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    What military "hard wear" would you want in the case of a heavy zombie attack?Would you go light or heavy? And why? What vehicles would you want to use? Some things I may want are clay more mines. A S.A.W. A beretta 9mmA HMMWV up armorA Mark 19A M4. An lots of ammo and plenty of MRE'sAlso dragon Skin body armor


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    Every Zombie Apocalypse home defense should start with a Ford F250 mounted Mk19.


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    Hey there R1D2 welcome to the forum!
    I would choose the knight xv amoured vehicle (http://www.yosax.com/knight-xv-armored-vehicle), it's one tough SOB and I'd definately go heavy. I quite liked to play doom going back a few years and loved the minigun, so that would probarbly be my first choice of primary weapon along with a nice big axe and samurai sword. The thing I'd want above everything else though, as you wisely point out, is a complete set of (bite proof) body armour, how do they seem to miss the body armour in virtually all the zombie films? Well beats me.
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    What kind of zombies are they? Are they true undead, or just mutated humans that still have beating hearts?

    Not much point in shooting the undead with bullets. They have no vital organs. Better to go with a flame thrower or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax View Post
    What kind of zombies are they? Are they true undead, or just mutated humans that still have beating hearts?Not much point in shooting the undead with bullets. They have no vital organs. Better to go with a flame thrower or something.
    We will say there is a Mix of both around. And just asking Vampires are considered undead. So how is a undead Zombie like a undead Vampire? - Chrisgorlitz thanks for the welcome.
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    A few more questions:

    1 - What is the level of intelligence of these zombies? Are they able to use guns, or other weapons like swords? Or do they just mindlessly charge at you?

    2 - How fast are they? Do they just slowly lumber along, or can they run as fast as a normal person?

    3 - What are your relative numbers like? Are there 2 zombies for every normal person trying to survive with you? Or is it more like 10 to 1, or 100 to 1, or 1000 to 1?
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    Kojax, I don't mean to upset you. But you are being anal about all the details. But for your sake I will make up a scenario for you. They want to eat your brains. Or turn you into a zombie. They kinda are not very bright. They are determined, aggressive, and "hungry". They don't know how to utilize weapons. But they are determined to sink there teeth in you. They walk slow. But can run but not as fast, as you. When some got turned. They kept former injures. And that means some may be paralyzed. They have a similar mind set about finding non zombies. So they are almost a pack hunter group. They have no real loyalty to one another, an have attacked each other. And bitten a head off over "food". Break their leg an they my crawl. But they don't give up easy. My suggestion is they won't be able to get you if they don't have a head. Or they sustain enough head trauma. As far as numbers or strength of this enemy. The numbers are hard to determine. But the "pack groups" can be about ten to one. We will "believe" that the zombies are strong in number. And the zombie outbreak has just began. A cure to stop the out break from spreading would be to get all zombies. If everyone on the lands of Earth gets infected. The survivors think if the zombies infect everything they will eventually die off leaving the planet "lifeless on land". And to make matters worse the "human zombies" are starting to infect animals. They move about the same. Maybe a tad slower. And they act almost like they are rabid with rabies. Except they are more "mangy",the eyes are bloodshot. And they animals are aggressive loners. The "animal zombies" numbers are guessed at close to 3 to 1[Does this help](FYI. A good Zombie movie I think is Zombieland.)
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    Zombie in this 1985 movie are smart & can't die at all.
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    A Franchi SPAS-12 with incendiary rounds.
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    You need a portable M-29 Davy Crockett tactical nuke launcher. Its good for killing undead zombie.
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    For zombie removal...I prefer the Kel-tec KSG


    It has 2 7 round ammo tubes and a switch to select between the two. I'd use Remington defender ammo (1 ounce slug + three .00 shot pellets) It's small enough to sling over the back. For the longer range shots, I'd stick with Kel-tec, the .308 RFB


    Top it with a laser-designator and scope combo for night vision:


    For sidearms, I'd carry the FN fiveSeven for large ammo capacity and long range penatration power, and an HK 45 ACP for knockdown power


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    Damn MacGyver... I have the same loadout at home... I don't use defender rounds though I have Buck shot in 1 tube and slugs in the other. I am also looking at getting a civilian P-90 in .22
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1D2 View Post
    Kojax, I don't mean to upset you. But you are being anal about all the details. But for your sake I will make up a scenario for you. They want to eat your brains. Or turn you into a zombie. They kinda are not very bright. They are determined, aggressive, and "hungry". They don't know how to utilize weapons. But they are determined to sink there teeth in you. They walk slow. But can run but not as fast, as you. When some got turned. They kept former injures. And that means some may be paralyzed. They have a similar mind set about finding non zombies. So they are almost a pack hunter group. They have no real loyalty to one another, an have attacked each other. And bitten a head off over "food". Break their leg an they my crawl. But they don't give up easy. My suggestion is they won't be able to get you if they don't have a head. Or they sustain enough head trauma. As far as numbers or strength of this enemy. The numbers are hard to determine. But the "pack groups" can be about ten to one. We will "believe" that the zombies are strong in number. And the zombie outbreak has just began. A cure to stop the out break from spreading would be to get all zombies. If everyone on the lands of Earth gets infected. The survivors think if the zombies infect everything they will eventually die off leaving the planet "lifeless on land". And to make matters worse the "human zombies" are starting to infect animals. They move about the same. Maybe a tad slower. And they act almost like they are rabid with rabies. Except they are more "mangy",the eyes are bloodshot. And they animals are aggressive loners. The "animal zombies" numbers are guessed at close to 3 to 1[Does this help](FYI. A good Zombie movie I think is Zombieland.)
    That helps a lot. So if it's an infection, then we have to kill them at range so they don't infect us. So no chainsaws.

    Head removal can be tricky, but really all we need to take out is their eyes, right? I'm thinking some kind of shotgun with buckshot, so hopefully every face shot will hit their eyes, then.

    Now, their eyes aren't human anymore, right? A powerful laser can be used to permanently blind human beings. Longer range, and all you need for ammunition is a strong battery. But you need to aim it precisely.

