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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post

    I am asking the members of these group why doesn't the overwhelming majority of "moderate" muslims take over in the war against the "tiny" minority of terrorists that gives them a bad name. After all, at 1.6 billion strong, they shouldn't have any problem cleaning their own house.
    Didn't Saddam suppress terrorism with an Iron Fist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer w/Straw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post

    I am asking the members of these group why doesn't the overwhelming majority of "moderate" muslims take over in the war against the "tiny" minority of terrorists that gives them a bad name. After all, at 1.6 billion strong, they shouldn't have any problem cleaning their own house.
    Didn't Saddam suppress terrorism with an Iron Fist?

    I'm curios
    Not really, he was very good at exporting terrorism. Anyways, he's been dead for quite a while, so where is the action of moderate muslim world?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
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    Please stay on topic, the question is about the muslim majority taking action against the "minuscule" minority of muslim terrorists. Please do not try to change the discussion.
    Have you not been following the whole Uganda debacle? It's been everywhere.
    Please stay on topic, stop trying to divert the thread.
    You made a half-wrong statement, that Muslim countries punish gay people not Christian ones, and now that you've been proven wrong you aren't going to admit it? You shouldn't have said that Muslim countries and not Christian ones violate those human rights if you didn't want examples to the contrary brought up.

    Besides. You're the one who's deflecting. You are trying to say that Islam is worse than other religions, or at least its followers are. You are the one who inadvertently brought up other religions by implying Islam is worse than other religions. Some of your arguments on why Islam is worse are things that other religions are also guilty of, making your arguments fallacious.

    Unless I'm misunderstanding you and you are saying that other religions are just as bad, at which point I'll withdraw the argument.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    I am asking the members of these group why doesn't the overwhelming majority of "moderate" muslims take over in the war against the "tiny" minority of terrorists that gives them a bad name. After all, at 1.6 billion strong, they shouldn't have any problem cleaning their own house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark
    Please stay on topic, the question is about the muslim majority taking action against the "minuscule" minority of muslim terrorists. Please do not try to change the discussion.
    Like you are asking why don't they volunteer to be boots on the ground against ISIS? That's what I'd like to see too.
    Wonder why.....
    Thousands have swelled the ranks of ISIS how many have joined the opposition to ISIS? We don't seem to get told that figure.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SowZ37 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    Please stay on topic, the question is about the muslim majority taking action against the "minuscule" minority of muslim terrorists. Please do not try to change the discussion.
    Have you not been following the whole Uganda debacle? It's been everywhere.
    Please stay on topic, stop trying to divert the thread.
    You made a half-wrong statement, that Muslim countries punish gay people not Christian ones,
    You seem to have some grievances about being persecuted for being gay and Jewish. I sympathize with you and your plight but please open your own thread, stop hijacking this one with your personal problems.

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    Unless I'm misunderstanding you and you are saying that other religions are just as bad, at which point I'll withdraw the argument.
    Other religions are just as bad. Now go away.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    I am asking the members of these group why doesn't the overwhelming majority of "moderate" muslims take over in the war against the "tiny" minority of terrorists that gives them a bad name. After all, at 1.6 billion strong, they shouldn't have any problem cleaning their own house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark
    Please stay on topic, the question is about the muslim majority taking action against the "minuscule" minority of muslim terrorists. Please do not try to change the discussion.
    Like you are asking why don't they volunteer to be boots on the ground against ISIS? That's what I'd like to see too.
    Wonder why.....
    Thousands have swelled the ranks of ISIS how many have joined the opposition to ISIS? We don't seem to get told that figure.
    Yeah, it is a tiny, weeny minority, just about 80,000, highest estimate. Wonder why the overwhelming moderate majority is not doing anything against them.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    Please stay on topic, the question is about the muslim majority taking action against the "minuscule" minority of muslim terrorists. Please do not try to change the discussion.
    Have you not been following the whole Uganda debacle? It's been everywhere.
    Please stay on topic, stop trying to divert the thread.
    You made a half-wrong statement, that Muslim countries punish gay people not Christian ones,
    You seem to have some grievances about being persecuted for being gay and Jewish. I sympathize with you and your plight but please open your own thread, stop hijacking this one with your personal problems.

