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    Hi fellow netizens , I am coming back.

    I am going to introduce some of my works in theorectical research about the universe.

    The works done range from Axiom of Physics ( so called G Gauge) all the way up to Information Entity of the Universe (so called IE of the Universe) , and showcase a sysmetic theory so called Feeding Back Theory of the Universe.
    From now on , I am going to gradually present them to the reader here .
    The first one to be presented is Axiom of Physics.

    Before that , I would like to ask you following question:
    Do you know what is real physical form of an physical existence which is assigned by the sign of its certain physical unit ?
    For instance ,
    For any substance with 1 kg mass assigned by the sign of mass unit , then what is its physical form of the substance with 1 kg mass ? Can we get mathematical expression of its physical form?
    Alike what are physical forms of any physical existences assigned by signs of their physical units? Can we get mathematical expressions of physical forms of these phyiscal existences?
    Obviously No one consider signs of physical units themselvies to be physical forms of physical existence assigned by all those signs of physical units . Thus what the hell are all these physical forms ? What the hell are those mathematical expressions for them?
    Your avaluation and comments to what I shall present are highly appreciated.
    Thanks


     

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    1 kg of matter can have lots of different "forms of physical existence", from a cobblestone to Grandma's wind-up alarm clock to a netbook to a smallish ostrich egg.

    For starters, give me the mathematical expression for a cobblestone. Say, the black one (top left) in this picture:


    Make sure your expression reflects the shape of the stone (which is different from the others in the photo) with the T-shaped protrusion we see on its face, as well as the mechanical, thermal and chemical properties of the granite.

    Yes indeed, what the hell might be the mathematical expression for that...

    Then we'll talk about the clock.


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    Let me make more clear about this question.

    Yes , 1 kg mass has numerous physical forms like stone , honey , carbon and so on . But I meant that what kind of common physical form is all substances with 1 kg mass identically?
    In another word , Is there objectively such common physical forms for all of them? If there is , then what the hell is mathematical expression of such common physical forms ?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhang zhi qiang
    Let me make more clear about this question.

    Yes , 1 kg mass has numerous physical forms like stone , honey , carbon and so on . But I meant that what kind of common physical form is all substances with 1 kg mass identically?
    In another word , Is there objectively such common physical forms for all of them? If there is , then what the hell is mathematical expression of such common physical forms ?
    You have not made it more clear, if you ask me. In fact, I have no idea what you are asking.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhang zhi qiang
    Let me make more clear about this question.

    Yes , 1 kg mass has numerous physical forms like stone , honey , carbon and so on . But I meant that what kind of common physical form is all substances with 1 kg mass identically?
    In another word , Is there objectively such common physical forms for all of them? If there is , then what the hell is mathematical expression of such common physical forms ?
    there is no common form, sorry.
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    Let me try again.

    Everyone should agree physical forms of physical existeces (objective existences) are not sign of physical units dessignated to them. Such as,
    sign of kg is not objiective physical form for any substance with one unit of mass
    sign of J is not objective physical form for one unit of energy
    sign of K is not objective physical form for one unit of thermodymatic temperature
    sign of N is not objective physical form for one unit of force
    ......................
    A specific sign of physical unit is used to designate corresponding physical existence but not objective physical form of the existence , then what the hell are physical form of these physical existences in nature being dessignated by those signs of physical units in physics?
     

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    Zhang,
    You seem to be talking about arbitrary units, call them what you want, it makes no difference to anything.
     

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    Actually I want to figure out what the hell are all physical existences designated by
    signs of physical units in terms of its physical forms existed in nature.

    As mentioned above , everyone know that physical forms existed in nature of all those physical existences are absolutely not that of signs of physical units ,but these physical existences do exist in nature. they certainly have its physical forms in nature.
    I want to figure out what kind of components by which these physical existences being designated by signs of physical units really are ?

    May be , all these physical existences are universally consists of several fundamental space time components in a delicate way.

    Is that possible?
    How do you think about this idea ?
     

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    Well informally (and quite practically) a kilogram as you know is a litre of water. That's an anthropocentric measure, same as using sun for days and years.
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    WWhat the hell ,What kind of stuff really are energies of one Joule composed of ?hat the hell ,What kind of stuff really are tempertarue of one Kelvin composed of ?
    What the hell ,What kind of stuff really are .......?????????????????????????????????
     