    Are there any religious overtones here? Can we use holy water on them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmwyant View Post
    Damn MacGyver... I have the same loadout at home... I don't use defender rounds though I have Buck shot in 1 tube and slugs in the other. I am also looking at getting a civilian P-90 in .22
    I'm jealous...I don't actually own any of those guns...I was just assuming I had access to whatever we wanted for the zombie apocalypse.
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    Now, if were talking about vehicle weapons...a nice GAU-19 .50 cal mingun would work nicely:

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    I'd want a pan of my ex-wife's bisquits. There isn't a zombie that's walked this earth that those things couldn't kill.
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    Why is this on Military Tech, This shouldn't be on Military Tech, I like my Mil Tech to be full of Mill Tech threads not zombie Apocalypse speculations. People please...
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    I'd prefer something light, reliable, that can be suppressed, easy maintenance, and uses ammunition that is common. Though, I don't think I'd do too much zombie fighting. The second signs of a zombie outbreak becomes apparent I would stock up on the essential supplies/tools, download as much information as I possibly can (before the networks disappear), and prepare to hold out until my new bestfriend comes along: Winter.

    Then, given my location, I would hunt down all the supplies I can carry - and start the long trek North. My planned destination is awesome, and once there, I shouldn't have to worry about Zombies anymore (I get bored.. This is a scenario I often play out in my head).
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    Quote Originally Posted by stander-j View Post
    I'd prefer something light, reliable, that can be suppressed, easy maintenance, and uses ammunition that is common. Though, I don't think I'd do too much zombie fighting. The second signs of a zombie outbreak becomes apparent I would stock up on the essential supplies/tools, download as much information as I possibly can (before the networks disappear), and prepare to hold out until my new bestfriend comes along: Winter.

    Then, given my location, I would hunt down all the supplies I can carry - and start the long trek North. My planned destination is awesome, and once there, I shouldn't have to worry about Zombies anymore (I get bored.. This is a scenario I often play out in my head).
    Then you definitely want something in 7.62mm nato. Might I suggest the HK 417?




    The HK 417 is all of the things you asked for....super reliable, easy to clean, uses super common ammo, and is very customizable to fit your needs.
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    GAU-19... I will take two please... Do they came in International Rescue Orange???

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    Miltary's have used molotov cocktails. And I would like to use a XM500


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    How effective would an ordinary IED be on these guys? I'm just thinking, they're zombies, right? They're dumb. Why put yourself in personal danger by trying to engage them in a straight fight? Just lure them into a trap. It can't be too hard to fool them into walking into it.

    I think this is one of the reasons why the Taliban is so successful in Afghanistan. Americans get fascinated with expensive toys, better guns, nifty ammunition that does special tricks. The Taliban just rigs up an unexploded artillery munition to a cell phone. Then they spend the rest of their day figuring out where to place it. It's simple. It blows up. It doesn't need to throw out purple smoke or scathe its victims with some special formula of incediary gas (with a secret ingredient only Hajim the gas cooker knows) or specially crafted shrapnel bits.

    Give me a choice between using bad tactics with top of the line super expensive equipment, and using good tactics with a beat up old rusty AK-47 and a few world war II grenades, and I'll pick the AK-47 option any day of the week.
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    Since this is a science forum it is appropriate to research actual cases of walking dead people. All the popular depictions are clearly fiction so they have to be discounted. The remaining cases predate the age of science but are well documented and are clearly serious reports of events that the writers clearly believe to actually have happened. In neither of these cases were the walking dead in any way harmful to others. They expressed no interest in eating brains or sucking blood. One did eat some cooked fish. On the other hand there is no evidence that they could be "re killed". This is "OK" since both cases of walking dead are very clearly "good guys". So a military response is not in any way appropriate. In fact attempting to attack either one is very likely to immediately fatal or worse. I recommend extrem politness to the point of being obsequious.
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    Lets not forget that one of the most famous zombie cases demonstrated, if you believe the reports, evidence of supernatural powers by the zombie. He qwas able to raise other zombies. He was able to transmute mundane materials, and perhaps the biggest one. He could walk on water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax View Post
    How effective would an ordinary IED be on these guys? I'm just thinking, they're zombies, right? They're dumb. Why put yourself in personal danger by trying to engage them in a straight fight? Just lure them into a trap. It can't be too hard to fool them into walking into it.

    I think this is one of the reasons why the Taliban is so successful in Afghanistan. Americans get fascinated with expensive toys, better guns, nifty ammunition that does special tricks. The Taliban just rigs up an unexploded artillery munition to a cell phone. Then they spend the rest of their day figuring out where to place it. It's simple. It blows up. It doesn't need to throw out purple smoke or scathe its victims with some special formula of incediary gas (with a secret ingredient only Hajim the gas cooker knows) or specially crafted shrapnel bits.

    Give me a choice between using bad tactics with top of the line super expensive equipment, and using good tactics with a beat up old rusty AK-47 and a few world war II grenades, and I'll pick the AK-47 option any day of the week.
    I would agree. I would much prefer a "Macgyver" solution.

    For this Zombie removal project, you will need:

    -Several 5 gallon buckets, filled with large ball-bearings, nuts and bolts, fishing weights, or any other heavy metal fragments.
    - an equal number of 15 inch lengths of 2 inch steel pipe, threaded on each end plus end caps.
    - a large container of reloading gunpowder.
    - wiring
    -battery

    Fill the pipes with gunpowder, drill holes in the endcaps for ignition wires...then place vertically in the center of the 5 gallon bucket...then fill with metal shards of your liking. Run wiring to a safe distance. Place buckets in a circle or square to maximize the "kill zone"...lure the zombies in with brains...and blamo!
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    SyFy channel next Saturday 9:00pm EST. (This just might be one of the best zombie movies in a long time.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post

    Then you definitely want something in 7.62mm nato. Might I suggest the HK 417?




    The HK 417 is all of the things you asked for....super reliable, easy to clean, uses super common ammo, and is very customizable to fit your needs.
    That certainly looks like a nice gun, is it legal? I know guns are legal in america but can people really just go into a shop and buy machine guns and assault rifles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
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    Then you definitely want something in 7.62mm nato. Might I suggest the HK 417?




    The HK 417 is all of the things you asked for....super reliable, easy to clean, uses super common ammo, and is very customizable to fit your needs.
    That certainly looks like a nice gun, is it legal? I know guns are legal in america but can people really just go into a shop and buy machine guns and assault rifles?

    It depends on the state. In most places, you can buy a semi-automatic version. For a suppressor or full-auto, you need a special license.
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    LOL...Somehow, MacGyver, I was under the impression that you were a computer tech, who is fond of beer and flash fry turkey, handy in the kitchen and a go-to guy with mechanical/computer type problems, probably capable of setting a rabbit snare and field dressing critters. Hardly expected that your repertoire of 'recipes' was so....ahem....'diverse'.

    You are probably on half a dozen surveillance lists by your posts to this thread.

