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    Hey people

    Im getting really sick of using Excel for writing my math assignments. Generally because of not being able to write expressions properly.

    Is there any free software (preferably opensource) thats dedicated for this? It needs to be halfway text editor, with tables and such, and then with the ability to write all the mathematical functions correctly.

    Im sick of writing 3 over 5, as 3/5

    Hope you can help
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    search for a math program on google


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    Look into LaTeX. A windows implementation that will get you started:

    http://www.miktex.org/
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    Thank you very much. Startet downloading now, gonna try when im back with cigarettes. You use that one yourself Shmoe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voursez
    Thank you very much. Startet downloading now, gonna try when im back with cigarettes. You use that one yourself Shmoe?
    I hope you are aware this is a NO SMOKING forum! Everytime somebody 'lights up' on this forum Fireman Ophie turns up and puts the dampers on them.... 8)
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    Okay okay, ill smoke outside then..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voursez
    Thank you very much. Startet downloading now, gonna try when im back with cigarettes. You use that one yourself Shmoe?
    Yes I use LaTeX, it's pretty much the standard in mathematics, you'll find many textbooks are typeset using latex. I mostly use linux when latexing as that's what we have at school, but I managed to get miktex working at home on windows awhile back without much effort (I use linux at home now as well). There are many programs to make you typing easier, like texniccenter and "what you see is what you mean" programs like LyX, but I usually stick with a basic text editor (notpad in windows, emacs in linux).

    There are plenty of free manuals and other resource material on the web to be had.
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    This latex tutorial you may find handy.

    http://www.tug.org.in/tutorials.html
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    I use the texlive distribution and winedt for my work, viva latex and knuth
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    Okay, i tried Miktex, but it got too confusing. I dont mind typing, im a webdesigner, but i think i need to start with something easier. Just downloaded LyX, and gonna try it.

    You know any other graphical UI software? They dont have to be free, guess ill have to lower my requirements a bit :P

    Thanks for the help so far at least
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    Jesus Christ, i give up..
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    Voursez,
    Before you give up entirely, you may try to download the AAS package from here:

    http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AAS/AASTeX/

    You'll also find sme helpful examples and info there.

    Another 'trick of the trade' is to find a paper you like on this site
    http://xxx.lanl.gov/
    and do two things; download the pdf or ps file and also the source. You can find the source under 'other formats'. Then just compare the two. If you do this with enough papers, you should be able to wade through what you want to do.

    If you can put Linux on your computer, it may be worthwile.

    And yes... there is a large learning curve.

    I suppose an alternative is 'Microsoft equation editor', but Latex is the standard in the scientific community.

    And if you want to spend some $, there is a program called 'scientific notebook/workplace/etc.' that implicitly used Latex.

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    Latex is well worth the initial effort to get started. The learning curve for basic functionality isn't that bad, typing up your assignments should be relatively easy and the results are superior to anything else out there. Grab some examples as william suggested and go to town.

    I've never tried lyx, but I did try tecniccenter. It seemed decent enough, it makes the basic commands gui based and had buttons to click for the more common symbols and structures (though I don't usually find that any faster than just typing in the syntax). I haven't used it in sometime though.
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    There is also the "Mathematica" program wich sounds good...
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    Mathematica is not even close to free.
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    william already mentioned Microsoft Equation Editor which you'll already have if you have word, and that's pretty easy to get to grips with. But, like everyone else is saying, it'll probably do you well to learn LaTeX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shmoe
    Mathematica is not even close to free.
    Ohh, oops, sory, I did not take that into account.




    So you guys need to type equations on the computer?

    What grade are you in?
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    Okay, i had to learn some Latex. Im not good at it, not even close, but at least im learning. I still get confused every 5 minutes. Thanks for the help though, never would have heard of Latex, if it werent for you guys ^^

    Leap: Not anything advanced, HF = Higher preparation exam. And what do i prepare for? "Datamatiker", which is basically a programmer. Mainly applications, but i hope to get into games at some point.
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    Hey, you might get famous and donate 1M$ to this forum!

    Who knows, good luck!
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