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  1. #1 HIV positive women want to have children 
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    1/4 of women with HIV want to have children. Anyone want to discuss the ethics of this?

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    Though there are no guarantees of safely conceiving and delivering a healthy baby for women with HIV, the medical community has found ways to reduce health risks for both mother and child, said Michael Brady, professor and chair of pediatrics at Ohio State and a co-investigator on the study’s funding grant. Women who are HIV-positive should receive antiretroviral medications throughout their pregnancy and during labor, and their newborns should receive antiretroviral medication for the first six weeks of life. Delivery by Caesarean section also can reduce risk of transmission of the virus to the infant, but should be performed if required for the mother’s health or if the mother’s level of virus in the blood is high. With optimal care, the risk of transmission can be as low as 1 percent, Brady said.
    Tricky ethics, maybe. But since they're pointing out that it is, these days, much more manageable than it used to be - for both mother and child, I'm inclined to go with my laissez-faire style: "Woman's body, woman's choice."


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    we need a nazi like secret police squad to kill them all now..the ones willing to commit hiv attacks of course..lol
    We spend most of our lifes not knowing..
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    bro,you need help LOL
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    Well if those women can pay for all the costs they incur.. In a European welfare state society would have to pick up the bill, which I think would go too far.
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    Then again, the point of a welfare system is to provide medical care for those who need it to live a normal life.
    ...Wait, what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B1AZE
    we need a nazi like secret police squad to kill them all now..the ones willing to commit hiv attacks of course..lol
    haha good one xD or perhaps we could send them off to concentration camps :P
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    I think its selfish beyond belief. When you are a parent you are supposed to put the child first. Risking your child's health just so you can be a Mom is selfish. She wants to be a Mom? She can adopt an HIV+ baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orleander
    I think its selfish beyond belief. When you are a parent you are supposed to put the child first. Risking your child's health just so you can be a Mom is selfish. She wants to be a Mom? She can adopt an HIV+ baby.
    Wow that is so true haha I guess people with HIV just want an excuse to have pleasure
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  11. #10 But everyone has right to have a child 
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    So why should anyone get angry at poor people who, have same rights that healthy people to have a child.
    They should be helped and treated and given condoms and teached about how to get pregnant without cointaminating their offspring.
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  12. #11 She can have a baby under one condition. 
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    And that is that they remove one egg, that has not been affected with hiv/aids (if that is possible to check), in a testtube with spermie.
    And that someone else carry it.
    But they must ofcourse be 100% sure it has no trace of hiv/aids in that egg she donated.
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    And that is that they remove one egg, that has not been affected with hiv/aids (if that is possible to check), in a testtube with spermie.
    And that someone else carry it.
    But they must ofcourse be 100% sure it has no trace of hiv/aids in that egg she donated.
    Thats the only thing that seems even remotely reasonable.

    Otherwise its just totally barbaric for an HIV+ mom to want to endanger an inncoent baby's life because of her own whims. She wants kids, she can get some sort of "test-tube" baby made, becuase she'll get a one-way ticket to hell if she tries anything funny.

    Trifling with a child's life is just...........................I cant even say it. :x

    *sigh* sorry, i really got into it all of a sudden. if i hurt anyone's feelings, im very sorry. i realize for some people this might be a touch subject.......sorry.
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    Morals schmorals, them having children is selfish and everyone knows it.
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    Selfish - yes. Let's remember most females with HIV-AIDs got it from illicit iv drugs and high risk sex - so we shouldn't expect much in the way or ethics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge1907
    Selfish - yes. Let's remember most females with HIV-AIDs got it from illicit iv drugs and high risk sex - so we shouldn't expect much in the way or ethics.
    oh??? And where does THIS statement come from? what is the source for this?
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    word has it that your odds of contracting HIV/aids increases by two orders of magnitude with sharing needles and anal sex, compared to vaginal sex.
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