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  1. #1 Ken Miller and ID 
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    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/12...to_t.html#more


    I used to trust Ken Miller because he was the only evolutionist who did not bring religion into the debate. However, over time this trust has faded. I think his strategy will work in the short-run, but as the decades pass more and more people will realize that he and other evolutionists don't have a fin to stand on.


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    I trust Miller completely on his explanations of biology and evolution. I see no good reason to not accept that he's anything but spot on.

    In the end, however, he's still superstitious and, in spite of his opposition to nutjobs that populate the site you linked (i.e. the so-called "discovery" institute), he's ultimately in favor of 'intelligent' design. He just pushes back the 'designing moment' a few billion years before the average creationist nutter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    He just pushes back the 'designing moment' a few billion years before the average creationist nutter.
    If he claimed that he believed that God had nothing to do with the creation of life, I would think he was lying. If he said that science cannot tell us about what he understands to be God, I would think he was lying to himself. These quotes are my reasons for saying this:

    "Does that mean that scientific reason, by taking some of the mystery out of nature, has taken away faith? I don't think so. I think by revealing a world that is infinitely more complex and infinitely more varied and creative than we had ever believed before, in a way it deepens our faith and our appreciation for the author of that nature, the author of that physical universe. And to people of faith, that author is God." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/ev...evolution.html

    "I suggest that if God is real, we should be able to find him somewhere else—in the bright light of human knowledge, spiritual and scientific". http://www.templeton.org/belief/essays/miller.pdf

    It's possible that I don't understand what he is saying, and maybe he means something other than what he is saying. But telling us that he thinks that scientific reason has revealed a world that deepens appreciation for God, and that we should be able to find God in scientific knowledge, makes it rather difficult for me to believe that he is being consistent in his logic. If he does not believe that science can tell us about a designer then I wish he would say suggest that it can.
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