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  1. #1 Why cant this work? 
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    Hi, not sure which section to put this in, but I have 2 ideas for an engine design that I can't see why they wont work, but I'm very well aware that they wont work. lol, I'll present them here:

    Idea #1:

    Magnetic engine:
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    Cylinder block, conrods, crankshaft, sump, oiling system, flywheel and harmonic balancer are all conventional items. Each Piston is made of a magnetic material, and an individual cylinder head is fitted to each cylinder. The cylinder head is a Large electromagnet, Pulsed on and off by means of a computer/ecu. This pulsing attracts and repels the pistons, causing the pistons to move up and down in a manner similar to a conventional engine. The electromagnets are powered by a large battery which is kept charged by a heavy duty, truck type alternator or similar.

    Idea #2

    Spinning Top designed engine.
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    This pretty much only applies to single cylinder engines; eg, a lawnmower.

    The majority of the engine is designed as per a conventional engine, 4 stroke, 2 stroke, or even Diesel doesnt matter. The difference is, the connecting rod is shaped like a corkscrew, and it's up and down movement causes the rotation of a disc, much like a spinning top, except signifigantly faster. Attatched to this disc could be any number of different attatchments, such as blades (for example, in a lawnmower) or even a crownwheel and pinion type device to change the direction of rotation so it could turn a shaft to turn wheels.

    Those are my ideas, they wont work, but WHY? lol

    Cheers, Gab


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    If Idea #1 is supposed to be a perpetual motion machine where the alternator charges the battery and it keeps running forever, the reason it won't work is the conservation of energy principle. The engine will use more power than it produces, just to keep the battery charged.

    Idea #2 might work, but I don't exactly see how the corkscrew is making the disc rotate. What do you think the advantage would be over any other kind of engine with a drive shaft?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    If Idea #1 is supposed to be a perpetual motion machine where the alternator charges the battery and it keeps running forever, the reason it won't work is the conservation of energy principle. The engine will use more power than it produces, just to keep the battery charged.

    Idea #2 might work, but I don't exactly see how the corkscrew is making the disc rotate. What do you think the advantage would be over any other kind of engine with a drive shaft?


    Idea #1 is not supposed to be a perpetual motion machine, as I'm well aware perpetual motion cant work. What I was thinking was more along the lines of an electric vehicle that has a range. Perhaps it could also be charged from a solar panel or plugged into the grid?

    As for idea #2, the disc is like the spinning body of the spinning top.

    Cheers, Gab
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