1. Help me.

Cause of indefinible reason,i'm sure real possibility of PI defining from algebra ist.
Sure like sun's hot or time flows.
I know how a circle is made. From center all equidistancts points belong to.
Define this like a figure descripted in "area" equal one.
Define a square like a figure descripted in "area" equal one.
Allow this 2 figures poxès force. (like magnetical or gravitational kind)
Make a cube of any "volume" you like to attribute to but less big of 2 figures.
Let this cube stay over two figures distanced from center of them the same. Allow this cube draw force of kind same of 2 figures.
I know it is possible calculate the interaction from them descripted by weight...(a kind of force is descripted)
If we know how fileds forces work and are located in space,extract difference of weight and formulate a formula this fucking circle is made.

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3. I'd love to help you if I am able to, but I don't really understand what you are saying.

4. Fortunatly matematiks at Trieste's University think there is a solution

5. Originally Posted by clearwar
Fortunatly matematiks at Trieste's University think there is a solution
A solution to what ? You have not proposed a problem.

6. Originally Posted by clearwar
Help me.

Cause of indefinible reason,i'm sure real possibility of PI defining from algebra ist.
Sure like sun's hot or time flows.
I know how a circle is made. From center all equidistancts points belong to.
Define this like a figure descripted in "area" equal one.
Define a square like a figure descripted in "area" equal one.
Allow this 2 figures poxès force. (like magnetical or gravitational kind)
Make a cube of any "volume" you like to attribute to but less big of 2 figures.
Let this cube stay over two figures distanced from center of them the same. Allow this cube draw force of kind same of 2 figures.
I know it is possible calculate the interaction from them descripted by weight...(a kind of force is descripted)
If we know how fileds forces work and are located in space,extract difference of weight and formulate a formula this fucking circle is made.

I’m guessing you used a translator for your post? :?

Gabriele, is Italian your first language? (You mention Trieste so I’m guessing you are Italian (plus your name is an Italian one).) Don’t use any translator; instead try and post in Italian. I’m not a bad amateur linguist myself so I believe I might be able to help you translate your post. :-D

7. Rispondero volentieri anch'io.

8. Calcolare geometricamente l'area di un cerchio
How to solve geometrically the area of a circle.

Fill a buket with blue color. Give it a weight.
Render a surface of a circle from center through an hole.
Extract the weight of the paint you used.
Render a surface of a square with the same paint and extract the weight.
In the end you will reach a relationship from two numbers that describe the relationship at point from the square, and a circle.

9. Originally Posted by clearwar
Calcolare geometricamente l'area di un cerchio
How to solve geometrically the area of a circle.

Fill a buket with blue color. Give it a weight.
Render a surface of a circle from center through an hole.
Extract the weight of the paint you used.
Render a surface of a square with the same paint and extract the weight.
In the end you will reach a relationship from two numbers that describe the relationship at point from the square, and a circle.

The area of a circle is and the area of a square is so the ratio of the length of a side of the square to the radius of a circle of equal area is .

Is that what you are asking?

10. No

11. Originally Posted by Harold14370
Originally Posted by clearwar
Calcolare geometricamente l'area di un cerchio
How to solve geometrically the area of a circle.

Fill a buket with blue color. Give it a weight.
Render a surface of a circle from center through an hole.
Extract the weight of the paint you used.
Render a surface of a square with the same paint and extract the weight.
In the end you will reach a relationship from two numbers that describe the relationship at point from the square, and a circle.

The area of a circle is and the area of a square is so the ratio of the length of a side of the square to the radius of a circle of equal area is .

Is that what you are asking?
So if you wanted to make a circle of the same area as a known square you could just divide the length of one side of the square, by the square root of pi 1.772453850905516027298167483341 And you would get the radius of the circle with equal area.

Pretty cool.

Didn't some guy Kent work out a lot of ratios for circles and squares. Or am I just hallucinating?

Sincerely,

William McCormick

12. I found

13. Originally Posted by clearwar
I found
And what was the problem to begin with?

14. is there a real finite number ,that multiplyed for itself and for 2,that under squareroot give a real finite number?

15. Originally Posted by clearwar
is there a real finite number ,that multiplyed for itself and for 2,that under squareroot give a real finite number?
You mean a real finite number such that is also a real finite number?

Yes. In fact, all real finite numbers have this property.

If you mean, is there an such that , then the answer is still yes, but there is only one such value: .

16. You have centered the sign ovviously...

Does it mean O is the only value able to soddisfy that equation?

It is strange...

Doesn't exixt any other value? like 2.32 or similar equations?

17. perhaps you meant Y = x sqrt(2).
I mean that to consider possibility to extract root of root of two

18. root(2) and 1/3 root(2)...
how can i get a square from that dimensions maintaining a directal proportionality? (such like 3 and 1 become 2 and 2,or 7 and 1 become 4 and 4)

19. Originally Posted by clearwar
root(2) and 1/3 root(2)...
how can i get a square from that dimensions maintaining a directal proportionality? (such like 3 and 1 become 2 and 2,or 7 and 1 become 4 and 4)
but your English is really difficult to understand.

Please write in a language which you know well.

