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    I watch a lot of the new's on TV but did I miss it? I just became aware-via Yahoo News of our new Orion spacecraft. I would have thought there would have been ongoing coverage on the project but actually the thing is ready for a test flight soon minus people. It sounds like most of the support systems like launch and recovery facilities are mostly complete.

    Even on the test flight I think they said Orion will go seven times further out than the space station. It will be able to stay out for months and has a much larger crew area than the shuttle. It will be the craft to take us to Mars and other solar system destinations.

    It was the same with the new Trade Center building. Hardly a word until the final day when they mounted the antenna. If I was running things I'd have even just a thirty second bit every day on the progress of such news stories. If money goes where the interest is it's a sad comment on our people. What's more important apparently is Lindsay Lohan and Oprah.


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    You really think something this small is going to be able to go to mars and back taking 2 years? This type of container doesn't have much in the way of food, exercise or ways to stop radioactivity from entering this capsule. To be cramped into this kind of thing wouldn't be prudent at all to send anyone anywhere.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    You really think something this small is going to be able to go to mars and back taking 2 years?
    It's not intended to.
    The Mars vehicle will be Stage II - which [R]equires the development of additional assets, including an updated CEV capable of extended missions of many months in interplanetary space.
    On the other hand, with regard to being "cramped": The Orion Crew Module will weigh about 9.8 tons (8.9 tonnes), greater than the equivalent Apollo Command Module at 6.4 tons (5.8 tonnes). With a diameter of 16.5 feet (5 metres) as opposed to 12.8 feet (3.9 metres), it will provide 2.5 times greater volume. (Same link).
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    Quote Originally Posted by deric View Post
    It was the same with the new Trade Center building. Hardly a word until the final day when they mounted the antenna. If I was running things I'd have even just a thirty second bit every day on the progress of such news stories. If money goes where the interest is it's a sad comment on our people.
    Sad that networks give people what they want to see?

    We live in a society where information is free. I've been following the Orion and the (sadly cancelled) Ares series for about a decade now.
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    Heaven forbid we give NASA any genuine press. That might spark public interest and we'll be forced to cut our new order of 3,000 tanks so we can fund space science nonsense.
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    How does it land on mars? If it does how will it take off? This is a waste of time to go to mars but would be useful as a ISS workhorse hauling people up there.
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    As a geologist, I have to argue against the idea that it is "useless to go to Mars".
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    How does it land on mars?
    A Mars lander will detach and land.
    If it does how will it take off?
    The ascent/return stage will then take off.
    This is a waste of time to go to mars but would be useful as a ISS workhorse hauling people up there.
    A Mars landing is a lot more useful than a Moon landing (which we've already done.)
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    As I was commenting on the shallowness of much of society I watch mostly the 5 o'clock CBS news where we get what much of mainstream society wants-gore and disaster and emotional content whether it's real of fabricated and in addition often inaccurate and incomplete information.
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    Good luck to NASA and Lockheed Martin on the test flight.

    I still feel that SpaceX's Dragon will beat them in putting humans back into orbit from U.S. soil, though.
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    It doesn't help NASA has the worse PR team ever with a good number of their scientific and engineers completely oblivious to the fact that their PR is as important as their STEM achievements--even when it interferes with research.

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    "A Mars landing is a lot more useful than a Moon landing (which we've already done.)" In terms of PR they'll probably rate about the same. In what other ways?
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    i really like the Orion project, the return to a simpler proven technology.

    I still feel that SpaceX's Dragon will beat them in putting humans back into orbit from U.S. soil, though
    while Orion will deliver people to the ISS, i believe its main function is to go back to deeper space, not just LEO. to the Moon and then to an asteroid or Mars.

    NASA is hoping that the commercial efforts will be able to handle the more ordinary functions, ISS and LEO functions, so NASA can aim towards other solar system bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    "A Mars landing is a lot more useful than a Moon landing (which we've already done.)" In terms of PR they'll probably rate about the same. In what other ways?
    Science. Exploring a planet that was once much like ours will teach us more than exploring the Moon.
    Expansion of humanity. A lot easier to live on a planet with water and an atmosphere (admittedly much thinner than ours) with a 24ish hour day than the Moon.
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