    Then again, so may be I for recognizing your 'hidden' talents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post

    It depends on the state. In most places, you can buy a semi-automatic version. For a suppressor or full-auto, you need a special license.
    Cheers for the info.

    Found this little gem that look like it might get the job done:


    Beretta ARX-160 rifle along with GLG-160 grenade launcher and set of opto-electronic equipment which includes TV/IR/Optical sight, laser rangefinder, laser pointer and ballistic computer for grenade launcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    LOL...Somehow, MacGyver, I was under the impression that you were a computer tech, who is fond of beer and flash fry turkey, handy in the kitchen and a go-to guy with mechanical/computer type problems, probably capable of setting a rabbit snare and field dressing critters. Hardly expected that your repertoire of 'recipes' was so....ahem....'diverse'.

    You are probably on half a dozen surveillance lists by your posts to this thread.

    Then again, so may be I for recognizing your 'hidden' talents.

    hey...like the boy scouts say..."Be Prepared". If the undead take over the world...I want to be ready for them.
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    Two of these old military weapons with a rebuilt electrical firing mechanism, would be great for a hoard of zombies in very close quarters. In an attempt to help you escape.They are known as the blunderbuss.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blund...om/musket9.htm

    http://www.militaryheritage.com/musket9.htm
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    The most important aspect of defending against low-IQ and slow Zombies imo would be cooperation, I would rather be part of a neighborhood watch where everyone is equipped with light weapons, a smart phone and tools, and be equipped with intelligence and community cooperation mindset, than to have any heavy hardware. Imo a coordinated team can mop the floor with a number uncoordinated individuals. If the zombies cant read, you can set up traps and fire kill zones with baits to lure them where they will be vulnerable to entrapment and shot and even have signs so that kids and people stay away from these. The traps can be to entrap them, entangle/disable or crush and slice off their legs or arms. You establish sentry/guard duty schedules, have any location that needs to be travelled to scouted first, and have recon mission or communication compilation to map out where the zombies are most present/active.


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    Its tuesday morning, you have your cup of coffee, a walkie talkie/smart phone, a pistol, you get behind the wheel of the modified zombie plow and its time to clear out he roads.


    (About having a pure military thread instead of a zombie apocalypse...
    ... Yes, what a shame to talk about killing fantasy creatures that dont exist, what we really want as fellow sociopaths is pure mass murder discussions about killing real men, women and children, in as many numbers as possible, I want nothing but pure and wholesome mass murder of human beings to be the guiding light. Killing thousands of civilians with an Atomic bomb that burns alive school children or a Palestinian baby was burned to the bone by Israeli incendiary phosphorous ordinance, oh yeah, now your talking about real military situations that actually took place, yeehaaw!)
    (in case its not evident, its sarcasm)
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    a smart phone...
    Sorts of surprises me, since I don't see an urgent use for them even now. Perhaps it's a generational thing.
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    Zombie_sighting_App.JPG

    Actually anyone without a gun but with a phone and seeing zombies from his window can be quite dangerous if he calls the nearest anti-zombie hunt squad,
    but smart phones have the potential to add a nice touch.

    But my intent was mainly about a communication device be it walkie talkie, portable radio, normal cell phone, it doesnt have to be a smart phone with maps and all sorts of networking and coordination potential and guides such as the guide to zombies (each type with weak points etc), how to disinfect zombie wounds, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icewendigo View Post
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    Actually anyone without a gun but with a phone and seeing zombies from his window can be quite dangerous if he calls the nearest anti-zombie hunt squad,
    but smart phones have the potential to add a nice touch.

    But my intent was mainly about a communication device be it walkie talkie, portable radio, normal cell phone, it doesnt have to be a smart phone with maps and all sorts of networking and coordination potential and guides such as the guide to zombies (each type with weak points etc), how to disinfect zombie wounds, etc.
    Actually, I am more fearful of persons who are addicted to their smart phones, as they are a real and present danger in daily life, almost as if they were some kind of precursor to the zombie apocalypse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1D2 View Post
    Two of these old military weapons with a rebuilt electrical firing mechanism, would be great for a hoard of zombies in very close quarters. In an attempt to help you escape.They are known as the blunderbuss.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blund...om/musket9.htm

    18th Century Blunderbuss (Black Powder Muzzleloader)

    That might be a little slow on the reload.

    How about this instead: 3 rounds per minute vs. 300

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    "Actually, I am more fearful of persons who are addicted to their smart phones, as they are a real and present danger in daily life, "

    Yeah, when you put it this way. More people have died from accidents caused by texting while driving, than by zombies. Fortunatly Google and others are developing car that drive by themselves so your lump of meat can be transported while your mind is fighting zombies in a virtual reality game .
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    What military "hard wear" would you want in the case of a heavy zombie attack?Would you go light or heavy? And why? What vehicles would you want to use? Some things I may want are clay more mines. A S.A.W. A beretta 9mmA HMMWV up armorA Mark 19A M4. An lots of ammo and plenty of MRE'sAlso dragon Skin body armor
    Firearms are not readily available where I come from so it’ll have to be up close and bloody. So my preferred weapon of choice would have to the hurley stick or a heavy pitch fork to take out the twitchers.
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    If bacteria can save us from invading Martians then I’m guessing it’ll be the maggot to save us from a zombie apocalypse. Maggots feed on dead flesh so my advice would be to lay low on a small island someplace nice with a stash of non-perishables and a fly swatter.
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    Ok, forget I even mentioned the blunderbuss. I will absolutely want a AA12. Super low recoil, excellent rate of fire, requires really no oil, and it uses very common ammo. Oh and they are even being used on robots. I would like to use dove and double ought buck in a random order load. You may search for extra information. But here is a site.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atchi...ult_ShotgunAnd here is a couple pictures I found....
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1D2 View Post
    Ok, forget I even mentioned the blunderbuss. I will absolutely want a AA12. Super low recoil, excellent rate of fire, requires really no oil, and it uses very common ammo. Oh and they are even being used on robots. I would like to use dove and double ought buck in a random order load. You may search for extra information.
    I am assuming you have never fired one from your comment about super low recoil. These things kick like a mule om steroids.
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    What can you carry? Can you carry an ak-47 with a few hundred rounds, a shot gun with 50-100 rounds, a hand gun with a few hundred rounds? What about food, water, first-aid, shelter, knifes, tools, etc? How much can a person carry?