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    Maybe you're asking a deep question. I don't get it.
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    You are very honest , thanks .

    It seems that comtemporary theories in physics and cosmology can not figure out such question.
    Yes , indeed such questions are the most essential ones explored in frontier of modern physics which has not been capable of getting bottom of them.

    I am going to reveal veil of these mysterious stuff and present you their real physical forms existing in nature.
     

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    temperature is a measurement. If I say look there the sky....the air their is 20 degress celsius it is meaningless. You need a contact/interaction between a thermometer and the air or another interaction depends on how you want to measure. Saying it is twenty degrees is an interaction.

    Mass is given an exceptional status in fysics as you should seperate it from weigth or are learned you should.

    But what is mass without the constant of gravity ? Actually no more then a theory that had to be prooven by an experiment.

    So without the constant of mass the idea of mass as a property has no real value. Only a comperative/measuring value thrue weighing or accelerating (where a kg is inside the definition of the unit for force so no logic value to find there.

    So where do you begin to proof the formula of gravity (and proof that mass is really a property of things) ? you need a few masses and meassure. But as long as you have no constant you have no mass as a real property (or form) for things so it,,s a cirkle logic. the torsionbalance can,t proof it, and acceleration with a force can,t.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhang zhi qiang
    It seems that comtemporary theories in physics and cosmology can not figure out such question.
    Yes, indeed such questions are the most essential ones explored in frontier of modern physics which has not been capable of getting bottom of them.

    I am going to reveal veil of these mysterious stuff and present you their real physical forms existing in nature.
    There is nothing mysterious here at all. Firstly, you have to understand the proper definitions of what you are talking about. For example, energy: Energy is the ability to do work. All a unit does is make a universal scale for comparing the amount of energy something has. The unit for energy is the Joule. One joule is defined as the amount of work done by a force of one newton moving an object through a distance of one metre. It is that simple really, where is the confusion?
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    well , what is force? What is force consists of ? What is one newton of force consists of ?
    well , what is distance? What is distance consists of ? What is one meter of distance consists of ?
     

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    Okay... do you have a leg with a foot? Can you say this foot is by definition "one zhang zhi qiang foot" long? You could proceed from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zhang zhi qiang
    Waveman28
    well , what is force? What is force consists of ? What is one newton of force consists of ?
    well , what is distance? What is distance consists of ? What is one meter of distance consists of ?
    In the case of the units we use to measure things, they consist of whatever we agree they consist of. Because they're units of measurement, and units of measurement are defined by people. That we agree upon such definitions somewhat arbitrarily does not make what they measure in any way subjective or arbitrary. If you're struggling with that concept then I honestly doubt you're going to get very far here.
     

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    May be , I confused you due to poor in my English to convey what I really mean.
    Try in this way , Do you think following physical quantities are objective existences existing in nature ?
    1 kilogram of substance of any kind / 2 Coulomb of charges / 3 Ampare of electric current / 4 Weber of magnetic flux / 5 Newton of force / 6 Joule of energies / 7 meter of one dimensional space / 8 Seconds of time / a certain amounts of information / an event happening .

    If you agree that all these physical quantities or existences are all belonging to objective existences , then I would like to aks you what the hell are all of them consists of respectively ?

    In physics , we use physical units to designate corresponding physical existences ,
    but there are no specific description about physical components making up all of these physical existences .
    To this regard, Is it the situation of physics at present ?

    Please confirm to the above.
     

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    <following comments are actually reply to another thread , posted here accidentally >
    Time (one dimensional time) is an objective existence , describing as a sort of physical quantity in physics.

    Time is crated from an fundamental physical process proceeded by Completable space time (CST) , like other basic physical quantities such as one dimensional space , substances ,energies the universe possessed.
    CST is consists of vacuum and information essetially and sum of CSTs ever created make up the universe as a whole.

    Every CST creates equivalent quantity of time which roughly equal to Planck time, precisely equal to Time Gauge or Gauged Time.

