Thread: There will be no more Wars. Let this be the end to it.

Bring your Warriors home Mr. Obama. Let the World know that you and the United States of America are done with it. If Nations like Syria and Libya and Iran and the Phillipines, or any of the Central African Nations have a notion of conflict, then let them get on with it. But count us out.

Go on and Kill your bloody selves.

But do not think for a moment that we will come a'running, cause we bloody well wont.

Just something you should remember. Attack our friends or our Mainland, Attack our Embassies, assassinate our Diplomates--we will not come after you.

We will patiently establish guilt, and, with our Submarines, at our own good time, we will nuke your Nation off the face of this Planet.

Don't believe this. Well try it on.

This is the way forward. There Will be no more Wars. Just silent Annihilation. westwind.

This is the thread that took the total on the front page to 30,000.

Originally Posted by SpeedFreek

This is the thread that took the total on the front page to 30,000.

Sorry guys but......

I dispute that total. Is there accounting for any accidental double threads over the years? This is a major sticking point. Until your side takes this oversight into account then we can no longer maintain diplomatic forum relations. Further abuse of the Thread Calculating System will not be tolerated. Heed this warning. I am prepared to fight for what's right.

I'm glad I have you on my side,thropo. westwind.

westwind, I have thought about this. I created a way to help me understand what is going on with the world.

Look,

How to satisfy the people.

In a world where human want a slice of pie for their own. How to give pie to human.

There are five human named 01, 02, 03, 04 and 05.

05 is a domain holder, 01, 02, 03, 04 are people of the domain.

To sustain the people, people must have a pie.
but, there is only one pie available.

Solution number 01.
If the pie were to be cut into four pieces and given to each individual person.
Each individual person would not be able to be sustained. A person needs a pie and not a piece of pie.

Solution number 02.
If there were four pies available for the people.
The domain holder cannot produce four pies for the people in the time it is required.
There is only one pie available, this solution is not possible.

Solution number 03.
Use Pies from other domain’s for your own people to use.
The domain holder can conquer other domains, and use their extra pies to sustain all people’s.
This is a viable solution as many domains have more than enough pies for them to use and if there were a single domain holder of the world then all people would be able to be sustained indefinitely, but if world domination is not complete then this solution is not possible.

Solution number 04.
Venture in to unclaimed domains .
Use the countless amount of pies that could possibly exist out of the world in which all these domains live.
This is another viable solution, as there is unclaimed land out there that is filled with a abundance of pie.

Solution number 05.
Let the four people starve and feed only the domain holder.
This is a viable solution.

I thought about it long and hard, what the USA is doing seems to be a mix of solution 03 and as 03 is in progress, Solution 05 is in effect.
I absolutely agree with you Mr. Westwind, I believe we have become ignorant and let our selves become side tracked from all the other possible solutions.

Technology keeps adding pieces of pie to split up.

I love Pies. The Australian Meat Pie is famous. Plenty of good free range Beef and, depending wether they are Home Made or Factory made, the Pastry compliments the Taste. They are Hand Sized, deep, and normally served Hot in celaphane packaging. Escpecially at Sporting Venues when there is something on. Tomatoe sauce is a must, squirted into the centre top of the Pie. This is normal fare for on the go. Normally the Pie will burn the roof of your mouth and the gravy everywhere, but give up?. Never. I'll have another one, thank you.

But back to the Thread. Maybe some Members will think I am Cruel. Nuke-ing everybody in sight. No, not at all. Hurt us, meaning the USA or Australia, and eventually, when you least expect it, we will take out your Heartland and put you back in the Stone Age. End of Story.

There is no other answer, because all the other answers have been tried.

We must change the Direction of all former Military Navy Airforce being in Play. Why should it be like that.? Submarines, heavily armed and abroad at all times. That's what I want. Unemotional, would only have to be used a couple of times and the Dogs of Terrorism and Ignorance will get what's coming to them.