    Water by itself is 8 pounds a gallon (add weight for what you carry it in).
    A pound or two for food, right?
    First aid and meds a few more pounds.
    20 pounds or so for a knife, tools, utensils and shelter.
    The ak-47 is 10 plus pounds with a thirty round clip. Add 300 rounds and the total weight for that rifle and ammo (hopefully you wont need more ammo) sits at about 21 pounds.
    .45 hand gun and 100 rounds adds about another 6-8 pounds.

    Add flashlight/s, batteries, compass, and/or other guns like a shotgun, a hunting rifle, the ammo for them, and any other things someone might need and it becomes clear to me anyways that light and lighter is better or might be better.
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    The greatest weapon of all would be to ask your self, "what would be the greatest weapon to use against zombies" especially when there is a real zombie pandemic . FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1D2 View Post
    Ok, forget I even mentioned the blunderbuss. I will absolutely want a AA12. Super low recoil, excellent rate of fire, requires really no oil, and it uses very common ammo. Oh and they are even being used on robots. I would like to use dove and double ought buck in a random order load. You may search for extra information. But here is a site.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atchi...ult_ShotgunAnd here is a couple pictures I found....
    At least with a blunderbuss you can make your own ammo. The trouble with all of these fancy gadget guns is what do you do if the apocalypse doesn't end in the first few years? I'm pretty sure the factory you bought those super-powered bullets from will have been overrun, or at least shut down for lack of electricity to run it.
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    Another rather nice zombie killing weapon might be the GAU-17/A minigun.


    1000 metre range with a 2000 - 6000 rounds per minute rate of fire.
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    I have an idea for the Best Weapon for semi close-up work.

    What we really need is a Self-Reloading Shotgun, about 10 to 12 Bore - with a damn big Magazine.

    Your biggest risk is the time taken to Reload, whilst another Dozen Zombies are trying to crawl all over you.

    And Self-Reloading - Absolutely Essential - Every Trigger Pull is a Shot.
    You don get caught Re-cocking.
    Faster Rate of Fire than a Pump Action - so more destruction, quicker.

    Magazine - maybe 20 Shots, even if it is heavy.

    I REALLY think that Weapon would be the ideal Weapon for Urban Fighting
    in a "normal" War - such as House Clearing.
    An under-barrel Grenade Launcher for Mini-Grenades would help as well.

    Unfortunaltely - as far as I can tell - nobody ever developed a real
    Self-Reloading Shotgun.

    The damn Military always look down on Shotguns - despite their usefulness.

    And, of course, A Hunter would not need Self-Rleoading, except in some
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    Defence against Packs of Wolves, maybe - VERY Hungry Wolves.
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    Are biological weapons allowed here? What if you could breed a lot of maggots to accelerate the rotting process? Maybe that would help?

    What about using holy water together with some of those super-squirt guns they're selling in toy stores these days? Cheap and effective. Just need to find a priest who isn't a child molester to bless it.
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    Unfortunaltely - as far as I can tell - nobody ever developed a real
    Self-Reloading Shotgun.
    You need to get out more, the first semi-automatic shotgun was the Browning Auto-5, first produced in 1905. Yes, that's right, over a hundred years ago. Fully Auto shotguns were first developed in the 1970's, such as the AA12.
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    Possibly a bit off topic but since we're talking zombie apocalypse here, where would be the best place to go? I mean do you do a "Shaun of the Dead" and head for your local boozer, or maybe perhaps try for a shopping mall as in "Dawn of the Dead", or head for a boat or island possibly? Where would be the best place to go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    Possibly a bit off topic but since we're talking zombie apocalypse here, where would be the best place to go? I mean do you do a "Shaun of the Dead" and head for your local boozer, or maybe perhaps try for a shopping mall as in "Dawn of the Dead", or head for a boat or island possibly? Where would be the best place to go?
    depends on the situation and circumstances, right? I think the best plan for most situations is to have enough supplies to be OK in the short and medium term and then the ability to assess the situation and circumstances and make plans/decisions based solely on the situation and circumstances.

    There are so many people preparing for so many different things (hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, etc.,), and they should but, beyond food, defense and something to barter with, many people are going to be in many different situations and under many different circumstances that any plans beyond the short and medium term are more than likely going to be unneeded or fruitless. Of course this is just my opinion and many others have their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzales56 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    Possibly a bit off topic but since we're talking zombie apocalypse here, where would be the best place to go? I mean do you do a "Shaun of the Dead" and head for your local boozer, or maybe perhaps try for a shopping mall as in "Dawn of the Dead", or head for a boat or island possibly? Where would be the best place to go?
    depends on the situation and circumstances, right? I think the best plan for most situations is to have enough supplies to be OK in the short and medium term and then the ability to assess the situation and circumstances and make plans/decisions based solely on the situation and circumstances.

    There are so many people preparing for so many different things (hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, etc.,), and they should but, beyond food, defense and something to barter with, many people are going to be in many different situations and under many different circumstances that any plans beyond the short and medium term are more than likely going to be unneeded or fruitless. Of course this is just my opinion and many others have their own.
    I must say there is something about a good zombie film I do rather enjoy, they never seem to end well though. I just wondering if there's anywhere that would be a really good place to go, obviously you don't want to be sat in your living room watching the zombie hoards roaming around outside for any length of time. What interests me also is how handle it, do we head off with our families or band together with others, the whole safety in numbers thing and how far do we go? Do we stay local or try to get some sort of armoured or large vehicle and go long distance. I guess really in sort an event we really have the time or clear heads to really consider our best options for such long term survival plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    Possibly a bit off topic but since we're talking zombie apocalypse here, where would be the best place to go? I mean do you do a "Shaun of the Dead" and head for your local boozer, or maybe perhaps try for a shopping mall as in "Dawn of the Dead", or head for a boat or island possibly? Where would be the best place to go?
    If you look around on the Internet, there are many castles for sale. Just thinking a well stocked castle, and you could wait out the worst of the zombie problem.
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    Possibly a bit off topic but since we're talking zombie apocalypse here, where would be the best place to go?
    If you can, invade and secure a supermarket, like Walmart. Get the shutters down over the windows, barricade doors so there's no straight line of entry, create 'ditch bags' with food, medical supplies, guns and ammo by various exits, then check out the perishable foods, consume what's still in, or not too far out of date, and dump the rest before it goes bad, then chillax with the preserved food, and the best firearms they stock. Get yourself up to the roof every now and again, take a radio (CB, FMRS, GMRS, PMR446, whatever they stock) and get some calls out for survivors. There are suggested Emergency channels for each band, 675 for GMRS in the USA, in Europe, it's PMR446 channel 8 without CTCSS, use those, but if there's a scanner available, get that listening. This is one thing they have utterly failed with in 'The Walking Dead', Grimes was using his Police radio, when he's far more likely to pick up chatter on CB or some other civilian band.