I can read Polish, French, Italian, Russian and German.

20. Ok you're right

give me a couple of days and i will post you what i found...

21. Near 3.14

22. First 2/9 ...then 1/2/9 ...then 5/18*1/2/9 ...then 4/5/18*1/2/9

Does anybody appreciate my reduction?

23.

24. So if we consider for example 2/9 like 0.21777777... (0.22 periodic) we obtain a value of defined as 3,135999888.

And if we consider for example 2/9 like 0.2181111...(0.22 periodic or 2/9) we obtain a value of defined as 3,14079984...

25. Originally Posted by clearwar
You have centered the sign ovviously...

Does it mean O is the only value able to soddisfy that equation?

It is strange...

Doesn't exixt any other value? like 2.32 or similar equations?

26. I immagined that formula to be able to extract part of a circle[. Than i solved otherway...

27. After eat near 13 pills of sonnifer,i will describe certantly a round in hell. See you

28. Originally Posted by clearwar
I hate to say it, but this is really all I understood out of all of your posts.

29. Dammn,i'm still alive.

try to do this:

is the same of

30. Sorry, I still don't get it.

First, I'll assume you mean and not since they are 2 different things.

Second,

Sorry, but none of this is debatable. Just because the Indiana Pi Bill tried to say otherwise, doesn't make it so.

By the way, is a much better approximation, but it's still just that; an approximation.

31. My friend,i will answer you tomorrow,now i'm so cocked i cant write normaly.

32. Originally Posted by MagiMaster
Sorry, but none of this is debatable. Just because the Indiana Pi Bill tried to say otherwise, doesn't make it so.
You're just another sorry loser of a conservative trying to arrest progress. But you and the likes of you will never prevail. This is the twenty-first century, not ancient Greece! The circle will be squared, and the cube doubled, and the angle trisected, because modern times demand that it be done. No decrepit high school math teacher can stop it.

Is this clear enough, nerd?

33. All I can say is, I hope you're joking.

34. Originally Posted by MagiMaster
All I can say is, I hope you're joking.

35. I was pretty sure you were, but it doesn't always translate to text very well.

36. I have a history of impersonating - caricaturing - positions I am violently opposed to. In this case, I was having a bone to pick with some people who claim any principle can be rejected simply because the date on the calendar is different from yesterday.

For record: I, Leszek Luchowski, do earnestly consider to be a transcendental number, the exact value of which cannot be accurately represented by a ratio and/or sum of integers or any finite combination of such ratios and/or sums. And I do think some truths did not change with the introduction of FM radio. Or even the iPod.

37. If you consider the fraction 2/9 like an approximation of 0.2periodic in 0.2181661564992909722 you will obtain exactly 3.14159265358979...

The formula isn't invalidated jet because you cannot consider "everything" like a sure thing,the certainty of to be or similars

38. I profoundly appreciate the audacity of considering the fraction as having two distinct values, differing by approximately 0.0004. You are introducing a whole new error into mathematics.

39. I'm only sayin 2/9 means 0.2p...nothing else

40. Originally Posted by clearwar
I'm only sayin 2/9 means 0.2p...nothing else
It surely does, but then what was that about 0.21777777 and 0.2181111 ?

41. Now I have a lot of chaos in the head i can't exprime myself propherly.

Bye

42. Replace by , and you get something much more understandable.

Substituting gives 3.2 again. Solving gives , which is 0.21816615649929119711546134606108... (still a trancendental number).

43. Originally Posted by clearwar
Now I have a lot of chaos in the head i can't exprime myself propherly.
A problem noticed is a problem half solved. Keep up the good work, we're all here to help you.

For starters, the Engish for s'exprimer is "to express oneself".

As you can tell me well like a sound like death can be called.
Can you recognise the soundtrack of that film?

I need that to conquer a girl. If you can touch melodies of relate i will be,jump on film. Anywhere i found a way to square the circle. Something like (Pi/4+x)=4/Pi...

Or if someone can extract first part of sound of the film in an mp3 file and send me at cito@email.it

:wink: :| :-D :? 8) :x :P :wink: :P

46. I probably did a mistake.

Now I found Pi equal to 4/[2-sqrt(0.5)]

CAUSE 4/Pi=Pi+Pi[2-sqrt(0.5)]

http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?i...mmaginerd3.jpg

47. so near

48. 22/7 is still a closer approximation.

49. Allow me to propose a daring conjecture: that, contrary to what we have been fooled into believing, the number 143759 can be halved within the set of integer numbers, without resorting to the dangerous, obscure, and undoubtedly perverted notion of "fractions".

Proof:

71870 + 71889 = 143759.

Considering the numbers 71870 and 71889 as equal (which they are, with a remarkable precision of 0.03%), we can regard them as two integer halves of 143759.

And I can propose an even better solution: 71875 and 71884, see?

Where are your "fractions" now? Who needed them in the first place, and how much money did this shameless scam fetch them?

50. like this [sqrt(2)+8]/3

51. Mod note: Unless someone can convince me by PM within the next 24h that this thread is worth continuing, I shall lock it. It looks to me like it's irrelevant to this sub-forum, and possibly even nonsense.