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  1. #1 A Mathematical Definition Of Information and Language? 
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    Is there a mathematically acceptable definition of information and language? Is it possible to classify Sanford's genomic degeneration theorem as being mathematical?
    http://everythingimportant.org/genome.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shubee
    Is there a mathematically acceptable definition of information and language? Is it possible to classify Sanford's genomic degeneration theorem as being mathematical?
    http://everythingimportant.org/genome.pdf
    yes http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/ms/what/s...day/paper.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRocket
    Why?

    Why not?
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    Why what?

    Also, what kind of languages are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiMaster
    What kind of languages are you talking about?
    If information has a mathematical definition, then I would expect that the existence of information implies an associated language. How can information be expressed without a language?
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    That's because you are trying to use the intuitive definition of information, which doesn't really work. Basically, don't confuse information with meaning. (Also note that there is meaning in shaking your head, or looking a certain direction at the right time, and we don't generally consider those things language.)
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