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    There are two major forms of modern warfare. War in first world Nations and war in Third and Second world Nations.
    In war in first world nations the key is control of anti air and air technology. Whoever rules the skies rules the war. Enemy troops cannot easily mobilize, scout, or commit bombing raids without air advantage.
    In second/third world warfare the key rests in possessing the key supplies. When fighting in dessert countries, those who control the water, control the war. in any poor nation the victor will be the one who controls the key supplies.


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    Is it realistic to believe that war still exist amongst 1st world nations except by proxy? It just seems to me that most modern war is about either non 1st world nations fighting each other or a 1st world nation fighting a non 1st world nation. Really since the time of the Korean war, when the UN armies fought against the Chinese, and even then it's debatable whether at the time Chinese were really a first world nation. Even if we look at the Falklands war, that was a small scale limited engagement and was dominated by troop on troop action supported by naval and airpower.

    But I suppose the point I'm trying to get at is there really doesn't seem any modern military forces going head to head with other modern forces on equal terms anymore.


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    I'm not entirely sure where you get your ideas from, but:
    When was the last 1st world war?
    And could you tell us why you think all 2nd and 3rd world countries are dominated by desert?

    As for "whoever rules the skies rules war" it may be true that air power helps considerably with fights on the ground, but air power doesn't win wars.
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    ...When fighting in dessert countries...
    I spent a tour in Icecreamlandistan. It was hell...I gained 20 pounds. There, it was all about who controlled the sprinkles. Control the sprinkles, and you control the battlefield.
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    Of all the species of animals, only Humans are smart enough to wage "war". Curious, when considering many species have survived on this Earth much, much, longer than Humans.

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    Actually not. Countless animal species fight each other for territory.
    Fixin' shit that ain't broke.
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    Ants do it.
    Chimps conduct organised raids on other groups of chimps...
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    war is war there are no types of war. bloody war....
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    Of course there are types of war. Each of which is conducted in a different way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Of course there are types of war. Each of which is conducted in a different way.
    why to classify something not worthy of classification

    how many types are of Peace.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by precious View Post
    why to classify something not worthy of classification
    Not worthy of classification is an opinion many don't share.
    But, if you'd read my post the answer to your question would have been apparent:
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    Each of which is conducted in a different way.
    how many types are of Peace.?
    False comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Not worthy of classification is an opinion many don't share
    assumption

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    False comparison.
    are you paid by pentagon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by precious View Post
    assumption
    Fact. Otherwise why is there such an industry attached the study of war?
    Why are there reams of books written about different types of warfare?

    are you paid by pentagon?
    The Pentagon, AFAIK, doesn't pay non-Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    assumption
    Fact. Otherwise why is there such an industry attached the study of war?
    Why are there reams of books written about different types of warfare?
    Because everybody wants peace.

    Let's be at peace. stop your war with me and this thread. thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by precious View Post
    because everybody want peace.
    Now that's an assumption.
    And even it were true it doesn't invalidate my claim that not all people consider war to be not worthy of classification - doesn't even come close to doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    my claim that not all people consider war to be not worthy of classification
    your claim is right. why only classify we should take part in war.

    we all should take part in at least on big war and kill at least one human being.
    now i am on your side.
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    Or we could all just take up trolling, like you have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by precious View Post

    how many types are of Peace.?
    That is an interesting question. There are different conditions under which peace exists, and there are different strategies for maintaining it. I don't know if it has been formally classified like war has. I think there may be an opportunity to do so. The UN may have some material on that.
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    Natural resources are also a major factor in both types of war. Look at the Nile river, you could cripple 1/3 of the countries in Africa by redirecting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hyde View Post
    There are two major forms of modern warfare. War in first world Nations and war in Third and Second world Nations.
    In war in first world nations the key is control of anti air and air technology. Whoever rules the skies rules the war. Enemy troops cannot easily mobilize, scout, or commit bombing raids without air advantage.
    In second/third world warfare the key rests in possessing the key supplies. When fighting in dessert countries, those who control the water, control the war. in any poor nation the victor will be the one who controls the key supplies.

    The war that you see isn't the true war.... The true war is conducted in secrecy, and then the media is used to propel those actions and then full on war inevitable.... The rich will always get what they want regardless of the cost.... What you see as war is just the population control part of war, and is just one edge of the sword in which people are stripped of their families, life, and land >>>>reality blows huh<<<<

    Wars are carefully planned out behind closed doors well before the fighting.... This is how they get what they want or need....
    (warthog) an ugly little animal in Africa that is hunted, killed and eaten by lions.

    Sorry i'm no scientist so don't expect me to use those terms which scientist use
    to explain things.... I am only an observer of things....

    Every dream i've dreamed isn't the life I live in....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    Actually not. Countless animal species fight each other for territory.
    Come now, you know damn well what I mean! But then again, perhaps one could call them "at war", but surely it's not the same thing. jocular
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Natural resources are also a major factor in both types of war. Look at the Nile river, you could cripple 1/3 of the countries in Africa by redirecting it.
    Apparently that has not been done, because 1/3 of the countries in Africa are already crippled, no? jocular
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    Quote Originally Posted by jocular View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    Actually not. Countless animal species fight each other for territory.
    Come now, you know damn well what I mean! But then again, perhaps one could call them "at war", but surely it's not the same thing. jocular
    It is the same and Dy's example of chimp raids and ants works well.
    I think what you were aiming for was that we're technologically capable of doing great damage due to our wars. We are able to take it to a whole new level, not just physically, but mentally.
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