Notices
Results 1 to 34 of 34
Like Tree18Likes
  • 3 Post By Dywyddyr
  • 4 Post By Karsus
  • 5 Post By Strange
  • 1 Post By exchemist
  • 1 Post By exchemist
  • 1 Post By Strange
  • 1 Post By Dywyddyr
  • 2 Post By exchemist

Thread: 4th State of Water Discovered

  1. #1 4th State of Water Discovered 
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    9
    The existence of a new state of water has been proved/discovered according to a recently published research paper.

    The paper proves that the gaseous-like particles emanating from frozen water, ice, is completely different from vapor and as well is justified to be the 4th/new state of water.

    It further claim that a certain new form of force is responsible for its formation and motion.

    The paper titled "Gason: A New State of Water" published by American Journal of Science and Technology


    Reply With Quote  
     

  2.  
     

  3. #2  
    Forum Professor Daecon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    1,280
    Aren't there something like 16 different forms of water ice?


    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #3  
    Brassica oleracea Strange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    喫茶店
    Posts
    16,590
    Took a while to track this down: AASCIT - Journal - All Issues

    It doesn't look terribly credible but I don't really know enough to comment.
    Without wishing to overstate my case, everything in the observable universe definitely has its origins in Northamptonshire -- Alan Moore
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #4  
    exchemist
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,649
    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Took a while to track this down: AASCIT - Journal - All Issues

    It doesn't look terribly credible but I don't really know enough to comment.
    Thanks for the link. I've read it - it's quite short.

    I think it is an April Fool joke. There are some hilarious new terms invented in it but absolutely no evidence for this "gason" stuff at all.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #5  
    Genius Duck Moderator Dywyddyr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Scunthorpe, UK
    Posts
    10,821
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    I think it is an April Fool joke. There are some hilarious new terms invented in it but absolutely no evidence for this "gason" stuff at all.
    In a nutshell, the motion of gason is as a result of force, not heat. This force is termed ejibo. Therefore ejibo is the force responsible for the formation and motion of gason.
    Er, yeah, the guy's named this "force" after himself .
    Not sure it's meant as a joke, but it DOES emanate from Nigeria.
    Now, I may be accused of generalising, but isn't that the same place we got this little gem from: "Magnets prove homosexuality is unnatural"
    Howard Roark, exchemist and Daecon like this.
    "[Dywyddyr] makes a grumpy bastard like me seem like a happy go lucky scamp" - PhDemon
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #6  
    exchemist
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,649
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    I think it is an April Fool joke. There are some hilarious new terms invented in it but absolutely no evidence for this "gason" stuff at all.
    In a nutshell, the motion of gason is as a result of force, not heat. This force is termed ejibo. Therefore ejibo is the force responsible for the formation and motion of gason.
    Er, yeah, the guy's named this "force" after himself .
    Not sure it's meant as a joke, but it DOES emanate from Nigeria.
    Now, I may be accused of generalising, but isn't that the same place we got this little gem from: "Magnets prove homosexuality is unnatural"
    Hahah yes very good.

    I looked up the company these characters were said to work for and it does exist. It make candles, and also scented products for toilets, in Kaduna. I imagine it has a research staff of, er, two. These chaps dreamt up the concept after looking at the vapours arising from frozen fish, apparently. It's possibly the most bizarre "research" publication I have ever read. It is almost as if the writers intended it seriously and it is the journal that decided - with April 1st coming up - what the hell, let's give everyone a laugh, by accepting it.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #7  
    Moderator Moderator Cogito Ergo Sum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    2,507
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    I think it is an April Fool joke. There are some hilarious new terms invented in it but absolutely no evidence for this "gason" stuff at all.
    In a nutshell, the motion of gason is as a result of force, not heat. This force is termed ejibo. Therefore ejibo is the force responsible for the formation and motion of gason.
    Er, yeah, the guy's named this "force" after himself .
    Not sure it's meant as a joke, but it DOES emanate from Nigeria.
    Now, I may be accused of generalising, but isn't that the same place we got this little gem from: "Magnets prove homosexuality is unnatural"

    Whether or not it is a joke, the American Journal of Science and Technology is not listed by ScienceDirect, nor does Google Scholar yield any useful results.
    The only result leads to a paper published in IJETAE, which cites an article from the AJST, although the title does not appear in the issues and the paper from the former was published in August 2013, whilst AJST did not publish articles until March 2014.