This is a turning point in the History of the World. We are at the Cross-Roads of Civilisation as we Know it. If we continue to Procrastinate, there will be other Nations Submarines out there, ready to Blackmail The West into compliance or submission. westwind.

We all like a little pie from time to time...

My question is...'who ate all the pies?'

There is little evidence of pie stealing... but we do see a lot of fatty boombooms

MMateee. Make pies, not war.

Lets get to the meat of the matter.

At my age QFU a meat pie is preferable to a smack in the mouth with a frozen catfish.

No, I meant to say, is preferable to a night in bed with a frozen catfish. ( HE HE HE ).

Can't do with out you question for you, you know how to stay on Thread. And I do love meat pies. westwind.

Congrats on the 30,000th thread, I think admin should now as a reward give you at least a years free subscription to the www.thescienceforum.com

we will nuke your Nation off the face of this Planet.

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Im against war, but I dont think its a good idea to nuke a nation with hundreds of thousands or millions of civilians, because some people from that country killed an ambassador.


I do agree that troops should no longer be deployed outside their country of origin.

If you dont want wars, it is essential that the root causes of war (War is a Racket), and the propaganda that precedes wars to justify them be examined and prevented.
If you look at the Gulf of Tonkin incident, the USS Liberty attack, and read "Operation Northwoods" and the degenerate LIES used to sell the War in Iraq, you will realize that wars are sold to the public, either with the Media (often demonizing another country to justify bombing them either to save them or to prevent them from attacking), or if required through a false flag incident that causes people to demand retaliation.

Wars should not be profitable, no profit. The Monetary system is a part of the problem, because it places people with influence in conflicts of interest when they stand to profit from fighting to the last drop of other peoples blood. Also, Demonizing another country's leader (like Hugo Chavez) is a grave threat to peace(because it seeds the narrative for war), but the Mainstream media are controlled by a few with high concentration of influence, and the hierarchic nature of most corporate/gov institutions makes it possible to marginalize decent, Phil Donahue's show was cancelled after he had two guests (one of which was for the war in Iraq, which is what the warmongering establishment wanted, but the other guest was against the war, you cant have that), Political Incorrect show was cancelled.

The Reasons for Wars are systemic (you MUST change Fundamental aspects of how society functions to really solve the problem), the people can be manipulated because of the dynamic of the monetary system, hierarchic institutions and control of information, and some people have a lot more influence (concentration of wealth is concentration of power/influence, and also because of the hierarchic organizations they can influence), if you dont fix the system, its like not fixing the gaping hole in the hull of a sinking ship, you may introduce a policy that brings the troops back home, but if a group of influential people can demonize a country or its leader in the media and arrange for a false flag thats blamed on the target, the people will clamor for war, so such anti-war policies (without systemic reform) are like shoveling water out of the ship with a bucket (good in the short term) but imo do not address the root causes of war.

Bring your Policemen home Mr. Head of State. Let the People of this country know that you and the government are done with it. If neigbours like Fred and Mary and Harry , or any of the people in the next town have a notion of conflict, then let them get on with it. But count us out.

Go on and Kill your bloody selves.

But do not think for a moment that we will come a'running, cause we bloody well wont.

Just something you should remember. Attack our me or our my Aunt Ethel, attack my Bridge Club, assassinate my golf partner --we will not come after you.

We will patiently establish guilt, and, with our automatic weapons and C4, at our own good time, we will blast you and your family and your greengrocer off the face of this Planet.

Don't believe this. Well try it on.

This is the way forward. There Will be no more Wars. Just silent Annihilation. westwindII.

You've nailed it John. I do not know if you intended your Poste 12 to be just a little, well, I never use the word if I can absolutely avoid it, but it peculierly belongs to the English and they use the form of expression when something bothers them or dosen't sit quite right with them.

That word is sar--cass--ism. There I'VE SAID IT.

Ipersonally try not to get caught in that corner. Its so smug and a redrawal of self and intelligence and a lashing out that could be misinterpreted as a warlike threat.