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    Unless I'm misunderstanding you and you are saying that other religions are just as bad, at which point I'll withdraw the argument.
    Other religions are just as bad. Now go away.
    Look mate, how about you stop being so rude and offensive?

    Because the only thing you appear to be interested in is completely disregarding all evidence that you are wrong in your racism and bigotry and only interested in continuing to perpetrate an offensive stereotype. You know full well that Muslim countries and Muslims have boots on the ground fighting against ISIS. Your own country is helping to arm them to do so. But they had been fighting against them from the moment they made their presence felt in the ME.

    If you are only interested in insulting Muslims on this forum and being racist and a bigot, there are other forums that may cater to your taste. It's not welcome here. We get it, you don't like Muslims and Islam. You have made that abundantly clear. But snide remarks that is tantamount to supporting genocide, absolute dishonesty and lies and this morbid fascination you seem to have with people's children being dismembered and stuffed into boxes needs to stop.
    Last edited by Tranquille; October 5th, 2014 at 10:42 PM.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
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    Yeah, it is a tiny, weeny minority, just about 80,000, highest estimate. Wonder why the overwhelming moderate majority is not doing anything against them.
    Did you add it up wrong?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    You know full well that Muslim countries and Muslims have boots on the ground fighting against ISIS.
    ISIS numbers about 80,000 fighters. How many muslim "boots on the ground"?
    How many muslims are fighting taliban, al quaida, al shahab, islamyia, hamas, bokum al haram, hezbollah? How come that these organizations have been thriving? How many talibs have been arrested in Pakistan?


    Your own country is helping to harm them to do so.
    Notwithstanding that the above is not coherent English, we are talking about the reaction of the muslim overwhelming majority to the "tiny" muslim terrorist minority, last I checked, US was not (yet) a muslim country. Try to stay on topic.

    But snide remarks that is tantamount to supporting genocide, absolute dishonesty and lies
    Nowhere did I advocate genocide, so the absolute dishonesty and the lying is yours. In case you have further misconceptions about the English language , "Wipe out ISIS" is not advocating genocide.


    But they had been fighting against them from the moment they made their presence felt in the ME.
    Truth shows the opposite, they started only recently, after a lot of prodding. And they are not very efficient at cleaning up, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    Yeah, it is a tiny, weeny minority, just about 80,000, highest estimate. Wonder why the overwhelming moderate majority is not doing anything against them.
    Did you add it up wrong?
    Nope, 50,000 in Syria, 30,000 in Iraq. A tiny number , compared to the respective populations. Yet....
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
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    Yeah, it is a tiny, weeny minority, just about 80,000, highest estimate. Wonder why the overwhelming moderate majority is not doing anything against them.
    Did you add it up wrong?
    Nope.
    Later you say their total fighting force equals 80,000. I initially thought you were saying the foreign fighters equaled 80,000.
    My misunderstanding.
     

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    ive heard isis is created by israel


    time.com/3445394/netanyahu-un-general-assembly-hamas-abbas/


    Netanyahu Tells World Leaders ‘Hamas is ISIS and ISIS is Hamas’




    and ive heard israel created hamas years ago

    i dont trust israel at all anymore-totally corrupt except i do like a modern country as they are
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHolmes View Post
    ive heard isis is created by israel

