due to the diverse chemicals coming off of other humans, and your body attempting to understand and interpret them is taxing, this is why some people are very difficult to be around for no real reason other than people consider them "odd", the factors of this oddity is brought on by being much more chemically integrated than average, and naming the specific things that would be considered weird would be overly subjective to the point of being negligible

    - weirdness is always a sign of evolution, lesser evolved beings, although they may try to look different, look just like other lesser evolved beings in the eyes of much more advanced beings due to their chemical integration level allowing them to retain information better in their memory on what types of movement are being used by what type of individual

    - the act of moving in a manor that is different than ways you have in the past is a factor in physical conditioning, chemical diversity is as important as diversity of motion, this is what will train your body to understand and react to circumstances as best as possible

    - due to these factors, socializing with many people is a perfectly viable method of getting a baseline amount of chemical integration


    - well integrated people who actively physically integrate would be more attractive, if there was testing done on whether or not people are more attractive when chemically integrated (or if there are any tests on whether or not people who do a wide range of psychoactive drugs are more attractive out there already), it would be evidence chemical integration is more viable for evolution

    - alcohol can numb the nervous system (along with many other CNS depressant drugs), this is often why people drink in social situations, it allows them to stop feeling nervous,
    which would be in part due to being bombarded with information from the chemicals modifying your nervous system at the signal level in your brain from feeling the chemicals effects, and, feeling the chemicals and radiation at the level of nerves throughout the body

    - this may also be extended to radiation causing brain signals to change based on the information they carry, like it does with chemicals, with most likely much lesser impact on the changes in the system in comparison to chemicals due to their size difference, in addition to radiations major effect which is piercing cell structure and causing DNA to align in different ways, which is also a factor in evolution, and is a form of physical conditioning on a micro level
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    Updated supporting concepts:

    - breath is the most primal method of chemical integration, and can be physically conditioned to allow easier chemical integration in the long run by agitating it with high/low temperatures or diverse chemicals in the form of vapors or smokes

    - the fastest way to test chemical integration would be through breath, it could be accomplished by a double blind study by integrating diverse vapour compared to plain oxygen or the compounds found in the average sample of air, subjects would be tested on reaction speed before and after, IQ before and after, tests that ramp up physical exersion should show chemically integrated subjects doing exponentially better, compared to diet based integration or integration from environmental chemicals through pores this would be drastically faster
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    - DMT is the current greatest chemical, it represents the ultimate knowledge of our world, DMT should only be done out of EXTREME boredom AFTER already trying it's simpler calmer precursor found in Psilocybin. DMT is a 5 minute experience as we feel it, but all reported users say it is an eternity, it is a method of experiencing eternity and coming back to life exactly as you were before hand. Absolute proof that our existence is safe.

    - Slowing your breath, alternatively, if you have NO access to chemicals, can be used to achieve the exact same effect, in it's subtle and calm form.

    There MAY be more powerful chemicals in the future that allow us to use DMT more freely, but at this time DMT is what I've found to be most illuminating.

    This should free us, internally, from the struggle of thinking our existence is not safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedr0 View Post
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    Followed immediately by specious drivel.
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    Can anyone explain to me what the hell this is supposed to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    Can anyone explain to me what the hell this is supposed to be?
    I think it's just an illustration of the phrase "Drugs are bad for you".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Can anyone explain to me what the hell this is supposed to be?
    I think it's just an illustration of the phrase "Drugs are bad for you".
    No, diverse drugs in combination with physical activity will cause you to evolve... for better or worse... certain psychedelics will cause you to learn things that may change your mental evolution (thus the DMT warning), other drug types do other more obvious things.

    If evolving sounds bad, then yes, it will be bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedr0 View Post
    No, diverse drugs in combination with physical activity will cause you to evolve...
    Nonsense. You, as an individual, cannot evolve. Populations eveolve, not individuals.

    Unless you are using the word in some metaphorical, new-age, hippy-idiot, sense. In which case, I assume the more literal meaning is "turn into a drug-addled moron".

    certain psychedelics will cause you to learn things that may change your mental evolution
    No. They might delude you into thinking you have learnt something profound. But you haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Nonsense. You, as an individual, cannot evolve. Populations eveolve, not individuals.
    The definition of evolution does include individual changes as another definition, sorry for the confusion...

    You can call it mutation if it makes it any clearer.

    Psychedelics follow the mutation model quite closely... the changes in brain chemistry from psychedelic use gives more useless new ideas than it gives useful new ideas.
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    You don't have a clue what you are talking about, do you.
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