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    Hi, does anybody know any article about the lasers in the satellites launched by NASA?


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    If there are any lasers in NASA satellites (which seems pretty unlikely) they are surely secret.


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    both the US and the USSR currently have laser satellites that are used to disrupt communications and destroy objects with the power of infrared!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the man of science
    both the US and the USSR currently have laser satellites that are used to disrupt communications and destroy objects with the power of infrared!
    If you want some real facts from all this, try the following, When the USSR heard that 'star wars' had been funded, the Soviets decided to counter this in two ways, the first was to launch 'sacks of sand' into an east to west orbit (which is opposite the US west to east orbit. they then planned to explode these sacks in space and create billions/trillions of micrometeorites. THese specs of sand would have a closing speed of twice orbital velocity with the American satellites. THe developement cost an time was almost zero...

    THe result is that neither side is likely to waste their cash on weapons that will not work.

    THere are some lasers in satellites but these are used for ranging/imaging/and positioning.
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    Yeah I know that but the military is also planning to make a satellite related weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the man of science
    Yeah I know that but the military is also planning to make a satellite related weapon.
    Future deployment.

    Quote Originally Posted by the man of science
    both the US and the USSR currently have laser satellites that are used to disrupt communications and destroy objects with the power of infrared!
    Present deployment.

    Which is it, present or future? It cannot be both. Either way could you give some links to articles that confirm your claim?
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    Yeah I know that but the deployment of satellites currently are still prototypes and so they don't have widespread and official deployment. Satellites currently can take out communications and SOME objects but not all. That is coming later.

    As for sources my uncle is one.

    That's the military's use of laser ranging.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_laser_ranging

    This article discusses how China has used lasers to destroy satellites.

    http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002794.html

    The laser satellites I read about in an issue of Popular Science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the man of science
    Yeah I know that but the deployment of satellites currently are still prototypes and so they don't have widespread and official deployment. Satellites currently can take out communications and SOME objects but not all. That is coming later.
    Source for these claims please.
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    Just put the sources up Galt. Read the post before your most recent one.
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    I'm sorry, I said yesterday I was going to stop doing this, but your slapdash, amateurish approach is making a nonsense of this forum.

    Your initial posts make a definitive statement:
    US and the USSR currently have laser satellites that are used to disrupt communications and destroy objects with the power of infrared!

    You then offer up links that discuss laser ranging, which no one is questioning, and ground based lasers, which no one is questioning. What bloody relevance do those two things have to your initial claim?

    You'll excuse me if I have zero confidence in what you allege to have read in Popular Science. Based upon your track record here the article was probably a discussion of the role of cabbages in preventing goose migration.
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    SHUT UP! I am so sick of you griping and bitching like this. Track record my ass. It is correct, I am correct, and you still haven't been able to prove that I am wrong or unintelligent. Galt I know tons more than you about everything and I think its pathetic how you are so jealous. This is my last warning. Stop bitching or I am out of here.
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    Using a laser from space to attack somebody would probably be impractical. Using it to disrupt communications is just as easy as using it to communicate. Range finding is both a more credible civilian application, and a more useful military application.
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    Man of Science, if you say things like 'the military is building/planning this or that' then give a source otherwise you should say "I believe they are doing this or that" as to your being 'knowledgeable' in this field, I suggest your knowedge runs counter to others. Any of you who think lasers can be used to kill over distances of more than a few metres have no understanding of lasers whatsoever. In order to 'modify' matter (ie cut, melt etc) you need to be no more than a few centimetres away from your target if you are using conventional lasers. And as I said earlier, lasers are really easy to defeat, take a high power helium neon laser and shine it through a line of coloured baloons, the green ones might burst but the red ones won't....
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    Quote Originally Posted by the man of science
    This is my last warning. Stop bitching or I am out of here.
    I know it's none of my business, but I thought I might add: Not many people would be sad to see you leave. Except me. Reading your posts has been one of the most entertaining parts of my afternoon.

    As for lasers that destroy things with heat - I may be wrong but the energy required for this would be too much for a satellite's solar panels to provide.
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    yeah, basicly satilite weaponry is in effective. it's so easy for it to get knoked out of allignment, or as the russians have already found out, space debris is extreamly deadly to any thing important in space.

    as for the weaponization of space. i do tihnk it is technically against the UN's codes. ( i personaly think the UN can _____ them selves.... :wink: )


    but i do know of strato air bases. large manuverable space planes that fly in the outer most orbits of the earth just out side the atmosphere. they ahve been predicted to be the next level space weaponry, as it would take another strato base to take it down. (missiles dont have the oxegen to be launched that high up, and the base can move out of the way of debris clouds.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scifor Refugee
    If there are any lasers in NASA satellites (which seems pretty unlikely) they are surely secret.
    I worked on a particle beam weapon back
    in 1984. So I don't think they would be sending
    just lasers up in satellites. If there is a working
    system today up there somewhere, it will be
    particle beam NOT laser. Taking into account
    that this is the military tech section.
    GONE ON A LONG WALK
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    im not sure how particle beams work but either way, they'd have to have enormas power sources just to penetrate the atmosphere. you'd have to keep it secret cause if any one knew about them they could easily take it out.

    i just dont see satilite lazers as a fesable military weapon. it's not cost effective, and it's only weaponizable if you can supply lots of energy to it. we'd be talking something the size of the nasa spacestation.
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    if there are satilite weaps then they would be one of the best forms of weaps.

    also

    "The U.S. Congress banned anti-satellite weapons testing for ten years in 1985, fearing it may spark an arms race. After this ban expired, the U.S. Army gained approval for testing from President Clinton in order to "develop countermeasures" in case American satellites are targeted. On October 21, 1997 the U.S. military tested an anti-satellite laser called the Mid-Infrared Advanced Chemical Laser (MIACL). This TRW laser has been around since the 1980s, a left over from Reagan's "Star Wars" research programs."
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