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  1. #1 could it be posible to percieve 4d? 
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    first look with both eyes, then look with one eye closed, whats the difference?actually none

    then why in 3d movies you have different perception depending on weather you look with just one eye or two?

    then as you can build 3d in 2d, in a paper you can draw a cube which have volume 3d

    then if we are in a world where you can percive 3d, as watching a 3d movie it would be a matter of finding a figure to represent with a perspective trich the 4d

    maybe this or who knows:



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    http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/jmac/cl/tb4d.htm

    Banchoff has to my personal knowledge been involved in systems for visualization of 4 manifolds for at least 35 years. He has developed computer models for showing 3-dimensional slices of 4-manifolds, with a "joy stick" to "fly through" the 4-manifold.


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    here a better depiction of what i mean:

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    i found this interesting idea:

    3d within 3d

    could you get to percieve the 4th dimension like this?

    http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2107
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    Quote Originally Posted by luxtpm
    i found this interesting idea:

    3d within 3d

    could you get to percieve the 4th dimension like this?

    http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2107
    no
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    I always thought that 4D in a 3D area was time. I would consider watching Avatar in 3D a 4D experience. But then, you are obviously looking at theory into another dimension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
    I always thought that 4D in a 3D area was time. I would consider watching Avatar in 3D a 4D experience. But then, you are obviously looking at theory into another dimension.
    That is the case in relativity.

    But in mathematics the concept of dimension is broader, much broader.

    Mathematicians study objects of arbitrary dimension, and in the case of function spaces for instance, of infinite dimension.

    There is even a branch of topology that studies infinite dimensional structures, such as the countable product of the unit interval [0,1] (the Hilbert Cube) and the countable product of lines. It is a deep theorem that the countable product of lines is homeomorphic to a separable Hilbert space.

    Thomas Banchoff (see earlier link) at Brown University has done work wth computer graphics that allows one to use a joy stick and "fly through" 4-dimensional manifolds while seeing a screen that shows pictures of 3-dimensional slices. He can put on quite a show.
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    you are overlooking this:

    "This remembers me the jukebox at Prey, which has a screen showing side-by-side 3d content. Someone at the deceased z800 forum said it. He was playing prey in 3d, then tried going crosseyed to view that jukebox screen and worked! 3d within 3d"

    maybe you were expecting 4th and 5th D awesome maybe theyre not, but in fact id say this guy i just quote was the first human being to have a fithdimensional percpetion

    in a flat surface he experienced a world with true depth, a 3rd d expereience

    in that world he percieved a flat surface in which he got to apreciate depth again

    how far can you go on extra dimensions like this?

    a depth in which you take a flat surface and add it extradepth, you can go on like this forever
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