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    Hydrogen Fuel:
    As we know that the hydrogen is a best combustion gas. But can it be made possible to use it as a fuel in vehicles??? By electrolysis we can break the water into H2, is there any alternative way to break the water to H2 and O2 gas??? And what is about the compound Rubippy????? Please do help me to get the answers for my questions because i am doing my college project on hydro fuel.....


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    Fire from Salt Water

    The late John Kanzius found a way to burn salt water with the same radio wave machine he is using to kill cancer cells.
    Kanzius was testing his external radio-wave generator to see if it could desalinate salt water, and the water ignited. A university chemist determined that the process is generating hydrogen, which can be burned as fuel.

    While the phenomenon is interesting, it is not yet practical for energy generation as long as more energy is consumed by the radio frequency device than is produced for burning. Efficiency-wise, they started at around 76 percent of Faraday's theoretical limit. (Other Hydrogen-from-Water methods, such as the one being pursued by Bob Boyce, are approaching 7x Faraday).

    They subsequently quietly reported that they surpassed 100% efficiency, which would mean that the system is somehow harnessing environmental energy such as from the zero point or some other yet-to-be discovered phenomenon.
    Another problem to be overcome from burning salt water is the liberation of toxic chlorine (from the Cl of NaCl/salt).
    Kanzius said if someone wants to buy up the rights to the technology, that would be fine. He would use the funds to finance his quest to cure cancer.


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    >But can it be made possible to use it as a fuel in vehicles?

    Sure but it's difficult. It is far more dangerous to compress, store and use than other gaseous fuels (like methane) and the range you get per pound of fuel system is much lower.

    >By electrolysis we can break the water into H2, is there any alternative way to break the water to H2 and O2 gas?

    Thermal dissociation is probably the only practical means. We use high temperature gas reactors to dissociate water, then use the hydrogen as fuel.
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    Just produce hydrogen as you travel. Otherwise there's no build up of hydrogen except for some storage for starting up the vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    Just produce hydrogen as you travel.
    Is that a joke? I can never tell on the Internet.
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    Hydrogen fuel is an oversimplification like saying oil from the ground is fuel. Both in their raw form really suck as vehicle fuels.

    You wanna add carbon to the hydrogen, so it's methane (natural gas). This is way easier to ship, pipe, run through a car engine, or heat a house with. To be nice, take the carbon from the atmosphere so consuming the fuel is "carbon neutral".
    A pong by any other name is still a pong. -williampinn
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    Quote Originally Posted by billvon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    Just produce hydrogen as you travel.
    Is that a joke? I can never tell on the Internet.
    I'm afraid not. Cosmic has posted this before. He can't seem to grasp the laws of thermodynamics. If he keeps it up, he may find himself banned for a crank.
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