    So is bokum al haram over in Nigeria and Islamyia in Indonesia
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHolmes View Post
    ive heard isis is created by israel
    Did you think that was right? Did you question it?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SHolmes View Post
    ive heard isis is created by israel
    Did you think that was right? Did you question it?
    I was mocking.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    Yeah, it is a tiny, weeny minority, just about 80,000, highest estimate. Wonder why the overwhelming moderate majority is not doing anything against them.
    Did you add it up wrong?
    Nope.
    Later you say their total fighting force equals 80,000. I initially thought you were saying the foreign fighters equaled 80,000.
    My misunderstanding.
    By comparison, Iraqi army is 400,000+400,000 reserves. Syrian army is 200,000+200,00. Lebanese army is 130,000+280,000. Turkish army is another 660,000 . Go figure.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHolmes View Post
    ive heard isis is created by israeltime.com/3445394/netanyahu-un-general-assembly-hamas-abbas/
    Yes, ISIS is created by an internet link.

    i dont trust israel at all anymore-totally corrupt except i do like a modern country as they are
    Yes, all the ills in the region come from Israel.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post

    ISIS numbers about 80,000 fighters. How many muslim "boots on the ground"?
    The CIA puts has estimated that it is between 20,000 and 31,500 or so. Much less than your 80,000 figure which comes from where?

    And over 40,000 Kurds alone, not to mention around 200,000 Indian Muslims who have signed up to fight against them. Then we look at the Iranians who have had boots on the ground fighting against ISIS in Syria and Iraq for a while now, before the West even realised how dangerous they are. So your point would be what exactly?

    How many muslims are fighting taliban, al quaida, al shahab, islamyia, hamas, bokum al haram, hezbollah? How come that these organizations have been thriving? How many talibs have been arrested in Pakistan?
    I don't know, how many?

    Considering the victims of these organisations are Muslims and it is Muslims who are fighting against them, I'm surprised your whining.

    Notwithstanding that the above is not coherent English, we are talking about the reaction of the muslim overwhelming majority to the "tiny" muslim terrorist minority, last I checked, US was not (yet) a muslim country. Try to stay on topic.
    Your absolute paranoia aside, it was clear it was a typo. Which I corrected. "Arm".. The reaction of Muslims against ISIS is far better than any other State, combined. Over 200,000 volunteers begging to be allowed to go and fight against them in one country alone should put the rest of the world to shame.

    Best keep digging that shelter in the backyard. They are coming for your gold and women.



    Truth shows the opposite, they started only recently, after a lot of prodding. And they are not very efficient at cleaning up, either.
    Actually no. The moment they invaded Iraq, Iran was helping to arm, train and support Iraqi soldiers to help fight against them. They had troops on the ground before the rest of the world even had time to react.

    Not to mention the Iraqi soldiers, and the Kurds and Kurdish volunteers who were fighting against them right from the start.

    But don't let the truth and reality stop the flow of bigotry, racism and hatred stemming from you.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post

    ISIS numbers about 80,000 fighters. How many muslim "boots on the ground"?
    The CIA puts has estimated that it is between 20,000 and 31,500 or so. Much less than your 80,000 figure which comes from where?
    Learn how to click on links. You realize that by taking the lower number this only makes my point STRONGER, do you?


    How many muslims are fighting taliban, al quaida, al shahab, islamyia, hamas, bokum al haram, hezbollah? How come that these organizations have been thriving? How many talibs have been arrested in Pakistan?
    I don't know, how many?

    Considering the victims of these organisations are Muslims and it is Muslims who are fighting against them, I'm surprised your whining.
    There is no whining, there was just a question (that you did not answer). Besides, the victims of hamas, hezbollah, islamyia are certainly not muslims, so you compound your ignorance with outright lying.



    Notwithstanding that the above is not coherent English, we are talking about the reaction of the muslim overwhelming majority to the "tiny" muslim terrorist minority, last I checked, US was not (yet) a muslim country. Try to stay on topic.

    Best keep digging that shelter in the backyard. They are coming for your gold and women.
    You have made this incoherent non-sequitur before. This is the second time.
    Last edited by Howard Roark; October 5th, 2014 at 11:53 PM.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    not to mention around 200,000 Indian Muslims who have signed up to fight against them.
    You have serious English comprehension problems, the article says something very different:

    "Leaders at the Karbala Mosque in New Delhi said 200,000 people across India – including Sunni Muslims, Christians and Hindus – had registered their interest to volunteer in Iraq since June."

