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    This suit is awesome check it out. There is a video as well of the suit in action http://newweapontechnology.blogspot.com/


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    It's pretty sweet.

    If it were mine, though, I would just use wires to mimic "muscles" and joints on a "skeleton". It would diminish the weight weight a little.


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    i had previously seen the video used on your link, but at a different site. the capabilities of the suit really impressed me. And I disagree with the site that posted the 50 year estimate on an enclosed version. considering the ability of the suit to repetatively lift in excess of a hundred pounds, I can see us building a larger version of the exoskeleton, adding large metalic plate armor, connected at joints by thick sheets of kevlar, add an enclosed helmet, some bullet-proof glass, and the mech is born.

    this basic mech really isn't useful but for one thing, and it is one thing we have failed at in the past two wars. and that is fighting against guerilla infantry. An IED is one thing, it would probably kill or seriously injure the person in the mech. however, five or six men with AK-47s would witness their bullets bouncing off layers of armor designed to be impervious to small arms. And, as they realize the futility of their efforts, the mech's slightly larger size and mechanically enhanced legs allow the operator to be upon them more rapidly than standard infantry(who couldn't try the tactic anyways). Once in close combat range, it's really all over. The small version can pick up and maneuver ammo canisters, the big version has large metal plates on the forearms, which when swung at any speed break bones and send bodies flying.

    the only consideration I have for it is energy storage. because of the energy required to run powerful motors in the legs and arms, the system is currently suspended on a cable and along the same line as the cable is hooked up to an external power supply. A backpack battery should be considered, however, there is a minimum size at which it is reasonable from a logistical perspective to power it in this way. if it turns out that the required battery to run such a suit for two hours straight is of an unreasonable size for the size of the mech, I really have no solution, it may need to be scrapped untill we get better battery technology.

    My final conclusion here goes equally for the armorless version. what's the point of your super suit if you can't walt too far away from the power socket with it.
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    Maybe it would be useful for bunker busting then? The enemy isn't going to want to use high explosive anti-tank rockets to defeat the armor in close quarters. Who knows? You might even get away with having a power cord indoors. Another interesting possibility could be non-lethal bunker busting. If the armor you fit onto it is really good enough to be impervious to small arms, maybe you could just walk right up and taze people? No worrying about human shields if it's just a shock.

    I think the downside is that it would be hard to get soldiers out of them when they fail. It's a suit, not a car, truck, or airplane. God help you if you get injured and can't get out of it.
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    I can see the design problem you are pointing out. it is currently a non issue because the suit is open, and thus easy to exit. if you let go of the hand-grip used to control it, the suit floats its arm at an easy to grab height and you can walk right out of it.

    if armor were encorporated on the other hand, it would be a menace getting either into or out of the suit. this is an additional size-dependant problem with the suit. a much larger suit would have enough room for a hatch that you can use to enter or exit the mech. however a small, anti-infantry purpose mech would be hard to engineer with easy entry as a goal.

    i would recommend in that case that the armor be modular. full body kevlar could be gotten into and out of like normal cloathing, however the person in the kevlar would be able to control the mechanical exoskeleton. for additional protection pieces of metalic armor would have to be fastened to the exoskeleton after the user was in the suit. A small iron man-esque briefcase able to unfold and wrap around a prospective pilot is no doubt beyond our present capabilities, but the mech would be feasible if it were put together much like a knight's armor was during the middle ages. This design however also has the drawback that the person must be in the suit, piloting it and using some of the battery while the armor is applied.

    the modular armor would be easily removable from the exoskeleton if the person was injured and had to be taken out. a more advanced mech could be built that had the ability to drop its armor and eject the pilot if given the internal command to do so, however such advances should be looked at in earnest only after a functioning original model is built.

    all in all i'm still pointing to the mobile battery not having enough charge to last as the main issue. A power cable could be looked at, but any guy with a bolt cutter could shut your exoskeleton off in that case.
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    As is, if affordable, it might by very handy for supply operations loading trucks etc.

    With some good battery power (which we don't have yet), this would have quite a few applications. I imagine a squad able to carry a 0.50 cal machine gun or Mk19 grenade launcher. Not too crazy about the armor idea. RPG's are a dime a dozen and this thing at close range would be a vulnerable target no matter how well it's armored (IMHO we wear too much armor already). There's also a lot of terrain this couldn't be used. We would have had to leave it behind on about half our dismounted patrols in Southern Iraq because we frequently had to cross canals filled with water. Other questions as well. Can it run? It's pretty impressive though and shows we're getting closer to practical applications.
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    I'm thinking they would have adjustable springs in the legs (and maybe in the arms too), so you could change the tightness on the springs. For example, you could set the tightness so that the default position of the legs is a standing position, but you have to exert energy fighting against the springs in order to crouch. In that event, moving/walking would still cost energy, but standing wouldn't. The suit could stand there all day without using any energy. If there were similar springs in the arms, perhaps it could even hold a weapon at level all day long, but then it would have to exert energy if it wanted to move it away from level, like to lower its weapon toward the ground, or raise it toward the sky.

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    the modular armor would be easily removable from the exoskeleton if the person was injured and had to be taken out. a more advanced mech could be built that had the ability to drop its armor and eject the pilot if given the internal command to do so, however such advances should be looked at in earnest only after a functioning original model is built.
    Yeah. It should have a way to jettison the armor if the guy needs to get out. Maybe even use explosive charges to fully fling the armor away?


    all in all i'm still pointing to the mobile battery not having enough charge to last as the main issue. A power cable could be looked at, but any guy with a bolt cutter could shut your exoskeleton off in that case.
    If you were using it to bust a bunker, then probably the way you'd deploy it, there would always be someone behind the suit to guard the cable. I'm thinking you'd just use the suit to enter doorways, so ordinary soldiers could come in behind it after the room is clear. That's probably where it has the most advantage to offer, because doorway entry is really hard when the enemy knows you're coming. I mean, I haven't been in combat myself or anything, so I don't know that for sure, but I remember Khukri mentioned something about that part being the difficult part in the thread about using dogs to storm bunkers.

    Once the hallway behind that door is secure, you could always leave a few guys behind to guard the entry team's back, and they'd watch the cable.
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