    Of course in the UK, our local ASDA/WalMart doesn't stock firearms, so we' need to make some weapons, so converting a portion of the booze aisle into molotov cocktails isn't a bad idea.
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    Rubber brains.

    Just toss 'em out to the zombies. Everytime they try to bite, they'll bounce off. Keeps them occupied for hours, as they fight with each other trying to get the brains, only to bite and bounce off- But too stupid to go looking for better when perfectly good brains are right in front of them.

    Entertainment for the entire family. Give Grandpa a slingshot and rubber brain.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlogistician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    Possibly a bit off topic but since we're talking zombie apocalypse here, where would be the best place to go?
    If you can, invade and secure a supermarket, like Walmart. Get the shutters down over the windows, barricade doors so there's no straight line of entry, create 'ditch bags' with food, medical supplies, guns and ammo by various exits, then check out the perishable foods, consume what's still in, or not too far out of date, and dump the rest before it goes bad, then chillax with the preserved food, and the best firearms they stock. Get yourself up to the roof every now and again, take a radio (CB, FMRS, GMRS, PMR446, whatever they stock) and get some calls out for survivors. There are suggested Emergency channels for each band, 675 for GMRS in the USA, in Europe, it's PMR446 channel 8 without CTCSS, use those, but if there's a scanner available, get that listening. This is one thing they have utterly failed with in 'The Walking Dead', Grimes was using his Police radio, when he's far more likely to pick up chatter on CB or some other civilian band.

    Of course in the UK, our local ASDA/WalMart doesn't stock firearms, so we' need to make some weapons, so converting a portion of the booze aisle into molotov cocktails isn't a bad idea.
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    Rubber brains.

    Just toss 'em out to the zombies. Everytime they try to bite, they'll bounce off. Keeps them occupied for hours, as they fight with each other trying to get the brains, only to bite and bounce off- But too stupid to go looking for better when perfectly good brains are right in front of them.

    Entertainment for the entire family. Give Grandpa a slingshot and rubber brain.





    *Warning: Do not point sling shot toward eyes or face. Not suitable for small children. Do not attempt to eat brains yourself. Cannot be used to replace a living brain. Do not expose to fire or heat. Only expose to confused zombies as intended.

    "Use your brain" suddenly took on a whole new range of possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlogistician View Post
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    Possibly a bit off topic but since we're talking zombie apocalypse here, where would be the best place to go?
    If you can, invade and secure a supermarket, like Walmart. Get the shutters down over the windows, barricade doors so there's no straight line of entry, create 'ditch bags' with food, medical supplies, guns and ammo by various exits, then check out the perishable foods, consume what's still in, or not too far out of date, and dump the rest before it goes bad, then chillax with the preserved food, and the best firearms they stock. Get yourself up to the roof every now and again, take a radio (CB, FMRS, GMRS, PMR446, whatever they stock) and get some calls out for survivors. There are suggested Emergency channels for each band, 675 for GMRS in the USA, in Europe, it's PMR446 channel 8 without CTCSS, use those, but if there's a scanner available, get that listening. This is one thing they have utterly failed with in 'The Walking Dead', Grimes was using his Police radio, when he's far more likely to pick up chatter on CB or some other civilian band.

    Of course in the UK, our local ASDA/WalMart doesn't stock firearms, so we' need to make some weapons, so converting a portion of the booze aisle into molotov cocktails isn't a bad idea.
    Places like wal mart, grocery stores, etc., will be, IMO, the first places everyone goes to, right? For those that have these type of ideas or zombie apocalypse plans, may I suggest that there might possibly be more wisdom and value in going to distribution and/or shipping centers first, instead of stores? Just an idea.
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    Originally posted by gonzales56:
    Places like wal mart, grocery stores, etc., will be, IMO, the first places everyone goes to, right? For those that have these type of ideas or zombie apocalypse plans, may I suggest that there might possibly be more wisdom and value in going to distribution and/or shipping centers first, instead of stores? Just an idea.
    I would think that such retail outlets would be the natural targets for zombies as well for if you are seeking food, then go where the food supply is for the critter you are hunting. Surely even zombies would have that instinct? Can't claim to know much about them... Walmart shoppers also appear to be among some of the least threatening of our species, judging by the on-line photography, save when massive sales are being advertised. I gather that the species can be dangerous when they 'stampede'.
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    Places like wal mart, grocery stores, etc., will be, IMO, the first places everyone goes to, right? For those that have these type of ideas or zombie apocalypse plans, may I suggest that there might possibly be more wisdom and value in going to distribution and/or shipping centers first, instead of stores? Just an idea.
    I think I'd be with you on this one and off to find a large boat asap. I think though I'd look to get a few people together first, never no what skill you're going to need, probrably a doctor if I could find one, followed by an engineer and farmer. Guns are certainly harder to come by in this country so probarbly be less emphasis on trying to kill the zombie than avoid them, also though one the biggest dangers to worry about as shown in "Dawn of the Dead" is other people wanting to take all your nicely aquired survival gear, so they also need to be avoided where possible. But yes definately head for a boat, then hopefully nice warm small island somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Originally posted by gonzales56:
    Places like wal mart, grocery stores, etc., will be, IMO, the first places everyone goes to, right? For those that have these type of ideas or zombie apocalypse plans, may I suggest that there might possibly be more wisdom and value in going to distribution and/or shipping centers first, instead of stores? Just an idea.
    I would think that such retail outlets would be the natural targets for zombies as well for if you are seeking food, then go where the food supply is for the critter you are hunting. Surely even zombies would have that instinct? Can't claim to know much about them... Walmart shoppers also appear to be among some of the least threatening of our species, judging by the on-line photography, save when massive sales are being advertised. I gather that the species can be dangerous when they 'stampede'.
    I would think zombie instinct would be limited to "see food, get to it and eat" so if it's out of sight the zombie is an aimless, mindless ghoul that wonders around thinking of nothing.

    However I would like to know why zombies are not cannibals? What stops them from eating eachother?
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    Not something you wanna gnaw on. Even if you are one.