    Time has lots of physical properties and make people have feeing of past ,present, future , and continuation of all specific natural process proceeding.

    Time has property of accumulation, which indicates age of the universe evolving.
    Time will be terminated as CST cease its updateing process , in turn the universe come to end, that will take around 10^35 years (0.55*10^86 numbers of CSTs to be created in total)
     

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    Space Time Structure of Physical existences
    (part one)

    Space Time Configuration of Physical Units
    Every physical existence including those appointed by physical units have its own space time structure ( STS) inherently ,that is , all of them are consists of certain amounts of dimensional spaces and dimensional times ;
    Space time structure of an physcal existence appointed by a specific physical unit (dimA) can be universally expressed mathematically in a way so called space time configuration ,abbrviated by STC(dimA) .
    That is ,
    Given an certtain physical existence appointed by physical unit expressed by , then its space time configuration is
    STC(dimA)=Bm^a s^-b
    here ,
    B is larger or equal to |G|=6.674528 e-11 [(NIST2006 observed)
    a,b=-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5.
    m represents an unit of one dimensional space , s represents an unit of one dimensional time .

    For instance :
    STS of one unit of Mass : STC(kg)=|G|m^3s^-2

    STS of one unit of Energy : STC(J)=|G|m^5s^-4

    STS of one unit of Force : STC(N)=|G|m^4s^-4

    STS of one unit of Mometum : STC(p)=|G|m^4s^-3

    STS of one unit of Angular momentum : STC(j)=|G|m^5s^-3

    STS of one unit of Power : STC(W)=|G|m^5s^-5

    STS of one unit of Pressure : STC(P)=|G|m^4s^-4

    STS of one unit of Irradiance : STC(M)=|G|m^-3s^5

    STS of one unit of Vacuum : STC(Va)=|G|m^3

    STS of one unit of Electric intensity : STC(A)=√|G|m^3s^-3

    STS of one unit of Charge : STC(C)=√|G|m^3s^-2

    STS of one unit of Electric potential : STC(V)=√|G|m^2s^-2

    STS of one unit of Electric Field Strength : STC(E)=√|G|ms^-2

    STS of one unit of Magnetic flux : STC(Wb)=√|G|m^2s^-1

    STS of one unit of Magnetic moment : STC(Mm)=√|G|m^5s^-3

    STS of one unit of Mag. field strength : STC(H)=√|G|m^2s^-3

    STS of one unit of Mag. Inductance strength : STC(T)=√|G|s^-1

    STS of one unit of speed : STC(v)=ms^-1

    STS of one unit of Acceleration : STC(a)=ms^-2

    STS of one unit of Electric resistance : m^-1 s

    STS of one unit of Thermodynamic Temperature : STC(K)=22.7773m^4s^-4

    STS of one unit of Substance amount :STC(mol)=am^2s^-1
    here, a is fine structure constant.

    STS of one unit of one dimensional space : STC(L)=m

    STS of one unit of Two dimensional space : STC(S)=m^2

    STS of one unit of Three dimensional space : STC(V)=m^3

    STS of one unit of Four dimensional space : STC(L4)=m^4

    STS of one unit of Five dimensional space :STC(L5)=m^5

    STS of one unit of One dimensional time : STC(T)=s

    STS of one unit of Two dimensional time : STC(T2)=s^2

    STS of one unit of Three dimensional time : STC(T3)=s^3

    STS of one unit of Four dimensional time : STC(T4)=s^4

    STS of one unit of Five dimensional time : STC(T5)=s^5

    STS of one unit of Information : s^-2

    (to be continued)
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    Notice:
    Math.expression of STC(dimA)=Bm^as^-b has same meaning expressed by an image linked at
    http://www.sitmo.com/gg/latex/latex2png.2.php?z=100&eq=STC(dimA)%3DBm%5Eas%5E%7B-b%7D%20

    Math.expression of STC(kg)=|G|m^3s^-2 has same meaning expressed by an image linked at
    http://www.sitmo.com/gg/latex/latex2png.2.php?z=100&eq=STC(kg)%3D%7CG%7Cm%5E3s%5 E%7B-2%7D%20