    See the "including"? See Christians and Hindus"? See the exact title?
    200,000 Indians volunteer to join effort against Islamic State militants in Iraq, mosque says
    Not "Indian muslims", "Indians"


    Or is it that you have difficulties telling the truth?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    Iran is calling your BS. From the article: "Senior Iranian officials have denied that any Revolutionary Guard fighters or commanders are inside Iraq."

    The very articles you cite, contradict you. Not very good.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    Learn how to click on links. You realize that by taking the lower number this only makes my point STRONGER, do you?
    One of the providers of the figures you provided on Wikipedia is the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights:

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) founded in May 2006 is an information office opposed to the Government of Syria. Rami Abdulrahman's UK based SOHR has been cited by virtually every western news outlet since the beginning of the uprising.[1][2] After the start of coalition airstrikes against ISIL/ISIS in September 2014 SOHR is frequently quoted by major newsmedia, such as Voice of America, Reuters, BBC, CNN and National Public Radio about daily numbers of ISIL/ISIS fighters and civilians killed in airstrikes in Syria.
    The United Kingdom-based SOHR is run out of a two-bedroom terraced home in Coventry by one person, Rami Abdulrahman,[3] a Syrian Sunni Muslim who also runs a clothes shop.

    After three spells in prison in Syria, Abdulrahman came to Britain in 2000 fearing a longer, fourth jail term.[1] New York Times[3] in April 2013 describes him being on the phone all day every day with contacts in Syria, and checking all information himself. Born Osama Suleiman, he adopted a pseudonym during his years of activism in Syria, and has used it publicly ever since.[3] Mr. Abdulrahman's website is at syriahr.com and syriahr.net (in Arabic) and syriahr.com/en (in English).
    In a December 2011 interview with Reuters,[1] Abdulrahman said the observatory has a network of 200 people and that six of his sources had been killed. Abdulrahman reports on events in the Syrian uprising, including the deaths of civilians, rebels and army defectors (which he calls "martyrs")[4] and government soldiers.[5]

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    SOHR has been accused of selective reporting, covering only violent acts of the government forces against the opposition for the first two years of its existence. Although critics concede that its reports have become less partisan, critics interviewed by AsiaNews charge that as of 2013 SOHR "continues to defend Islamic extremists to avoid losing support among rebel forces".[9]
    SOHR's methodology for counting civilian victims has been questioned by Patrick Henningsen on Russia Today[10] as the organisation includes opposition combatants among the number of civilian casualties, as long as these are not former members of the military.
    I mean I get how a guy who runs a clothes shop in the UK would know more than the CIA.

    Perhaps you could start taking your own advice about clicking on links?


    There is no whining, there was just a question (that you did not answer). Besides, the victims of hamas, hezbollah, islamyia are certainly not muslims, so you compound your ignorance with outright lying.
    They kill more Muslims than any other group. I find it amusing that when you clearly cannot back up your bigotry against ISIS and Muslims fighting against them, you switch to other groups like Hamas. Hamas kill more Muslims in the Gaza strip than anyone else. The Hezbollah have killed more Muslims in the Syrian conflict alone, in their support of Assad to show how clearly out of touch you are with reality. Or are you going to deny that their victims are Muslims?

    You have made this incoherent non-sequitur before. This is the second time.
    Sorry, I tend to be highly amused by rampant paranoia.

    You have serious English comprehension problems, the article says something very different:

    "Leaders at the Karbala Mosque in New Delhi said 200,000 people across India including Sunni Muslims, Christians and Hindus had registered their interest to volunteer in Iraq since June."

    See the "including"? See Christians and Hindus"? See the exact title?
    200,000 Indians volunteer to join effort against Islamic State militants in Iraq, mosque says
    Not "Indian muslims", "Indians"
    My mistake.

    The number of Muslims who volunteered to go to fight against them from India is actually just over 100,000.

    Some 30,000 Indian Shia Muslims have submitted their passports and are ready to travel to Iraq to defend Shiite holy shrines from the advancing Sunni Islamist insurgents by any means available.
    According to recruiters a further 100,000 have pledged support for the cause and are also willing to travel and defend their faith.
    Iran is calling your BS. From the article: "Senior Iranian officials have denied that any Revolutionary Guard fighters or commanders are inside Iraq."
    The very articles you cite, contradict you. Not very good.
    Why didn't you quote the rest of the passage?

    From the Guardian link:

    Iran has sent 2,000 advance troops to Iraq in the past 48 hours to help tackle a jihadist insurgency, a senior Iraqi official has told the Guardian.
    The confirmation comes as the Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, said Iran was ready to support Iraq from the mortal threat fast spreading through the country, while the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, called on citizens to take up arms in their country's defence.
    Addressing the country on Saturday, Maliki said rebels from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis) had given "an incentive to the army and to Iraqis to act bravely". His call to arms came after reports surfaced that hundreds of young men were flocking to volunteer centres across Baghdad to join the fight against Isis.
    In Iran, Rouhani raised the prospect of Teheran cooperating with its old enemy Washington to defeat the Sunni insurgent group which is attempting to ignite a sectarian war beyond Iraq's borders.
    The Iraqi official said 1,500 basiji forces had crossed the border into the town of Khanaqin, in Diyala province, in central Iraq on Friday, while another 500 had entered the Badra Jassan area in Wasat province overnight. The Guardian confirmed on Friday that Major General Qassem Suleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' elite Quds Force, had arrived in Baghdad to oversee the defence of the capital.
    Backed up by Reuters as well.

    Their soldiers dying there, fighting against ISIS shows that they are there.

    In fact, Muslims factor greatly in the opposition forces fighting against ISIS.

    I know, it's raining on your hate the Muslims thing you have going here. As I noted earlier, there are many forums that feed of the hatred you have. Breivik listed quite a few of them in his manifesto before he went out and shot up dozens of children to prove just how much he hated Muslims. You should look some of them up. You'd be right at home there.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
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    Learn how to click on links. You realize that by taking the lower number this only makes my point STRONGER, do you?
    One of the providers of the figures you provided on Wikipedia is the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights:

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) founded in May 2006 is an information office opposed to the Government of Syria. Rami Abdulrahman's UK based SOHR has been cited by virtually every western news outlet since the beginning of the uprising.[1][2] After the start of coalition airstrikes against ISIL/ISIS in September 2014 SOHR is frequently quoted by major newsmedia, such as Voice of America, Reuters, BBC, CNN and National Public Radio about daily numbers of ISIL/ISIS fighters and civilians killed in airstrikes in Syria.
    The United Kingdom-based SOHR is run out of a two-bedroom terraced home in Coventry by one person, Rami Abdulrahman,[3] a Syrian Sunni Muslim who also runs a clothes shop.

    After three spells in prison in Syria, Abdulrahman came to Britain in 2000 fearing a longer, fourth jail term.[1] New York Times[3] in April 2013 describes him being on the phone all day every day with contacts in Syria, and checking all information himself. Born Osama Suleiman, he adopted a pseudonym during his years of activism in Syria, and has used it publicly ever since.[3] Mr. Abdulrahman's website is at syriahr.com and syriahr.net (in Arabic) and syriahr.com/en (in English).
    In a December 2011 interview with Reuters,[1] Abdulrahman said the observatory has a network of 200 people and that six of his sources had been killed. Abdulrahman reports on events in the Syrian uprising, including the deaths of civilians, rebels and army defectors (which he calls "martyrs")[4] and government soldiers.[5]

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    SOHR has been accused of selective reporting, covering only violent acts of the government forces against the opposition for the first two years of its existence. Although critics concede that its reports have become less partisan, critics interviewed by AsiaNews charge that as of 2013 SOHR "continues to defend Islamic extremists to avoid losing support among rebel forces".[9]
    SOHR's methodology for counting civilian victims has been questioned by Patrick Henningsen on Russia Today[10] as the organisation includes opposition combatants among the number of civilian casualties, as long as these are not former members of the military.
    I mean I get how a guy who runs a clothes shop in the UK would know more than the CIA.