    One human playing zombie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
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    Places like wal mart, grocery stores, etc., will be, IMO, the first places everyone goes to, right? For those that have these type of ideas or zombie apocalypse plans, may I suggest that there might possibly be more wisdom and value in going to distribution and/or shipping centers first, instead of stores? Just an idea.
    I think I'd be with you on this one and off to find a large boat asap. I think though I'd look to get a few people together first, never no what skill you're going to need, probrably a doctor if I could find one, followed by an engineer and farmer. Guns are certainly harder to come by in this country so probarbly be less emphasis on trying to kill the zombie than avoid them, also though one the biggest dangers to worry about as shown in "Dawn of the Dead" is other people wanting to take all your nicely aquired survival gear, so they also need to be avoided where possible. But yes definately head for a boat, then hopefully nice warm small island somewhere.
    I'd say go to a distribution center, yes. But first steal a semi-truck. Once you're at the distribution center, find a still-loaded trailer full of food, hook it to your truck, and go.

    Definitely agree that you don't want to congregate where lots of other humans are gathering. The reason? The zombies will go there first. Remember people are their food supply. When they get hungry, they're going to go wherever they can smell the most people.

    I'd suggest finding a cabin very far out in the woods where nobody lives. Or maybe in the desert, or something like that. A zombie would starve to death trying to make the trek out there to find you. (Or wait.... since they're already dead would they be starving to "death"?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzales56 View Post
    Places like wal mart, grocery stores, etc., will be, IMO, the first places everyone goes to, right? For those that have these type of ideas or zombie apocalypse plans, may I suggest that there might possibly be more wisdom and value in going to distribution and/or shipping centers first, instead of stores? Just an idea.
    First there will be panic, people will try to find friends and family, roads will get blocked, there'll be running chaos. This is when you need to act. Use communications while you have them, give friends and family tasks, secure a house, fill containers with running water while you have it, inventory food, charge batteries and phones while the power works, prepare a vehicle, and someone needs to bring tools and meet you at the supermarket. There may be looting, but looters will most likely go steal TVs, rather than medical supplies, and you really need to stock up on those. Distribution centre is a good idea, I live near one, and the bonus is it has a nice 8ft chainlink fence around it. It's only food though, so no medical supplies to be had there. If you want to hole up there, you need someone on your team to gather the other items. BTW, I'm no 'Doomsday Prepper', but I do muse on what I'd do if there was some breakdown of society, but then I started thinking about that when I lived on a airforce base that stored nuclear weapons during the cold war, and wondered what I'd do if somehow I managed to survive the first strike.
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    Places like wal mart, grocery stores, etc., will be, IMO, the first places everyone goes to, right? For those that have these type of ideas or zombie apocalypse plans, may I suggest that there might possibly be more wisdom and value in going to distribution and/or shipping centers first, instead of stores? Just an idea.
    I think I'd be with you on this one and off to find a large boat asap. I think though I'd look to get a few people together first, never no what skill you're going to need, probrably a doctor if I could find one, followed by an engineer and farmer. Guns are certainly harder to come by in this country so probarbly be less emphasis on trying to kill the zombie than avoid them, also though one the biggest dangers to worry about as shown in "Dawn of the Dead" is other people wanting to take all your nicely aquired survival gear, so they also need to be avoided where possible. But yes definately head for a boat, then hopefully nice warm small island somewhere.
    I'd say go to a distribution center, yes. But first steal a semi-truck. Once you're at the distribution center, find a still-loaded trailer full of food, hook it to your truck, and go.

    Definitely agree that you don't want to congregate where lots of other humans are gathering. The reason? The zombies will go there first. Remember people are their food supply. When they get hungry, they're going to go wherever they can smell the most people.

    I'd suggest finding a cabin very far out in the woods where nobody lives. Or maybe in the desert, or something like that. A zombie would starve to death trying to make the trek out there to find you. (Or wait.... since they're already dead would they be starving to "death"?)
    One would think that the vast majority of people would not be able to swiftly travel much further than the gas in their tanks would allow them too, and so any plans that prepare or allow someone to travel a greater distances than the majority of people seems to me to be a benefit. I would think that if you could get to a secluded cabin relatively swift that it would give you a great advantage. I would also think that it would be a great advantage if you had the ability to swiftly travel from that cabin to other locations as well.

    Just do me a favor.. Pick me up on the way to the cabin..
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    I don't suppose any of you have any horse armour conveniently lying around? Horses, for those who can handle them, seem like a great alternate form of transportation and they will kick and strike if startled or so trained for aggression in combat. They can graze on quite a variety of forage and in a crisis, they can also be used for food.



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    Not much help for those of you trapped in the concrete jungles though. Personally, I think the 'zombie apocalypse' is already upon us as I observe the glazed eyes of the faces around me, every fibre of their being focused on their handheld personal communication device. It's not just the kids anymore, I'm seeing a lot more adults doing the same thing. 'Zombies' everywhere. Before you can speak to them, you first have to get their attention, and often that is not easy. These zombies are dangerous even if they don't intentionally kill people for it is apparent that their brains have been consumed, and their actions and reactions can easily result in mishap, injury and even death.

    Natural selection in process. Stay away from the zombies. Zombies can sometimes act 'normal' for brief intervals making them difficult to spot.
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    I don't suppose any of you have any horse armour conveniently lying around?
    Unfortunately I don't own a horse, although I can ride a bit, I'm not that confident to gallop for long. I do however have quite a bit of armour, used to LARP/re-enact, so have quite a bit of chain mail, plus some ex-Police body armour. I'd combine the two into something that would give me an edge if something got a bit bitey. Plus I have a few swords, I reckon my O-Dachi would come in handy.
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    Good thinking. Swords don't run out of bullets. Horses don't run out of gas. And in the long run of course horses create other horses.

    Also the down side of driving any kind of road based vehicle is traffic jams. If the zombies are smart enough to put a barrier across the road theymight snare themselves a motorist or two every week when they stop to clear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax View Post
    Good thinking. Swords don't run out of bullets. Horses don't run out of gas. And in the long run of course horses create other horses.

    Also the down side of driving any kind of road based vehicle is traffic jams. If the zombies are smart enough to put a barrier across the road theymight snare themselves a motorist or two every week when they stop to clear it.
    Don't mean to be picky but horses need feeding, they arn't as fast as cars and they can get bitten or eaten, also killing Zombies hand with a sword might be satisfying for the first few but surely you're going to get tired after say the first 100 or so, where as with a gun you can keep popping them off all day long.
    No for me something big and meaty in the vehicle department please and a large arsenal of weaponry and ammunition thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
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    Good thinking. Swords don't run out of bullets. Horses don't run out of gas. And in the long run of course horses create other horses.

    Also the down side of driving any kind of road based vehicle is traffic jams. If the zombies are smart enough to put a barrier across the road theymight snare themselves a motorist or two every week when they stop to clear it.
    Don't mean to be picky but horses need feeding, they arn't as fast as cars and they can get bitten or eaten, also killing Zombies hand with a sword might be satisfying for the first few but surely you're going to get tired after say the first 100 or so, where as with a gun you can keep popping them off all day long.
    No for me something big and meaty in the vehicle department please and a large arsenal of weaponry and ammunition thank you very much.
    Actually, when I go on long rides, I use a bit-less bridle and the horse can grab feed all day long and then chow down a bit more while the rider stretches their legs. 'Fuel' for horses is more readily available than fuel for vehicles under the circumstances of this thread. Personally, my thoughts were to take evasive action and head for the hills and wait out the 'population adjustment.' I live in a sparsely populated area on the edge of the hinterland so that should probably be of some advantage, I'm thinking, and I have swift and hardy steeds. For short distances, I have clocked my mare at 55 kph which should be quick enough to get a head start on even a fast zombie.
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    Oops, I really don't know anything about horse's, probarbly almost a crime that considering where I live lol, but no seriously I don't understand transport without an engine, me on a horse would be comical, I'd spend an hour looking for the accelorator and trying to make it go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    Oops, I really don't know anything about horse's, probably almost a crime that considering where I live lol, but no seriously I don't understand transport without an engine, me on a horse would be comical, I'd spend an hour looking for the accelerator and trying to make it go.
    For a person that's never ridden a horse, it would only take a few hours in the saddle before your ass would hurt so much you would be grateful to any zombie that would end your pain and suffering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    Don't mean to be picky but horses need feeding, they arn't as fast as cars and they can get bitten or eaten, also killing Zombies hand with a sword might be satisfying for the first few but surely you're going to get tired after say the first 100 or so, where as with a gun you can keep popping them off all day long.
    Given we're both in the UK, what do you reckon your chances of finding a firearm and 100 rounds of ammunition are? If I found a gun and ammunition, it would be my last resort, conserved until I was truly in deep shit.
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    How about this for a new zombie killer. The UTS-15:



    Similar to the KSG I posted earlier... except the feed tubes are on top of the barrel, instead of below. Also with the KSG, you have flip a switch to change feeding tubes. This one has a 3-way switch...left lube, right tube...or in the center to alternate rounds from each tube. Lightweight and short...only 6.5 lbs. and 28" long. Plus it looks like something from a futuristic video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    How about this for a new zombie killer. The UTS-15:



    Similar to the KSG I posted earlier... except the feed tubes are on top of the barrel, instead of below. Also with the KSG, you have flip a switch to change feeding tubes. This one has a 3-way switch...left lube, right tube...or in the center to alternate rounds from each tube. Lightweight and short...only 6.5 lbs. and 28" long. Plus it looks like something from a futuristic video game.
    That is very nice.. !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1D2 View Post
    What military "hard wear" would you want in the case of a heavy zombie attack?Would you go light or heavy? And why? What vehicles would you want to use? Some things I may want are clay more mines. A S.A.W. A beretta 9mmA HMMWV up armorA Mark 19A M4. An lots of ammo and plenty of MRE'sAlso dragon Skin body armor
    This thread is a few months old but, I thought it better to post a question here concerning the ammo in a shtf/"zombie" situation than making a completely new thread... So here goes.

    I was thinking about the ammo thing... How much, etc.. So I looked up how much ammunition US soldiers were using at the height of the Iraq war, and of course I also looked up total number of troops in Iraq during this time.

    News reports concerning how much ammo US troops had used states that US forces, at the height of the Iraq War, were using 5.5 to 6 million total rounds per month. The highest amount of coalition troops in Iraq, including US troops (150-170K), was about 170,000 a year. The math per round used each month per soldier is pretty simple...

    It averages out to about 35 rounds fired each month per soldier. A little over 1 round per a day per soldier in Iraq.

    Now lets say that only 45,000 troops practiced shooting and/or seen actual combat. That still only averages out to about 134 rounds fired each month per soldier. About 4.5 rounds per a day per soldier in Iraq.

    Granted zombies are a different story but, for shtf how much ammo would really be required or needed?

    It seems to me that the requirements would be less or maybe even the same as it was for the US troops in Iraq but, surely not more, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzales56 View Post
    This thread is a few months old but, I thought it better to post a question here concerning the ammo in a shtf/"zombie" situation than making a completely new thread... So here goes.I was thinking about the ammo thing... How much, etc.. So I looked up how much ammunition US soldiers were using at the hieght of the Iraq war, and of course I also looked up total number of troops in Iraq during this time.News reports concerning how much ammo state that US forces, at the hieght of the Iraq War, were using 5.5 million total rounds per month. The highest amount of coalition troops in Iraq, including US troops (150-170K), was about 170,000 a year. The math per round used each month per soldier is pretty simple...It averages out to about 35 rounds fired each month per soldier. A little over 1 round per a day per soldier in Iraq.Now lets say that only 45,000 troops practiced shooting and/or seen actual combat. That still only averages out to about 134 rounds fired each month per soldier. About 4.5 rounds per a day per soldier in Iraq.
    I'm not trying to be difficult...

    Really, I'm only curious...

    What is the question?
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    I apologize Neveryfly. I am on an iPod right now and I butchered my post. I even, somehow, knocked of my question/s but, I edited the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzales56 View Post
    I apologize Neveryfly. I am on an iPod right now and I butchered my post. I even, somehow, knocked of my question/s but, I edited the post.
    I do that without the help of an iPod.

    Offhandedly, though, I would assume more ammo is needed since zombies are depicted as requiring a headshot to be stopped.
    If one shot is all that is needed and most rounds during the war were not headshots- why would more be needed?

    Because people are lousy shots, that's why.
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    200,000 American troops
    200,000,000 American zombies

    Each soldier has to kill ~1000 zombies each.
    That will require a huge number of bullets.

    Forget bullets: bombs / chemical attacks are the way to kill zombies.
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    While I respect all zombies, I prefer fast zombies. In that scenario, even our best soldiers would be dry on ammo trying to get headshots on charging zombies. You also have to consider avoiding weapons that will make the area as unlivable as zombies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    While I respect all zombies, I prefer fast zombies. In that scenario, even our best soldiers would be dry on ammo trying to get headshots on charging zombies. You also have to consider avoiding weapons that will make the area as unlivable as zombies.
    Surely a war of attrition would be the 'best' war to defeat zombies.
    Simply hide out in a high-security bunker - after first shooting any morons that could decide that "they needed some fresh air so they went out for a walk, leaving the door open".
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    Zombies have become such a broad canvas on which to paint that there really isn't a single way to deal with them. Part of the reason I love zombies as a theme is that you can do almost anything with them. They can be brought back by evil magic, a virus, a mad scientist, voodoo, anything. Fighting zombies has to be done on a case-by-case basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    Fighting zombies has to be done on a case-by-case basis.
    That should be the tag-line to a government sponsored public information film.
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    I imagine the video would be similar to the Fallout boy stuff from Fallout.
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    I have seen some really good zombie movies lately. Some I have "rewatched". One zombie flick I forgot the name. In that movie there were survivors on a island that had a "safe" area walled off from zombies. If anyone has suggestions on what movie this is post a possibility what it is. One actors "name" was Elvis. If Zombies run out of human food or are in a area that don't have humans what will they feed on? Animals? Eventually there won't be anything but zombies. And why in movies do they show them walking or whatever till they see humans then attacking said humans. I have heard of a weapon I would like having is the Beowulf. And a S&W governor or a Taurus Judge. Or even the Colt Circuit Judge. Circit judge -> Taurus Judge ->
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    I think it would be neat to add a 203 to it and a bayonet,as well.
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    Personally I'd use a Saiga .12 gauge with buckshot since I'm a lousy shot. I would saw the barrel down to around 8", that way I only have to aim in the general direction to get a headshot in close quarters.
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    a smart phone...
    Sorts of surprises me, since I don't see an urgent use for them even now. Perhaps it's a generational thing.
    Assuming the network is still up and the GPS satellites are still functional, a network of people around the city/ countryside/ world can maintain a real-time map of current zombie activity, current resistance, etc. They would be sharing and grouping etc. This would be hugely useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Actually, when I go on long rides, I use a bit-less bridle and the horse can grab feed all day long and then chow down a bit more while the rider stretches their legs. 'Fuel' for horses is more readily available than fuel for vehicles under the circumstances of this thread. Personally, my thoughts were to take evasive action and head for the hills and wait out the 'population adjustment.' I live in a sparsely populated area on the edge of the hinterland so that should probably be of some advantage, I'm thinking, and I have swift and hardy steeds. For short distances, I have clocked my mare at 55 kph which should be quick enough to get a head start on even a fast zombie.
    On the edge of a hinterland that's also somewhere in winterland? If anyone's surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, it's definitely you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    An entrenchment tool, that way I can kill zombies, AND plant my marigolds and roses.
    PopCap will be all over you for that one. May need to use your E-Tool to guard yourself from zombie lawyers.
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    Zombie lawyers are preferred to the vampiric human lawyers that currently reside in today's society?
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    It depends on said zombie's body state. Are they just mentally affected or also physically. If physically an incendiary weapon would kill well or if just an affliction of the mind, any weapon that would actually kill a person, not just make them end up passing, then bleeding out because they would ignore pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax View Post
    Head removal can be tricky, but really all we need to take out is their eyes, right? I'm thinking some kind of shotgun with buckshot, so hopefully every face shot will hit their eyes, then.

    Now, their eyes aren't human anymore, right? A powerful laser can be used to permanently blind human beings. Longer range, and all you need for ammunition is a strong battery. But you need to aim it precisely.
    I don't think a laser or any other normally blinding form of attack would be that effective. Most zombies have opaque corneas:

    which means they are blind or nearly so already. They are probably like animals and hunt more by smell than sight perhaps maintaining a rudimentary level of vision which allows them to see movement or shapes.
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    Actually anyone without a gun but with a phone and seeing zombies from his window can be quite dangerous if he calls the nearest anti-zombie hunt squad,
    but smart phones have the potential to add a nice touch.

    But my intent was mainly about a communication device be it walkie talkie, portable radio, normal cell phone, it doesnt have to be a smart phone with maps and all sorts of networking and coordination potential and guides such as the guide to zombies (each type with weak points etc), how to disinfect zombie wounds, etc.
    Actually, I am more fearful of persons who are addicted to their smart phones, as they are a real and present danger in daily life, almost as if they were some kind of precursor to the zombie apocalypse...

    This actually could be true. If you think about it, when people attack each other, they generally are imagining something in their minds that is negative about the person / group that they are attacking. In fact one of the leading contemporary theories of war causation is that wars start when there is "inside information" and a reason to conceal it. Perhaps "conceal" is equivalent to keeping the information "in the mind".

    Thus, it may be that if there are influences in society that move people more "into the mind", then those influences may predispose people to conflict.

    However, I am not aware of any data associating smart phones or other technology with any sort of violence except I read one paper that suggested that technology growth overall could be the driver of conflict. I have not seen anything on an individual level that associates technology with conflict. However, the causes of individual violence and group violence may be completely unrelated. There is some concern about distraction and performance in high hazard situations, although that may not have anything to do with predisposition to conflict.

    I have noticed myself if I am thinking a lot about things outside of "the moment", then I am more prone to say something that I will regret later.

    Maybe that is "zombie like" state?

    The movie "Warm Bodies" was about a zombie apocalypse, and I think one of the points of the movie is that technology may be making all of us to be in a "zombie state" according to an interview I read by one of the lead actors.

    Personally, I am wondering if being "out of the moment" is to the mind like diabetes is to the body. It does not directly cause harm, but it makes you vulnerable to influences that you might otherwise resist.

    Of course, since I am not good at being "in the moment" myself, I may be just a zombie who is trying to wake up.

    So please don't shoot me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1D2 View Post
    I have seen some really good zombie movies lately. Some I have "rewatched". One zombie flick I forgot the name. In that movie there were survivors on a island that had a "safe" area walled off from zombies. If anyone has suggestions on what movie this is post a possibility what it is. One actors "name" was Elvis. If Zombies run out of human food or are in a area that don't have humans what will they feed on? Animals? Eventually there won't be anything but zombies. And why in movies do they show them walking or whatever till they see humans then attacking said humans. I have heard of a weapon I would like having is the Beowulf. And a S&W governor or a Taurus Judge. Or even the Colt Circuit Judge. Circit judge -> Taurus Judge ->
    The Beowulf ->
    I think it would be neat to add a 203 to it and a bayonet,as well.

    FYI the Taurus Judge is a useless weapon. It has a range of like 3 meters max...and even then your hitting with bird shot. You'd be better off carrying a 45 acp or some other caliber.
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