    In summary, it has an unpleasant smell.
    Last edited by Cogito Ergo Sum; May 6th, 2014 at 08:01 AM.
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #8  
    Forum Professor Daecon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    1,280
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    I think it is an April Fool joke. There are some hilarious new terms invented in it but absolutely no evidence for this "gason" stuff at all.
    In a nutshell, the motion of gason is as a result of force, not heat. This force is termed ejibo. Therefore ejibo is the force responsible for the formation and motion of gason.
    Er, yeah, the guy's named this "force" after himself .
    Not sure it's meant as a joke, but it DOES emanate from Nigeria.
    Now, I may be accused of generalising, but isn't that the same place we got this little gem from: "Magnets prove homosexuality is unnatural"
    Gah, and just when I thought I'd purged that "article" from my memory.

    You owe me a bottle of brain bleach.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #9  
    exchemist
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,649
    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    I think it is an April Fool joke. There are some hilarious new terms invented in it but absolutely no evidence for this "gason" stuff at all.
    In a nutshell, the motion of gason is as a result of force, not heat. This force is termed ejibo. Therefore ejibo is the force responsible for the formation and motion of gason.
    Er, yeah, the guy's named this "force" after himself .
    Not sure it's meant as a joke, but it DOES emanate from Nigeria.
    Now, I may be accused of generalising, but isn't that the same place we got this little gem from: "Magnets prove homosexuality is unnatural"

    Whether or not it is a joke, the American Journal of Science and Technology is not listed by ScienceDirect, nor does Google Scholar yield any useful results.
    The only result leads to a paper published in IJETAE, which cites an article from the AJST, although the title does not appear in neither of the issues and the paper from the former was published in August 2013, whilst AJST did not publish articles until March 2014.

    In summary, it has an unpleasant smell.
    You're right! There seem to be NO named people forming an editorial board or anything and the AASCIT abbreviation seems designed to confuse with reputable organisations that do really exist.

    The whole thing seems to be fake. What's their scam, do you suppose?
    Reply With Quote  
     

  11. #10  
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    9
    Every new idea is not expected to be accepted immediately with open arms. The Journal might not be old enough, but every great Journal have a start.

    Forget the Author's Country or affiliations, do you think that water vapor and emanations from ice are the same?

    Science thrive in openness and objectivity.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  12. #11  
    Moderator Moderator Cogito Ergo Sum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    2,507
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    You're right! There seem to be NO named people forming an editorial board or anything and the AASCIT abbreviation seems designed to confuse with reputable organisations that do really exist.

    The whole thing seems to be fake. What's their scam, do you suppose?

    I suppose that, by setting up a journal that seems legitimate, authors will send their articles and manuscripts for publication and will make a payment (150 - 200 USD). The authors think they have made a genuine scientific contribution by publishing their article in a peer-reviewed journal, but they did nothing but pay for something useless. Given the fact that the journal "also owns and publishes 23 journals--the largest and most highly cited journal in the field", they can attract many authors for various articles.
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  13. #12  
    Forum Professor Daecon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    1,280
    Is the journal proposing another state of matter or another form of H2O?

    Because there are already 4 recognised states of matter (plasma is the 4th) and over a dozen forms of H2O.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  14. #13  
    Moderator Moderator Cogito Ergo Sum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    2,507
    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    Is the journal proposing another state of matter or another form of H2O?

    Because there are already 4 recognised states of matter (plasma is the 4th) and over a dozen forms of H2O.

    From the abstract:
    This work has clearly proved and discovered another state of water which is named gason. This work also identified new changes of state as ejibomisation and perrychristisation. (...) This work focuses on ice, more generalized version of this study will soon be published to accommodate all forms of matter beyond water.

    (Bold mine)
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  15. #14  
    Brassica oleracea Strange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    喫茶店
    Posts
    16,590
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    do you think that water vapor and emanations from ice are the same?
    Yes.