And I don't believe for a moment that your intent was anyway personal. You were attacking the, what you saw as the simplicity of the Thread. You have that right. but if that was the intent, then you have let yourself down.

I did not have my tongue in cheek when I created this Thread.

Cosy Corners are wonderful places. Friendly Greengocers contribute to the ambience. And I like a game of Golf myself. I also like Father Xmas and the Tooth Fairy.

And I also spent 30 years of my life in the Defence Dept.

If you are angry in any way with my assessment of your Poste 12, then tell me. I'll brook no more misunderstandings. It could lead to the Fourth World War. westwind.

Your idea was isolationist, fascist, selfish and simplistic. These, unfortunately, were its strong points. I find your recommendation, if serious, abhorrent on many levels and attractive on none. If you are uncomfortable with that assessment you will just have to deal with that.

OK. So this is the real John Galt that I know and respect on The Science Forum.

Remember I'm the One who described your virility.

I'm no bloody Fascist. If My Poste suggests that, then my Poste is wrong or I do not Properly understand the meaninfg of the word.

Franco was my mortal Enemy. Franco was a Fascist.

Simplistic, yes. I'm only Simplistic when I want my expression to shock. To grab the ears of someone who is not listening. To shake their head and say Look!! Something has to change around here.

I'll deal with Abhorrent, because thats what it is. Deliberately. Attractive it was not meant to be.

So what will we do John, now that we have cleared that up to the point that you have the right to maintain your views, and my purpose has been achieved.

No Submarines? No threat of Nucleur? No unhappiness that there may be another 9/11?

As long as you can get that round of Golf in and pick up a lettuce on the way home, everything will be hunkey dorey?

Thats smacks to me of being quite content to let things drift along and things will sort themselves out without a change of Defence Policy? westwind.

No more wars is asking a lot. Unfortunately its the going rate for freedom these days. Wars aren't always the stereotypical versions involving armed forces pitted against each other. When I think of what's ahead for women's equality globally, I can't help but think of what that's going to cost in lives. It's a war in itself, would you go fight a regime because they kill their womenfolk? How do you stop it or does anyone think its worth it? Yes, war is insane.

War can serve a useful function. It can help with population control and reduction, developments of new technologies and much more.

Originally Posted by dmwyant

War can serve a useful function. It can help with population control and reduction, developments of new technologies and much more.

Ya, it's just great! All those marvellous things and you forgot music. Great songs thanks to war. I like this one

OK. I'll take this opportunity to say this again. I wasn't there. But I see a lot of young men were. In the Pacific. In Korea. In Vietnam.

I was a Boy. A youth. A younger married man. You fought my Battles.

I personally thanked some of you. You didn't know it but I'm alive because of you.

I've kept going as you would have wanted me to. And didn't handle all situations as well as I might have. I screwed up good on some of them. But I'm still here.

Because of what you did.

So now, as I've grown old, I'm trying to put something back. I'm posting on The Science Forum. I'm planting seed. I put my arms around people and hug them. I'm a great hugger.

Because you can't. westwind.

As much as I would love to say that we could stop having wars, it simply will not work. As long as there are two people on this earth there will be war, or at the very least, the possibility of war. Or unless we all stop having negative emotions, but what is the possibility of that?
Although war is overall a terrible thing, you cannot deny that there have been things that come out of it that are not that bad. Take WW2 for example. There were many medical advances made during the war, as a direct result of the war.

There's is more to war than just negative emotions- such as conflict or resources.

Originally Posted by Jagfist

Although war is overall a terrible thing, you cannot deny that there have been things that come out of it that are not that bad. Take WW2 for example. There were many medical advances made during the war, as a direct result of the war.

I'd just as soon have medical advancements in peacetime. What you're saying is war provides a good quantity of limbs blown off, disfigurement, paralysis, head trauma and psychological wounds. Its better than funding medical research, that's why we do it, war is a benefit like no other