    Math.expression of STC(J)=|G|m^5s^-4 has same meaning expressed by an image linked at
    http://www.sitmo.com/gg/latex/latex2png.2.php?z=100&eq=STC(J)%3D%7CG%7Cm%5E5s%5E %7B-4%7D%20

    Math.expression of STC(A)=√|G|m^3s^-3 has same meaning expressed by an image linked at
    http://www.sitmo.com/gg/latex/latex2png.2.php?z=100&eq=STC(A)%3D%5Csqrt%7B%7CG%7 C%7Dm%5E3s%5E%7B-3%7D%20

    Math.expression of STC(C)=√|G|m^3s^-2 has same meaning expressed by an image linked at
    http://www.sitmo.com/gg/latex/latex2png.2.php?z=100&eq=STC(C)%3D%5Csqrt%7B%7CG%7 C%7Dm%5E3s%5E%7B-2%7D%20%20

    Similar situation for other ones shown the above.
     

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    Interpretation to concept of STC of physical unit

    After having inverstigated all kinds of physical units in physics , the result is unanimously identical to definiton of STC for physical unit given above. This confirmed result reveal that physical existences appointed by all physical units are objectively consists of specific dimensions of spaces , specific dimensions of times and an unique cofficient .
    For instance
    1 kilogram of any sorts of substances is objectively consists of 3 dimensional space m^3 , negative 2 dimensional times s^-2 and an coefficient of |G| .
    that is , STC(kg)=|G|m^3s^-2

    1 Ampare of electric current is objectively consists of 3 dimensional space m^3 , negative 3 dimensional times s^-3 and an coefficient of √ |G| .
    That is , STC(A)=√|G|m^3s^-3

    1 Kelvin of temperature of heat is objectively consists of 4 dimensional space m^4 , negative 4 dimensional times s^-4 and an coefficient of 22.7773 .
    That is , STC(K)=22.7773m^4s^-4

    1 mol of substances quantities is objectively consists of 2 dimensional space m^2 , negative 1 dimensional times s^-1 and an coefficient of fine structure constant .
    That is , STC(mol)=am^2s^-1

    Some examples of STC for derived physical units :

    1 Joule of energy is objectively consists of 5 dimensional space m^5 , negative 4 dimensional times s^-4 and an coefficient of |G| .
    that is , STC(J)=|G|m^5s^-4

    1 Newton of force is objectively consists of 4 dimensional space m^4 , negative 4 dimensional times s^-4 and an coefficient of |G| .
    That is , STC(N)=|G|m^4s^-4

    1 Coulumb of chagre is objectively consists of 3 dimensional space m^3 , negative 2 dimensional times s^-2 and an coefficient of √|G| .
    That is , STC(C)=√|G|m^3s^-2

    1 Weber of magnetic flux is objectively consists of 2 dimensional space m^2 , negative 1 dimensional times s^-1 and an coefficient of √|G| .
    That is , STC(Wb)=√|G|m^2s^-1
     

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    Exceptional case of interpretation of STC

    Among all kinds of physical existences , only two out there do not comply with interpretation of STC presented above. They are vacuum unit and initial information unit .
    Vacuum unit represents one unit of physical existence with its STC as
    STC(Va)=|G|m^3
    http://www.sitmo.com/gg/latex/latex2png.2.php?z=100&eq=STC(V_a)%3D%7CG%7Cm%5E3
    Initial information unit represents one unit of an physical existence with its STC as
    s(0,-1)^-2
    http://www.sitmo.com/gg/latex/latex2...%7B-2%7D%20%20
    We can not simply view that one unit of vacuum is consists of 3 dimensional spaces and an coefficient of |G| , instead should consider |G|m^3 as an integrated space time structure inherently existed at very beginning of the universe , or is an Virgin Physical Existence of the Universe .
    So does initial information unit of s(0,-1)^-2

    I shalll expound how these two virgin physical existences originated formation of the unvierse , and how Completable Space Time (CST) matipulates physical process of evolution of the unvierse.
     

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    Okay, nobody seems to be interested in this thread and I can't really allow you to keep on bumping it just so you can make more updates. This is not a blog. I'm locking the thread. If anyone other than the OP would like for me to reopen it, they can PM me.
     

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