    Science thrive in openness and objectivity.
    There is no objective data to support the existence of "gason".
    Without wishing to overstate my case, everything in the observable universe definitely has its origins in Northamptonshire -- Alan Moore
    Reply With Quote  
     

  16. #15  
    Forum Professor Daecon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    1,280
    Isn't that the same thing as sublimation?
    Reply With Quote  
     

  17. #16  
    Forum Sophomore Karsus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    194
    I postulate that a fifth state of water can be achieved. It is called "delicious" and it occurs when you fill a standard glass with cold water and put a slice of lemon in it.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  18. #17  
    Brassica oleracea Strange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    喫茶店
    Posts
    16,590
    Quote Originally Posted by Karsus View Post
    ... when you fill a standard glass with cold water and put a slice of lemon in it.
    The process of karsusification.
    Without wishing to overstate my case, everything in the observable universe definitely has its origins in Northamptonshire -- Alan Moore
    Reply With Quote  
     

  19. #18  
    exchemist
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,649
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    Every new idea is not expected to be accepted immediately with open arms. The Journal might not be old enough, but every great Journal have a start.

    Forget the Author's Country or affiliations, do you think that water vapor and emanations from ice are the same?

    Science thrive in openness and objectivity.
    It'a scam journal with a nonsensical article in it. Any fool can see the "paper" is - objectively - rubbish, from the total lack of results contained in it.

    Science thrives on criticism and rigorous quality control, by the way, not on woolly-minded acceptance of any old shit.

    You wouldn't be Nigerian, by any chance, would you?
    Last edited by exchemist; May 6th, 2014 at 09:16 AM.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  20. #19  
    Cooking Something Good MacGyver1968's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Dallas, Texas
    Posts
    2,051
    Quote Originally Posted by Karsus View Post
    I postulate that a fifth state of water can be achieved. It is called "delicious" and it occurs when you fill a standard glass with cold water and put a slice of lemon in it.
    Yes, and a sixth state is called "Macgyverisation"...in which a small amount of H2O is mixed with single malt whiskey....transforming it into the nectar of the gods. Also called "nectarisation"...it was discovered by a Scott in 1465.
    Fixin' shit that ain't broke.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  21. #20  
    exchemist
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,649
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    The existence of a new state of water has been proved/discovered according to a recently published research paper.

    The paper proves that the gaseous-like particles emanating from frozen water, ice, is completely different from vapor and as well is justified to be the 4th/new state of water.

    It further claim that a certain new form of force is responsible for its formation and motion.

    The paper titled "Gason: A New State of Water" published by American Journal of Science and Technology
    I've reported you for attempting to boost a predatory journal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predato...ess_publishing

    http://scholarlyoa.com/publishers/

    It will be up to the moderators what, if anything, they do about it.

    Makes a change from scam 404 I suppose.
    Last edited by exchemist; May 6th, 2014 at 10:05 AM.
    Cogito Ergo Sum likes this.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  22. #21  
    Moderator Moderator Cogito Ergo Sum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    2,507
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    I've reported you for attempting to boost a predatory journal. Predatory open-access publishing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    LIST OF PUBLISHERS | Scholarly Open Access

    It will be up to the moderators what, if anything, they do about it.

    That confirms what I said in post #7. Thank you for providing the second link, it is very useful (and a bit frightening due to its length).
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  23. #22  
    exchemist
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,649
    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    I've reported you for attempting to boost a predatory journal. Predatory open-access publishing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    LIST OF PUBLISHERS | Scholarly Open Access

    It will be up to the moderators what, if anything, they do about it.

    That confirms what I said in post #7. Thank you for providing the second link, it is very useful (and a bit frightening due to its length).
    Yes it was your remark that caused me to do a bit more digging.

    Not very nice, is it, to take money off gullible people to publish their stuff in faked up journals with a circulation of zero? But that's the business they are in. If you look at their website, there is chuff-all about issues or articles for readers, which is most extraordinary for a supposed journal, as that should be their raison d'etre. In fact, it seems the ONLY article they have EVER published is this nonsense one that Strange found, even though they've made it look as if there are others by starting it on page 55.