    Perhaps you could start taking your own advice about clicking on links?
    You don't get it, do you, by taking the LARGER number my case becomes even STRONGER. If we take the smaller number then ISIS is an even smaller organization, so it makes the "moderate" majority look even WORSE. Logic is not your forte.

    There is no whining, there was just a question (that you did not answer). Besides, the victims of hamas, hezbollah, islamyia are certainly not muslims, so you compound your ignorance with outright lying.
    They kill more Muslims than any other group.
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    Nope, they kill Jews and Christians. That is their charter, we have been over this subject in a different thread. You need to stop using lies as arguments, makes you look foolish.



    I find it amusing that when you clearly cannot back up your bigotry against ISIS and Muslims fighting against them, you switch to other groups like Hamas.
    You need to lay off your delusions about my so-called "bigotry". I am including ALL the terrorist groups, not only ISIS. And there are a lot of muslim terrorist groups, so deal with the reality.



    Hamas kill more Muslims in the Gaza strip than anyone else. The Hezbollah have killed more Muslims in the Syrian conflict alone, in their support of Assad to show how clearly out of touch you are with reality. Or are you going to deny that their victims are Muslims?
    They kill both. But their declared charter is "wiping off the Jews". We have been over this in another thread, you need to remember the historical lesson I provided you with.


    You have made this incoherent non-sequitur before. This is the second time.
    Sorry, I tend to be highly amused by rampant paranoia.
    And I am amused by your persistent delusion about my paranoia.

    You have serious English comprehension problems, the article says something very different:

    "Leaders at the Karbala Mosque in New Delhi said 200,000 people across India – including Sunni Muslims, Christians and Hindus – had registered their interest to volunteer in Iraq since June."

    See the "including"? See Christians and Hindus"? See the exact title?
    200,000 Indians volunteer to join effort against Islamic State militants in Iraq, mosque says
    Not "Indian muslims", "Indians"
    My mistake.
    Nice to see that you can own to your mistakes when your nose is rubbed into them.


    The number of Muslims who volunteered to go to fight against them from India is actually just over 100,000.

    Some 30,000 Indian Shia Muslims have submitted their passports and are ready to travel to Iraq to defend Shiite holy shrines from the advancing Sunni Islamist insurgents by any means available.
    According to recruiters a further 100,000 have pledged support for the cause and are also willing to travel and defend their faith.
    How many have actually travelled to Iraq? How many are actually fighting? Propaganda is worthless.

    Iran is calling your BS. From the article: "Senior Iranian officials have denied that any Revolutionary Guard fighters or commanders are inside Iraq."
    The very articles you cite, contradict you. Not very good.
    Why didn't you quote the rest of the passage?
    Because it is irrelevant, Iran denies any presence.

    From the Guardian link:



    I know, it's raining on your hate the Muslims thing you have going here.
    You need to lay off your delusions about my "hating" the muslims. You sound like a broken record.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille View Post
    ..... Hamas kill more Muslims in the Gaza strip than anyone else ......
    Are these the ones they suspect of helping the opposition and without trial summarily execute?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    You need to lay off your delusions about my "hating" the muslims. You sound like a broken record.
    Whereas you just sound like a bigoted arsehole. Why don't you take your hate speech and shove it where the sun don't shine?
    Last edited by John Galt; October 6th, 2014 at 02:32 AM. Reason: To save you the trouble, I've already reported the ad hominem and recommended a suspension. Now go **** yourself.
     

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    clearly tempers are coming quite close to boiling point - time to let things cool off
    thread closed
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