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  1. #1 Is this what's wrong with the world? 
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    The People's Climate March hopes to be the largest rally ever for climate change and global warming and will probably attract a hundred thousand people. Two hundred thousand? Meanwhile Oktoberfest has kicked off in Munich and many other cities around the world, including Cincinnati. More than six and half million are sure to attend. The attendees of the protest are urged to bring noisemakers as there will be no celebrity speakers, bands or meetings. Those attending Oktoberfest need no such instructions.


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    Is there a disconnect between the title of your thread and its content? Is that what you meant to have as a title?


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    I don't see a disconnect.

    He's saying millions will show up to get drunk and pretend to like polka, but rallying people behind a cause that actually affects the world in a significant way is not only more difficult, but attracts a paltry number of people compared to frivolity.
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    Thanks. I am getting a bit slow on the uptake these days!
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    Maybe The People's Climate March needs some marching polka bands and a few beer tents along their route?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan hunter View Post
    Maybe The People's Climate March needs some marching polka bands and a few beer tents along their route?
    Joking aside, if environmental activists want people to get more involved in their events, it's time to take on a more positive and proactive attitude. Enough with the marches and protests. The events have to be fun and informative. The last time I went to an event about environmental responsibility, they were taking signatures to go after pro-coal legislation and handing out buttons with a picture of Earth choking on black smoke. Whee.
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    Jesus said "Go to where the sinners are". Perhaps a climate information/beer tent at a gun show?
    Or, solar powered Tilt-a-Whirls?
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    They should change the name. It sounds like some sort of Communist event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    They should change the name. It sounds like some sort of Communist event.
    Well isn't it? Isn't it organized by the Chinese government? (I assumed it might be "involved" )

    Is my irony detector set too low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    They should change the name. It sounds like some sort of Communist event.
    Well isn't it? Isn't it organized by the Chinese government? (I assumed it might be "involved" )

    Is my irony detector set too low?
    No, it's not organized by the Chinese government.
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    You are right then . It does sound Moaesque.
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    I got this picture of some of them in the parade.

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    So what exactly will be accomplished at this climate rally? A bunch of people talking about stuff? or they actually going to do something useful, like pick up trash? Sorry if I sound cynical, but in my opinion events like this serve one purpose....to make the attendees feel good about themselves...and don't really accomplish much.



    However at Oktoberfest you get this:



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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    The People's Climate March hopes to be the largest rally ever for climate change and global warming and will probably attract a hundred thousand people. Two hundred thousand? Meanwhile Oktoberfest has kicked off in Munich and many other cities around the world, including Cincinnati. More than six and half million are sure to attend. The attendees of the protest are urged to bring noisemakers as there will be no celebrity speakers, bands or meetings. Those attending Oktoberfest need no such instructions.
    It would appear that the estimated number in attendance was 310,000 or more in New York alone.

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    The OP is also comparing apples to oranges. The PCM is a one day event. Oktoberfest is 16 days...obviously there will be greater numbers at an event 16x longer. Oktoberfest is also a tradition that's more than 100 years old. PCM is a first time event and has no tradition. Oktoberfest is fun....PCM is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    ..... Oktoberfest is fun....PCM is not.
    Without beer tents and polka bands how could anybody expect it to be fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 甘肃人 View Post
    The attendees of the protest are urged to bring noisemakers as there will be no celebrity speakers, bands or meetings. Those attending Oktoberfest need no such instructions.
    You know how you encourage speakers to come to an event? Beer and lodging. If they know they can give their presentation while drinking a good beer and that they have a comfy place to stay, they are generally more motivated. Most of the researchers (paleontologists) that give presentations for the organization that I work for cite the beer from the local microbrewery as major incentive to come. But hey, maybe that's a paleo thing. Maybe climatologists are wine drinkers?

    Also, I agree with MacGyver that Oktoberfest wins in a landslide and that comparing the two events is a false analogy. Regardless the PCM is (hopefully) raising awareness to climate change and pissing off the deniers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    So what exactly will be accomplished at this climate rally? A bunch of people talking about stuff? or they actually going to do something useful, like pick up trash? Sorry if I sound cynical, but in my opinion events like this serve one purpose....to make the attendees feel good about themselves...and don't really accomplish much.
    You could say the same about the UN event in the UN building that they are picketing.
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    What's wrong with Oktoberfest? I like Oktoberfest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClarenceF1 View Post
    What's wrong with Oktoberfest? I like Oktoberfest.
    Nothing at all. It was just used as an example of the misalignment of priorities among the populace.

    The climate rally in New York was pretty inspiring though. I wish I could have been there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falconer360 View Post
    Regardless the PCM is (hopefully) raising awareness to climate change and pissing off the deniers.
    This isn't directed at Falcon, and maybe I'm being cynical again....but in the "Dictionary of Mac" "raising awareness" means "We aren't really doing anything to solve the problem..we just want to feel like we are." With a topic as generalized as climate change, something that encompasses so many different things...what exactly are they trying to raise awareness of?


    Bubba: Hey Vern! Thars a shitload of hippies walking down the street carrying signs.

    Vern: So what are they on about?

    Bubba: Well I done saw a chick with dreadlocks and armpit hair with a sign that said somethin' about "climate change"

    Vern: Climate change?...I ain't never heard of that.

    Bubba: Me neither....I hope to hell that shit don't effect deer season...I already done got my blinds set up.

    Vern: Me too....hey look there....there's a skinny ass twig boy with a sign that says somethin' about "reducing your carbon footprint"

    Bubba: What the hail is a carbon foot print?

    Vern: Beats me....maybe it's somethin' about not walking through a campfire.

    Bubba: What kinda fool walks through a campfire?

    Vern: I don't know Bubba...I don't know...but I guess they think it's important.

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    @MacGyver1968 - Everything you have said in this thread may be more or less true, and it has certainly been both amusing and cynical, as you meant it to be, but what you may be unaware of, because you never have referred to it, is that the UN Climate Change Summit is taking place in NYC (at the UN Bldg, no less) and even the American president has made a speech.

    So as I said earlier, all your comedy could just as easly be directed at the UN delegates and speakers. Blah, blah blabbity blah. They talk and talk, yet nothing is done. Even the bits of Obama's speech the media sound-byted out to proles such as I, can be seen as no more than whining about how climate change has affected his (our) country (which is largely responsible for the problem in the first place), and that something ought to be done, by gum! -but what!? One point the 'ringleader' of the street protests has made is that world governments have still essentially done nothing. As is widely known the Kyoto Protocol was derailed by the United States' refusal to participate.

    Global warming and climate change are not myths. Only the most ultra-republican, head-in-the-sand pro-industrialists still deny the situation, and here we are just joking about it. Can anyone tell me if this latest UN Summit has or will achieve anything productive?
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    I do not know what the answer is. I recycle everything I can. I walk as much as possible. I listen to the sound bites of the Ecofascists with horror. These people would have us transported back to the dark ages, but thankfully they cannot.
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