    Instead of any articles for readers, there is loads of stuff for authors, about how (for a fee) you can get things published, or how (for another fee?) you can join their editorial board, etc.

    And not a single named individual, or registered company address, in sight…….

    Of course, once they have an author's bank details, they can empty his account, too, while they are at it.

    It's a (Nigerian?) jungle out there.
    Cogito Ergo Sum likes this.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  24. #23  
    Brassica oleracea Strange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    喫茶店
    Posts
    16,590
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    In fact, it seems the ONLY article they have EVER published is this nonsense one that Strange found, even though they've made it look as if there are others by starting it on page 55.
    That is not quite true. If you click on the All Issues link, they have published two issues with a total of 9 papers.

    And not a single named individual, or registered company address, in sight…….
    The domain name was registered at the end of last year via a proxy so that no names are revealed by a whois lookup. Their office address is a serviced office suite (I am willing to bet a small amount that there are 0 staff based there). All vary nasty and scammy.
    Cogito Ergo Sum likes this.
    Without wishing to overstate my case, everything in the observable universe definitely has its origins in Northamptonshire -- Alan Moore
    Reply With Quote  
     

  25. #24  
    exchemist
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,649
    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    In fact, it seems the ONLY article they have EVER published is this nonsense one that Strange found, even though they've made it look as if there are others by starting it on page 55.
    That is not quite true. If you click on the All Issues link, they have published two issues with a total of 9 papers.

    And not a single named individual, or registered company address, in sight…….
    The domain name was registered at the end of last year via a proxy so that no names are revealed by a whois lookup. Their office address is a serviced office suite (I am willing to bet a small amount that there are 0 staff based there). All vary nasty and scammy.
    Oh yes you are right. So they have suckered a handful of people in contributing papers, mostly from Africa or Eastern Europe I see.

    But your further research confirms the diagnosis. The only question now is whether the OP was innocent or complicit. Suspect if the latter we will not be seeing him again, now that he's been rumbled. Anyhow that's for the Mods. But I see he's still logged on, even as I write this………..

    But yet another eye-opener into the murky world of stealing people's money under false pretences. How depressing. Just as I was getting used to these jokers who ring up periodically from the "Microsoft Technical Serwice Department", about "a wirus on your Vindows computer".
    Reply With Quote  
     

  26. #25  
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    9
    I'm interested in establishing the truth as whether the Journal is a scam or not.

    Let's also try to read without prejudice to really ascertain if the paper is proving something.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  27. #26  
    Forum Isotope
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Western US
    Posts
    2,666
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    I'm interested in establishing the truth as whether the Journal is a scam or not.

    Let's also try to read without prejudice to really ascertain if the paper is proving something.
    Your appeal has already been granted. The paper was given due consideration, in the scientific spirit of objectivity. And, based on the available evidence, the paper is a joke (whether intended to be or not), and the journal in which it is published is obviously a money-making scam outfit with zero scientific credibility.

    We've already ascertainted that the paper proves nothing. Its claim is therefore properly dismissed as unsupported crap.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  28. #27  
    Genius Duck Moderator Dywyddyr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Scunthorpe, UK
    Posts
    10,821
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    I'm interested in establishing the truth as whether the Journal is a scam or not.

    Let's also try to read without prejudice to really ascertain if the paper is proving something.
    Regardless of whether or not the journal itself is a scam, that paper certainly proves something.
    Either the author (and, possibly, the journal's editor & peer-reviewer) has a sense of humour (but somewhat misplaced) or he shouldn't be trusted with any job requiring a modicum of rationality or scientific knowhow.
    "[Dywyddyr] makes a grumpy bastard like me seem like a happy go lucky scamp" - PhDemon
    Reply With Quote  
     

  29. #28  
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    9
    Well, I think that the tabulated differences between vapor/gason and sublimation/ejibomisation as presented in the paper makes any good thinking Scientist to have a rethought and see the contributions made.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  30. #29  
    Brassica oleracea Strange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    喫茶店
    Posts
    16,590
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    Let's also try to read without prejudice to really ascertain if the paper is proving something.
    What do you mean by "read without prejudice"? Do you mean, perhaps, accept what it says uncritically? Or should we treat it with the same scepticism that we would any other scientific paper?
    Without wishing to overstate my case, everything in the observable universe definitely has its origins in Northamptonshire -- Alan Moore
    Reply With Quote  
     

