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    Thanks America for your alliance policies with Australia. This is one Thread Where I will drop my Cavallier approach to subject. My respect for the American Services cannot be measured in words. There have been Nations throughout History that have had Fighting Forces, good, bad, and indifferent. But what was achieved by America during the Second World War has never been completely understood or acknowledged by the rest of the World. Australia exists as a Nation of Free people today because Americans stopped the Japanese Advance in the battle of the Coral Sea and at Midway Island Chain. Now we are welcoming Americans again to ensure stability within our Region, including the Developing Nations to our North. Two Hundred Marines plus Support Units are now Billited in the Darwin area for six months training and familiarisation exercises. These forces are the spearhead of many more Marines plus exillary Units that will eventually be deployed in this Country. We all have to be on the ball. What is self evident, the World is shrinking by the virtue of improved communications and the ability of any Hostile Nation with Territorial ambitions to launch Missiles over long distances.

    Australia has many features, geographical, topographical, and stragical in locational capability and technological development. With adequate support from the United States this part of the World should remain at Peace for a long time to come. If this can be achieved, then Peace throughout the World is a very strong possibility.

    So welcome to the Americans from an Australian, ( and hopefully all Australians ), who understands the full meaning of the Alliance. westwind.


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    I'm getting nervous wondering how much that's costing in terms of tax dollars, but I'm glad some people are happy with the USA and its military actions right now.

    So, what's going on in your region of the world that makes the military presence important right now? Are the nearby countries starting to act threatening, or is it more subtle, like terror threats?


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    For kojax. Listen kojax, do you wan't me to start the third world war? I can't tell you that. It's Classified. Just Boy Scout stuff. I wish. Lets just say Someone has seen a need to take a Security interest in the developement of Northern Australia, like making a presence and making sure they keep themselves busy getting to know the inviroment. After all, we all need friends, I hope you are considering being my friend, kojax, who knows where that will lead? westwind.
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    So, what's going on in your region of the world that makes the military presence important right now? Are the nearby countries starting to act threatening, or is it more subtle, like terror threats?
    I'd say it's neither. On the other hand, it's a demonstration that the USA is closely involved "in the region".

    That would be translated from diplomat-speak into ordinary language as "Just looky over here, China. See, we're not as far away as you might have thought." Of course, when it comes to regional terrorism, there's always Indonesia's issues, but they're more related to non-government terrorist organisations operating within Indonesia. Not much anyone can do from outside apart from gentle diplomatic reminders and aid support for secular schools and economic development.
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    There's also North Korea to consider. Not the most stable of countries.
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    If North Korea were the intended audience, or a threat to Australia, wouldn't an increased presence of Marines in South Korea or Japan be more significant? So far i've been unable to find any stated purpose for the presence of Marines in Australia asides from training.
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    Yes, it does seem to be training, and US Marines have been training in Australia for many years. Here is a snippet, from the web site of the US Marines, regarding training in Australia last year.

    http://www.marines.mil/unit/13thmeu/...x#.T4Feau0qPJw
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    Is the Australian outback anything like the terrain found in Afghanistan? I wonder if that's what they're really using the opportunity for?
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    Dear kojax. I'm positive that the current deployment of attachments from the US Marines has little to do with the committment( s ) we have in Afghanistan. Training and familiarisation with the Terrain in Northern Australia will be an ongoing programme, with an eventual build up to a useful combatant strength of approx: 2000 plus personnel. Regarding the actual on ground conditions in Australias north, conditions are Seasonal. A Monsoon arrives early December and makes conditions similar to the Everglades in Eastern US, except we have man-eating crocodiles lurking about looking for unsuspecting American Marines. When the Summer arrives, May, it gets very warm, humid, sweltering, energy sapping, white mans grave. No, kojax, very few potential invaders are likely to use our front door to invade Australia, and if they try to come in the Back door past my place, my wife will take care of them.
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    Is the Australian outback anything like the terrain found in Afghanistan? I wonder if that's what they're really using the opportunity for?
    Nuh. Especially not near Darwin. Darwin is a kind of tropical seasonal desert - if that makes any sense. Really, really dry and moderate temperatures in winter, hot and humid in summer with afternoon storms daily.

    Australia is the driest, flattest, inhabited continent in the world. Afghanistan might be dry and dusty, but it's mountainous and cold. Darwin offers neither cold nor mountains.
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    There have been some Afghanistan related training exercises done in South Australia, but that's been mostly on clearing compounds/villages. From what i have heard from a mate most of the focus in pre-deployment training seems to be on IED detection. (Rather than on manoeuvres in Afghan Terrain)
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    Dear Forum posters to this Thread. In todays AUSTRALIAN newspaper, ( Thursday,12 th April, 2012 ), an ex Military correspondent warns of cuddling up to the US to the exclusion of Regional neighbours. Indonesia, China. Australia has strong Economic commitments to these Nations. Any falling out because of our warm relations with the US would be very damaging to the Australian Economy, at least in the short term. So China is well aware of American Forces deployed to Australia and will let Australia know that we have to be aware of the consequences of such liasion. If it comes down to a survival mode because of the need to obtain Resources, or if Political Upheaval necessitates diversional tatics, then I guess we would be in the firing line anyway.So threats are postulated as tactics in the game of world pushing and shoving. Personally, I like the Chinese people. They are a big part of Australias History, and for my part I wecome settlers from the Chinese mainland, I find them great Family people and very industrious, and Humble at the same time. westwind.
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    Why would China care about marines in Australia or our military ties with the US? So long as they're getting the resources and aren't planning to invade then there's no threat from the US military. Just more media scaremongering.
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    Maybe Australia is supplying resources to suspicious nations without realising the consequences and they need a head's up? Maybe Australia has become a suspicious nation through their liberal antics? It's a scoreboard, right? Read the writing. The marines are walking that turf. You supply energy to key nations that use satellite nations that point weapons at you. Very short term with that type of buyer discipline.
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