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  1. #1 quantum gravity 
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    Since it seems to me as though it should be obvious, I'm expecting someone to know something I don't and enlighten me.

    It seems to me as though wave-function collapse and gravity should be realized to be the same thing. Aren't all orbiting systems 3-dimensional waves? If this is true, then the forces binding orbitals together would be the result of wave-function collapse, creating individual points of matter rather than superstates. Perhaps our solar system is a hologram of a wave or something, but there's no arguing that the structure of the solar system, galaxies, atoms, etc are all perfectly mappable to the 2-d wave visualization we are all familiar with.

    If history lines were drawn tailing behind planets and the sun as the solar system flew through spacetime, the resulting image would look exactly like our 2-d image of a wave over time, when viewed from a fixed position adjacent to the direction of the system's movement. I know my ideas are unclear but I feel like I must be missing something because this makes too much sense for most people to ignore it.

    edit: also, if the gravitational bonds between objects within the system were drawn out as part of the wave diagram, the result would look like DNA. just a thought.


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    I know I'm not allowed to "bump" my own threads, but could I get some kind of input from someone? anyone? If this idea is bunk then please, someone say so. Otherwise, I'll have to take silence as evidence that no one is arguing my statement.

    As I've been told, I must add something of value to the original post in order to keep myself out of trouble for bumping this:

    I believe that this may be caused by interference patterns; infinite energy waves collapsing on a point due to an interference pattern, for the same reason that wave-function collapse occurs at the quantum level.


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    I think you need to think through your idea a bit more and maybe read up on gravity. What you've described doesn't make much sense. (Just to begin, gravity bonds everything with everything, and doesn't produce perfect circles.)
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    ok forget what i said about DNA, and I never said anything about perfect circles. what I'm basically stating is the wave function collapse causes gravity, or vise versa, or they're just related somehow.
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    I can't see any relation between wave function collapse and things that if you look at them in a certain way look like waves.
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    if matter at its basic level acts like a wave and our observation of particles is what takes a wave out of superposition, it seems to us to no longer be a wave but that is not true, we are only observing the interference pattern that our observation creates. in this context, since all matter is made of waves, then connecting things that look like waves is not arbitrary as you see it. it is a collection of waveforms in the shape of a large wave, and I would have to say that this is unlikely to be a coincidence in any type of energy system where oscillation occurs. I challenge you find a way to look at the solar system or atoms in such a way that they do NOT look like a wave which has collapsed.

    not to mention that the action of wave-function collapse, where energy collapses into a single point, seems extremely similar to gravity's action upon mass. maybe i'm just completely delusional for thinking this. isn't gravity's end-all action upon mass going to result in the equivalent of large scale wave-function collapse, otherwise known as black holes?

    are there any hard facts that would disprove or conflict with this at all?
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  8. #7 Can we discuss your ideas on Quantum waves? 
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    I have been researching the reports on so-called reported U.F.O interaction with Military missile installations. Theoretical advanced physics, dispersed energy projections?

    Human kind has a way of reading into technical data avoiding simple elementary physics.

    REVERSED MAGNETIC CHARGED PARTICLE FUSION TECHNOLOGY.

    Charged Positive/negative protons and neutrons existing in fluid space.

    Charged particle fusion within a confined reversed magnetic field. (Quantum Polarity)

    Quantum polarity particle beam conversion ratio of element 115 to 116 energy displacement (helium neculous) controlled high yield energy displacement flux supportive battery system (Quantum Flow) Quantum conversion of fluid space similar to the continuous energy dispersed by a Quasar.

    Possible uses are as follows. PROPULSION AND SPECIFIC WEAPONS USES.

    In theory a Gravitational slingshot of any fixed magnetic field within fluid space IE a star, moon, or planetary object. A reversed magnetic field or pulse generated and absorbed within a positive polarity of charged particles of protons and neutrons.

    In theory the energy within the magnetic flux takes space that is constant rate of speed from point A to point B and bends or warps the fabric of fluid space.

    Within the guidelines of this technology allows for Controlled frequency E.M.P via satellite transmission or other means of delivery of said weapon or device used to place any electrical device inert without any signs of damage to equipment effected by said CF EMP via air craft or satellite in orbit.

    In other words some would say perhaps no need for Nukes in Space type Star Wars defense system.

    This area of study can be very complex and proper use of computer generated concept designs would be a great way to share how this process works. I openly admit I am not a expert on this technology and only wish to share and learn what other people have possibly discovered within this field of study.

    Anyone else open minded enough to share or comment on this field of study?

    I am no expert in the field of Magnetic propulsion, and I am no UFO freak, I have been studying the different aspects of energy, and have discovered one must think outside the box in terms that are excepted as fact.

    Sorry if what I am saying sounds bizarre as it ll sure seemed just that to me. Trying to discover how each aspect of what I was trying to portray takes a lot of time and research.

    Studying everything from how a Pulsar or solar star ejects energy into open space and how that matter/anti matter is dispersed via gravitational fields in open space and follow magnetic fields similar to how a water flows in a river and works in conjunction with quantum physics.

    This charged particle spacial fluid energy source can be safely collected through reversed magnetic polarity in theory creating a endless energy conversion or a steady high yield quantum flow.
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  9. #8 objuctive thoughts 
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    most every thing we base our thoughts and studies on are formulated around someoneelses theroies at one time all of the world was shure that the world was flat well they were rong it took some one looking at things for themselves not from someoneelses perspective or therysin fact the systome as we know it some say it is flat on the contrary it is how should i say a ball inside a ball inside a ball inside a ball inside a ball and so on each time something is created from the center of all the balls each solar systome moves a step closer to the edge of the outer portion of the ball they are in when they reach the between point of entering into a new ball the earth goes into tormoil poles switch and calamities acure that is why anchent siviligations recorded in sutch detail the stars and the move ment of them becouse they could fortell when they would pass through the next ball
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    i think you hit the nail head on with the hammer. if you break everything down to particle physics, you will find that you can not only explain gravity, but you can explain magnetism, quarks, bosons and leptons as well. ive been wanting to do an experiment with spinning balls of water under water. see what different wave functions we get depending upon what axis' are rotating. my assumption is that there are tiny particles floating everywhere, infinitely smaller than quarks leptons and bosons. how these particles are spinning and bouncing around determines what it is. there has to be particles because light is a wave and a wave cannot travel through nothing.
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