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    Warp Drive. Founding theory.


    A quantum field dynamic field theory of warp drive.


    The theory that it is possible to go faster than light, in respect that that light speed being exceeded is only a relative viewpoint, as thus also as a result can allow FTL travel without any temporal effects. For instance no travelling to the future when travelling near 0.99c.

    For starters allow me to present you with the basis of the theory. Occording to Einsteins theory of special relativity, nothing can exceed the speed of light, that being c in the form of 2.99792458x10^8m/sec/sec. That is proven to be true because as matter approaches the speed of light, its mass increases exponentially with parallel to the velocity. This is known in the equation m=m0y. Where y is the Lorentz factor.

    Now then. I postulate the idea that spacetime itself can be shrunk or extended to the length possible so that a spaceship or interplanetary device can cross larger gaps in spacetime, without occupying the spacetime, or allowing the spacetime that is being exteneded or constricted to influence it in the same way Einstein has explained before.

    For this idea to work. A interplanetary device, or IPD, needs to be able to cross constricted spacetime without succumbing to the influences of that constricted spacetime. For instance, if an object occupies spacetime that is warped. Then to an outside observor, any person or device entering that spacetime would also be warped in the same way. This is known by Einsteins famous statement that: "Mass grips spacetime telling it how to curve, Spacetime grips mass, telling it how to move". That being said means that if an IPD crosses constricted space, it will follow the laws of physics and adhere to the constriction also. If this occurs, then the relative speed of the IPD will remain constant, and no difference will change, and now FTL will occur.

    This presents the challenge that the IPD needs to be able to cross this constriction and expansion without interference from it, as in the IPD will not be constricted also. Seeing as the IPD is matter, or mass. The spacetime constricted will tell it how to move, and be shaped. This won't be a problem, if we deny the IPD to be classified as mass. To do this, the mass must be removed.

    Now if the mass is removed it will be possible to travel FTL anyway would it not? Well yes, but not without the temporal effects following (time travel). You see, because the IPD would be going FTL, then nothing would give to an outside observor, except time. However, with a warp drive, the spacetime itself would be giving, so there would be no reprocusions on time.

    The IPD is able to expand or constrict spacetime. The more or less it does this, will increase or decrease the speed of the IPD. Let's for arguments sake, call this speed, the warp factor. Every parsects of spacetime that is expanded or constricted, will exponentially increase by a factor of the equivalent light speed multiple due to the relative size of the spacetime.

    Let us move on to how the IPD first not only expands or contstricts spacetime, but how also it is able to not be affected by that constricting or expansion.

    1: The creation of the constriction and expansion of spacetime.

    According to Einstein, mass grips sapcetime, telling it how to curve. Seeing as spacetime is four dimensional, constricting spacetime will likely curve it also, as in the distance that from which it is constricted or expanded, to the area that is not. Seeing as matter is also the equivalent as energy, dictated by the equation E=mc^2. All that is needed is a sufficient amount of energy. Now seeing as there will be a vast amout of energy needed to create mass. There poses a problem to creating that much energy. This is to be devled into more in the related texts accompanying this journal.

    A specific amount of energy will expand or constrict the spacetime continuum to a required relative length so that the desired warp factor is attained. The more spacetime is constricted and expanded, then the faster the IPD will go, yet the more energy it will require.

    2: The maintenence of non-conformity to the influences of the expanded or constricted spacetime.

    The goal here is to maintain the size, and speed of the IPD relative to non-constricted and expanded spacetime outside the area of constirction and expansion. To do this will require a device that can resist and deny the laws of spacetime that will try to tell the IPD how big and how fast to go and be. This device, I will refer to as a 'warp bubble'. This 'bubble' acts as a sort of 'boat' to the IPD in which the IPD is not influenced by the constricted and expanded spacetime.

    Let us look at it this way. Spacetime that has been constricted and expanded is now trying to tell the IPD how to move. Now we need to protect the IPD from this temporary dictator. To do this, we need to remove the mass of the IPD. To do this we will need to control the flow and movement of the IPD's Higgs Bosons.To do this, the H bosons themselves can be used to create a negative field of mass, so that the mass of the IPD registers as 0 to the expanded or constricted spacetime. No mass, no dictated movement or shape. Thus, the IPD can maintain its shape, size and speed relative to the outside spacetime, yet at the same time move freeley over the constricted or expanded spacetime. This would allow outside observors to see the IPD moving at FTL and also for the IPD and its passengers to also move FTL. Both observors being able to notice no difference in temporal effects either.


    For detailed information on the creation and maintence of, a Higgs field, a warp field (bubble), Please refer to the journals described in the appendum of this journal.


