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    Has anyone else seen this
    www.moller.com
    Supposedly by the end of 2008 they will have flying cars on the market.
    If you have $995,000 that is(only for the first 20 of them).


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    Yeah, the Moller flying thingamagig has been known of for a while. At least five years, if not more.

    Last time I checked in, they were still having problems with range, capacity, noise, and the big issue: where do you land the thing.

    Be that as it may, I wouldn't consider this a "flying car." In my opinion it's merely an airplane in a different configuration. Same principles. I can buy a private helicopter now for less than that, and do pretty much the same things.

    Not that I want to balk the project...but paint a pig purple...it's still a pig.


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    haha
    That's a good aphorism.
    And as for landing it's got VTOL now. And by the specs on the site they've got a fairly good range and what not. I think it said at cruising speed it produces about 65 decibles. I'm not big into the science of sound waves though so I'm not entirely sure how loud that would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimension
    haha
    That's a good aphorism.
    And as for landing it's got VTOL now. And by the specs on the site they've got a fairly good range and what not. I think it said at cruising speed it produces about 65 decibles. I'm not big into the science of sound waves though so I'm not entirely sure how loud that would be.
    65 decibels? That's much too quiet. It must be a quote of the in-cabin noise, not external vehicle noise. Otherwise you'd be able to have a conversation while standing next to this thing, without raising your voice.

    As for VTOL, I'm aware of that, but it still doesn't answer where it's gonna take off and land from. Okay, so maybe after buying a million dollar airplane I'd have built my own hanger and landing pad at my house...but that still doesn't explain how I use it for anything except airport jumping, and the possible city high-rise helicopter pad. Try to land that thing at the mall, or at a restaurant, or at the average office.

    Not to mention that I'd bet the airway traffic commission hasn't penned in new laws governing flying cars, so you'd probably have to keep to defined airways. That would mean you can't fly or land it anywhere even a normal helicopter could fly or land.

    I'm not trying to be pessimistic. I'm just pointing out there's got to be a lot of work before even a fully-functioning Moller...airplane...fulfills the idea of a flying car. :?
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    Point taken
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    oh i remember seeing pictures of this way back when... around 1997 i think.
    michael jackson had ordered one it wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejawolf
    michael jackson had ordered one it wrote.
    If you put sparkles on it and said it would change the world, MJ would buy it.

    You could sell MJ a nuclear warhead if you promised it dropped a care-bear on the corpses afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejawolf
    oh i remember seeing pictures of this way back when... around 1997 i think.
    michael jackson had ordered one it wrote.
    That's the ultimate crap-detector. Anything with the Jackson seal of approval has already earned my contempt.
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    Who brought this thread back from the necropolis?

    Anywho, the day of the flying car will be scary. Imagine two idiots with coffee in one hand and cell in the other, having a collision above yer house/office/etc.

    Not to mention the world is already tooled for ground transportation. There simply isn't the space, infrastructure, or provision, for widespread (or even pocketed) personal air transportation in the form of flying cars. Even if a miracle happened and the fully-working flying car appeared in driveways across the globe tomorrow, it would be a disaster.
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    Imagine two idiots with coffee in one hand and cell in the other, having a collision above yer house/office/etc.
    Agree, fortunetly this is a problem that can be solved; Modern avionics, and an updated airway control infrastructure...

    Simply remove the human driver/pilot from the equation. This technology already exists today. Noted, it is also one of the most costly components on an aircraft.

    Afortable personal aircraft (aka "flying cars"), are still a ways off, even if a new radical form of propulsion and/or lift is devised.
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    I think you'll still find it's a disaster waiting to happen. Apart from malfunctions, weather, technical glitches, etc, you can't rule out the abilities of the human inside. Humans have shown a surprising ability for survival, but also a surprising ability to snuff themselves, too.

    Plus you'd still have the infrastructure problem. Just because we can get a flying car up in the air, and fly it automatically to a destination, doesn't mean we can do much with it at points A and B.

    It would be better, at least in this point in time, to focus on developing better systems of long-distance mass transportation. We need to find a way to get large numbers of people to and from places, without relying on a personal vehicle so much. Unfortunately, in a country like the US, there's a lot of distance and a lot of people to deal with, plus there's very little infrastructure outside of cities for mass transit. Except for buses, most towns and suburbs don't have trains, subways, canals, etc.
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    What is the purpose of a flying car? There are cars and there are helicopters. I'm not going to spend a half million on a flying machine and then use it to drive to Walmart anymore than I'm going to take a thousand dollar suit and use it to mop up the spilled beer on the floor.

    If I want to drive to Walmart I'll buy a 15 thousand dollar car and if I want to mop up the beer, a piece of paper from a $1 roll. I'm not going to 'drive around' a half milion dollar machine...the insurance alone would buy a couple new cars.
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    Ok so flying cars will now be thrown into the scrap bin along with space elevators, hawking radiation, and telekinesis
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    Hawking radiation?
    what was wrong with that. Maybe I'm a little outdated, but I thought that that was real.
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    Not real just prof Hawking tweaking the maths....
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    I drove a flying car once, except it did not have the right landing gear........... !
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    Hi Wolf
    I spent a lot of time trying to make a vertical take off type of ski (twice as cheap as a helicopter to run) with the motor at the front so when the front of the ski raised up the propeller stayed horizontal but as I was not quick enough with the radio control it kept tipping over backwards then I read that only 2% of our destinations can be accessed by air I designed Parrahub (in your search engine) for trans city commuting.
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