July 5th, 2006, 10:50 AM
It's causes seem to vary. A biological imperative is ruled out by the Seville Statement. Re: http://forums.delphiforums.com/subedai . The relatively low profile of this quintessential crisis is not a good sign.
Make peace. Just do it? How simple and complex is it?
How complex and simple it is...
All Things Bright & Beautiful All Creatures Great & Small
All Things Warm & Wonderful The Lord God Made Them All
Sorry, It may be that your writing style is unfamiliar to me, but I dont understand your point. Can you rephrase you question or statement so that it stands on its own(without a link and by specifying what the 'it' is refering to)?
(PS: I was able to follow your answer about gravity, but in this case Im not shure what the topic is really about)
July 6th, 2006, 12:34 PM
Dear icewendigo:
Over reliance on the information I access in the 'clicker' URL is probably keeping me from carrying on a comprehensive dialogue. I'm new to all this and keep referring people to books instead of conversation. With the exception of Pendragon, it doesn't seem like my visitors have time to read large quantities of material. Please excuse my poor judgement. I've been leaving URL addresses for reference, though there are no accomodations for conversation or Guest Commentary at those locations and it was my hope that such communications would occur here on a site like this, after a Reader perused the referenced book.
Quite apparently I wa mistaken.
The'it' I refer to generally referst to waging peace, doing and saying what one may to encourage the posititve and discourage the negative, since in fact what Voltaire once called 'the war of it all' is routinely taking place all around us at one level or another.
Thank you for your post, it made me realize some important things about what I'm not doing in my TOPICS, though I have participated in several posts. In the TOPICS I access the reader to a book - several of them, depending on the TOPIC; whereas, when I join a conversation in a post I'm participational.
Needless to say, the title I chose for this topic is another way of saying that if mankind doesn't end war, war will end mankind. By your leave, sir, I've transported an anthology of reference books that relate to the subject of the causes, effects and possible remedies for violence in genera and war in particular. I don't expect you to acquire or read the list but it does provide an insight regarding the subjects at hand. We can talk about 'it' with a better understanding of what we're talking about from now on. It includes suggestons for deterring any kind of avoidable violence and warfare and I should have specified that from the beginning. I sincerely beg your pardon.
Might you have time to check out the last f or 4 chapters of NOMADS, CIVILIZATION & WAR at http://forums.delphiforums.com/subedai ?
Certainly it's not a requirement and I realize that it takes time. Because of your reply I think I now have a better understanding about why my TOPIC posts aren't active. People stop by, but they apparently haven't the time to invest in the information I access them to.
Anyway, thank you once again, and here's a list of related subjects that amounts to the bibliography of the above referenced book:
THE ART OF WAR - Sun Tzu
ON WAR - Karl Von Clauzewitz
ON AGGRESSION - Konrad Lorenz
ON KILLING - Lt. Col. Grossman
ON VIOLENCE: The Code Of Denial & Silence;
The Normalization Of Betrayals Of Oaths Of Public Office
- K.B. Robertson
THE ANATOMY OF HUMAN DESTRUCTIVENESS - Eric Fromm
AN INTIMATE HISTORY OF KILLING:
Face To Face Killing In The 20th Century
- Joanna Bourke
THE BATTLE FOR HISTORY - John Keegan
THE ABUSE OF POWER - Theodore Draper
TO END WAR - R. Pickus & R. Woito
THE RIDE OF THE SECOND HORSEMAN - R. L. O’Connell
A HISTORY OF WARFARE - John Keegan
DUPLICITY, INTRIGUE, BRUTE FORCE & INTIMIDATION:
The Male Sexist Oracle. The American Way - K.B. Robertson
WOMEN IN WAR - Shelly Saywell
THE CAUSES & PREVENTION OF WAR - Brown
THE DECLINE & FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE - Edward Gibbon
THE FIRST CASUALTY - Phillip Knightly
(‘In times of war, truth is the first casualty’. - Sen. H. Johnson, 1917)
THE MASK OF COMMAND - John Keegan
THE RISE & FALL OF GREAT POWERS - Paul Kennedy
THE OUTLINE OF HISTORY - H.G. Wells
GENGHIS KHAN - Harold Lamb
THE EARTH IS THE LORD’S - Taylor Caldwell
POLAND - James Michener
The I CHING - author(s) unknown.
THE KORAN - Muhammed
The TORAH & TALMUD - author(s) unknown
The BAGHADVAD GITA - author(s) unknown
THE ROYAL HORDES - E.D. Phillips
HISTORY OF THE MONGOLS - Bertold Spuler
VIOLENCE & CRIME: In Cross National Perspective
- Archer and Gartner
THE GOOD WAR - Studs Terkel
THE DIALECTIC CYCLE - Cyclic Pendulum - OF HISTORY - Friedrich Hegel
THE PELOPONNESIAN WARS
The Self Destruction Of The Greek State By Civil Wars - Herodotus (& standard references.)
DESCRIPTIONS OF THE NEW WORLD: The Travels Of Marco Polo
- Marco Polo, translated by William Marsden
THE VOYAGE OF THE BEAGLE - Charles Darwin
THE COMPETITIVE IMPERATIVE - K.B. Robertson
ANTI VIOLENCE STATEMENTS: Suppression Of Great Minds - Albert Einstein
THE HISTORY OF THE MINOANS - Standard reference sources
SOLDIERS - John Keegan
THE POLITICS OF EXPERIENCE - R.D. Laing
THE YASA - Genghis Khan (As translated by Rashid al Din.)
THE DISCOVERERS - Daniel J. Boorstin
THE DESCENT OF WOMAN - Elaine Morgan
THE ASCENT OF MAN - J. Bronowski
THE NAKED APE - Desmond Morris
OUR ORIENTAL HERITAGE - Will Durant
THE LOOM OF LANGUAGE - Frederick Bodmer
THE SOURCE - James Michener
THE CIVIL WAR - National Geographic
POLITICAL TERRORISM - Grant Wardlaw
NUEROLINGUSTIC PROGRAMMING - Richard W. Bandler
OPERANT CONDITIONING, BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION
& (so called) PSYCHOMOLECULAR RESTRUCTURING
- Standard informational resources
WORLD WAR II - John Keegan
CIVILIZATION & ITS DISCONTENTS - Sigmund Freud
THE TERRITORIAL IMPERATIVE - Robert Ardrey
AMUSING OURSELVES TO DEATH - Neil Postman
RUNNING FROM SAFETY - Richard Bach
EXTRAORDINARY POPULAR DELUSIONS AND THE MADNESS OF CROWDS
- Mackay
THE ART OF MISSING THE POINT: When You Can’t Afford To Catch On
- K.B. Robertson
“*GEORGE ORWELL’S (1984) PREDICTIONS ARE RIDICULOUS.”
- *Time / Life Publishers (*1/1/’84 Feature Article)
BRUTE FORCE, THE MALE SEXIST ORACLE: The American Way
- K.B. Robertson
WINNING THROUGH INTIMIDATION - Ringer
THE UNDECLARED WAR AGAINST AMERICAN WOMEN - Susan Faludi
A MOVEABLE VIETNAM: A Continental Misunderstanding - K.B. Robertson
THE ART OF BEING - Fromm
THE SANE SOCIETY- Fromm
ON BEING HUMAN - Fromm
EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE - Goleman
TRANSFORMING A RAPE CULTURE - Buchwald, Fletcher & Roth
CONSPIRACIES, COVER-UPS & CRIMES:
Political Manipulation & Mind Control In America - J. Vankin
THE ART OF LOVING - Fromm
THE CONQUEST OF HAPPINESS - Bertrand Russell
THE UNREALITY INDUSTRY
The Deliberate Manufacturing Of Falsehoods And What It Is Doing To Our Lives
- Mitroff & Bennis
HOW REAL IS REAL?
Confusion, Disinformation & Communication - Watzlawick
“...let us go down and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” - Genesis 11:7 (Refer, 1984 <NewSpeak & DoubleThink> by George Orwell)
25 YEARS OF CENSORED NEWS - P. Phillips
AGAINST OUR WILL: Men, Women & Rape - Susan Brownmiller
BATTERED & BULLIED WOMEN MAKE BETTER PANCAKES & BURGERS
- K.B. Robertson
ESCAPE FROM FREEDOM - Fromm
THE UNDISCOVERED SELF - Jung
THE INVISIBLE (‘What?’) WAR: A War Of Perception
K.B. Robertson
THE CONQUEST OF THE UNITED STATES
- K.B. Robertson
WHY KAREN SILKWOOD WAS MURDERED - Author unknown
MEMORIES, DREAMS & REFLECTIONS - Jung
MAN AND HIS SYMBOLS - Jung
MAN FOR HIMSELF - Fromm
THE ARCHTYPES & THE COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS - Jung
WAR and ANTI-WAR: Survival At The Dawn Of The 21st Century
Alvin and Heidi Tofler (Authors of FUTURE SHOCK and THE THIRD WAVE)
THE JUDICIAL, JOURNALISTIC & ROGUE CIA INSPIRED
CODE OF SILENCE IN SANTA CRUZ COUNTY:
A Memorial Of The Murder Of Corine Christensen In 1986
- K.B. Robertson
Dear icewendigo, please let me know what you think of this, and all advise, questions or answers, contributions, etceteras, will be much appraciated.
- Rascal Puff
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