    Key terms described in this journal:

    Higgs Field, aka Warp 'bubble':

    The field that manipulates Higgs Bosons to allow a device to maintain its position in spacetime, regular or irregular without changes to its own spacetime structure.

    Warp field:

    The field that is generated by the IPD to constrict or expand spacetime.

    Warp Factor:

    The velocity (or relative velocity) that the IPD can travel at that is in numbers of the speed of light. For instance, warp factor 1 is 1c. As in The speed of light. The greater warp factor, the faster the IPD goes. There is no less than 1 for less that 1 is not warp.

    (c) Stephen Willmer 2009 (Hm, if there is such a term. Might as well say some grain of sand on a beach on a planet somewhere in the universe... ^^)

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    I think you're describing this.

    And for Heaven's sake don't add copyright notices to your posts. It's A) Tacky and B) Redundant.


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    I came up with that myself without being aware of alcubierre. Also I suggest a feasible way of making this possible if the findings of Higg's research checks out. Oh and about the copyright, I'll do what I damn please with my own work thanks, regardless if you or anyone thinks its tachy (get it? tachy? ohhh I'm terrible).
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    Yes, it does sound a lot like the Alcubierre drive idea which is sorta what they were aiming for in Star Trek I think, though they never explained it very well in that show.
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    Sure they did. There was a bubble, and uh... it involved anti matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf
    Oh and about the copyright, I'll do what I damn please with my own work thanks, regardless if you or anyone thinks its tachy (get it? tachy? ohhh I'm terrible).
    Oh you're welcome to, it just demonstrates a complete ignorance of international copyright law. Which calls into question pretty much everything else you say. Hence "tacky".
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    Don't even get me started on how the teleporters work! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf
    Oh and about the copyright, I'll do what I damn please with my own work thanks, regardless if you or anyone thinks its tachy (get it? tachy? ohhh I'm terrible).
    I wouldn't worry about copyright, I think it's implied even on the internet. You're the owner of your own intellectual property in terms of the writing itself and publication on the internet secures that in a way. The idea is another matter, you can't copyright ideas, only patent them.

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    Sure they did. There was a bubble, and uh... it involved anti matter.
    :-D Yep. Nice n' vague. Has to be, I guess.
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    Ahhh, teleporters, their job is much easier now we use flat screens. No more 26" CRT's to lug up flights of stairs.
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    I bet you didn't know this. I watched a program once that a guy was inspired that a computer coud make music like in Star Trek TNG (The Next Generation) that he developed what we call quicktime. At least thats what I saw. Also the communicator idea became the mobile phone. I think we owe a lot to Star Trek. God bless you Gene Roddenberry!
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    If they could develop something like the medical tricorder I'd sure be happy. Would make my research a lot more fun!
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    Unfortunately, it looks like the Alcubierre drive is not possible after all:

    http://www.universetoday.com/2009/04...ble-after-all/
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    Its a good job I'm trying to explain quantum phenomena using geometry then ^_^. Besides, black holes hold a lot of promise. Maybe even if there is a limit to travelling in spacetime, spacetime itself has no known limit of speed. So I'll just work on that if this warp drive idea doesn't come through. Doesn't anyone think my idea of 'Higgs field' is logical in any way?
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    So, basically, you're saying that, if you could arrange things so that the space ship spends most of the trip inside of a gravitational field (pulling on it in the direction it's trying to go), then it could exceed the C limit?

    It's moving through the space time at C or lower, but since the space time itself is in motion, that adds to its total velocity.
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    It seems to me that the main problem with this theory is it appears that space time only warps at the speed of light.

    I mean..... a black hole can pull you toward it faster than C, in a sense, because it's moving the space you're in, instead of moving you through that space, but gravitational waves themselves only move at C.

    So, the warping effect itself, can only travel at the speed of light. You'd have to plan your trip in advance, and send the warping effects ahead of you so that you're arriving at them just as they appear.
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    I am not sure I understand the "Hawking Radiation" problem. How do they know this radiation will enter the warp bubble?

    Also, Wikipedia says Higgs Bosun has not yet been detected. Maybe CERN will detect one.

    It sounds like you are working on another revision of the Alcubierre drive.

    What I think is needed is some sort of a breakthrough, or direction that can generate some experimental data. Then the theories will evolve, and improve with the data.

    Right now drives that require the "mass of Jupiter" to be converted to energy have a long way to go. I think one of these "revisions" eventually will show us a way to warp space time without these massive energies.

    I don't think there is a speed limit on how fast the "warp" can move though.

    Good Luck
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    one major problem i see is that you cant remove your mass. doing so just removes you and the machine you are using. what you are suggesting is sending nothing faster than light. makes no sense.
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