# Thread: Important Black Hole constant

1. When a mass M hanging on a string, is lowered into a Black Hole slowly,
total braking energy is E.

Two objects of mass M would give energy two times E.

If Black Hole was two times bigger, braking energy would be same as before.

So, braking energy seems to be proportional to M only.
So, E=M*K
where K is a Black Hole constant.

What is the value of K?

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3. Originally Posted by jartsa
When a mass M hanging on a string, is lowered into a Black Hole slowly,
total braking energy is E.

Two objects of mass M would give energy two times E.

If Black Hole was two times bigger, braking energy would be same as before.

So, braking energy seems to be proportional to M only.
So, E=M*K
where K is a Black Hole constant.

What is the value of K?

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Where did this particular bit of nonsense come from ? Your over-worked imagination ?

This belongs in Psuedoscience or the Trash Can.  4. Originally Posted by DrRocket

Where did this particular bit of nonsense come from ? Your over-worked imagination ?

This belongs in Psuedoscience or the Trash Can.

Maybe. I have seen a comment that theoretical physics is pseudo science, in the
site discussion sub forum. This forum seems to be a little bit silly in that way.  5. Originally Posted by jartsa
total braking energy is E.

What do you mean by braking energy? There is no energy required to overcome gravitational attraction, just force. Force doesn't always mean energy. Force that results in Movement is energy. Force that just keeps things where they are is not.

Ie. if you fall into a gravitational field, you gain energy because you're allowing the force to move you. (Losing potential energy, but gaining kinetic energy.)

You see, forces are transducers. (Also sometimes a means of tranferring energy too.) When you hit the brakes on your car, the brakes convert some of the car's kinetic energy (due to the speed of its motion) into heat energy (due to the brake pads heating up). But... no energy is created. There is no such thing as "braking energy", just "braking force".  6. Originally Posted by kojax
What do you mean by braking energy?

There is a downhill in my story
And there is the word "slowly".

Do you understand now?  7. This is a new version of post 1 (for Kojax) ("braking" replaced with "pulling"):

When a mass M hanging on a string, is lowered into a Black Hole slowly,
total pulling energy is E.

Two objects of mass M would give energy two times E.

If Black Hole was two times bigger, pulling energy would be same as before.

So, pulling energy seems to be proportional to M only.
So, E=M*K
where K is a Black Hole constant.

What is the value of K?  8. Now I see Kojax didn't ask me what braking energy is. I only read the first line, you
see.  