  31. #30  
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    9
    It might take decades for the work to be given some credit. It is normal
    Reply With Quote  
     

  32. #31  
    Brassica oleracea Strange's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    喫茶店
    Posts
    16,590
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    Well, I think that the tabulated differences between vapor/gason and sublimation/ejibomisation as presented in the paper makes any good thinking Scientist to have a rethought and see the contributions made.
    All it says, in 7 different ways, is that steam is hot and ice-cold vapour is cold.
    Without wishing to overstate my case, everything in the observable universe definitely has its origins in Northamptonshire -- Alan Moore
    Reply With Quote  
     

  33. #32  
    Forum Isotope
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Western US
    Posts
    2,666
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    It might take decades for the work to be given some credit. It is normal
    You are presuming things not in evidence. You are assuming that there's credit to be given -- why is that? It is "normal" for specious nonsense to be dismissed rapidly. The paper -- and the journal that published it -- stinks like unrefrigerated week-old fish. There's nothing more to the story. The paper is, again, crap. That you found the paper at all raises suspicions, and the fact that you are defending it with such persistence signals to me the likelihood that you are one of the authors, or a shill for the sham publisher.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  34. #33  
    Genius Duck Moderator Dywyddyr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Scunthorpe, UK
    Posts
    10,821
    jikepaddy likes this.
    "[Dywyddyr] makes a grumpy bastard like me seem like a happy go lucky scamp" - PhDemon
    Reply With Quote  
     

  35. #34  
    exchemist
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    2,649
    Quote Originally Posted by jikepaddy View Post
    Well, I think that the tabulated differences between vapor/gason and sublimation/ejibomisation as presented in the paper makes any good thinking Scientist to have a rethought and see the contributions made.
    Let me make it simple. THERE ARE NO RESULTS in the "paper.

    The "tabulated differences" you refer to are not data at all. They are just assertions of difference.

    Where are the MEASUREMENTS that provide EVIDENCE for a different state of matter?

    The only measurements that seem to have been taken are:

    1) measuring the temperature at whicb vapour was said to be formed, when the water sample was heated (this made me burst out laughing) This was, apparently at 100C. No shit, Sherlock.

    2) measuring the temperature of the sample that was put in the freezer for 7 days. This reached a temperature of -10C. How fascinating.

    3) various motions of litmus paper: apparently the emanations from the boiling water made the paper move more than those from the ice. Big surprise there.

    4) the litmus paper was used to show the emanations were neither acid nor alkali (big surprise there too)

    5) Both emanations turn anhydrous copper sulphate blue, showing they both are composed of (I burst out laughing for the second time at this point) WATER!!!

    NOWHERE is there ANY attempt to analyse ANYTHING about the emanation from the ice to show it is anything different from ordinary water vapour - or a mixture of water vapour with cold air chilled by it, which is what one would expect. It was not isolated. None of its physical or chemical properties were measured. No latent heats were measured for any phase changes to and from this alleged state. No attempt was made to distinguish it by its spectrum. Nothing whatever to show there was anything different from ordinary water vapour present.

    The whole paper is a farce, a joke. It demonstrates nothing apart from the sense of humour of whoever wrote it, or, if it is intended seriously, which I have trouble really believing, then immense, grotesque, delusional, terminal levels of stupidity on the part of the author.
    Cogito Ergo Sum and Daecon like this.
    Reply With Quote  
     

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 1
    Last Post: October 14th, 2013, 10:23 PM
  2. 4th dimension
    By dejawolf in forum Physics
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: March 7th, 2011, 11:09 AM
  3. 4th dimension
    By alexdj1983 in forum Physics
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: November 9th, 2008, 10:21 PM
  4. 4th Dimension
    By Cosmo in forum Personal Theories & Alternative Ideas
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: April 23rd, 2008, 10:00 AM
Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •