
Originally Posted by
samsmoot
But the universal laws of physics by definition don't apply to how the universe was created in the first place.
Yet, they explain everything that has come after. So why suddenly deny the science which has been able to explain and predict everything up to a point?
I do not believe I have denied that science but have only questioned some things. Why suddenly say that these scientists who could work out the complexity of billions upon billions of years of the life of our universe are not to be trusted in the fraction of a second leading up to that time?
I don't think I said that either. If you discount immediately, without reason, the work of those scientists in that brief moment which we cannot yet fully understand, then why not write off everything they have accomplished in regards to our current universe? Why not write off our understanding of physics and chemistry and mathematics entirely? Why choose that one brief moment?
And again I have not written off any scientific explanation, and that brief moment is a vital one.
My guess is that it is because you are looking for a weak spot in which you can insert God because we are starting to grow out of the idea that some supreme being is responsible for the sky being blue and babies being born. Find that last corner of scientific ignorance and squeeze God in there.
Not at all. My enquiry comes from no agenda to prove God, either to myself or anyone else. It comes from questions arising in my mind as to the possible existence of there being a Creator and how that might work.

Originally Posted by
samsmoot
And I am completely bereft of a reasonable explanation of how life started.
Yes. We're all painfully aware of that. I'm completely ignorant of how NASA was able to land a small mobile laboratory on Mars. Yet, I believe it happened and I trust the experts when they explain how they did it.
How life started is something for me to look into in more depth, and I will. At the moment I have yet to hear a coherent or convincing argument as to how life got started, and don't know who I should trust to listen to on this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by
samsmoot
Why the universe is 'self aware', in the form of the human mind, is a question which holds some interest for me and one which I haven't heard being addressed by scientists. My position is that God may have done it.
Sure, your God may have done it. But it isn't fair to discount all of the other Gods throughout history, is it? While we're considering them, we should also make room for all of the Gods of all sentient races across the whole of the universe. Otherwise, we're not being "open minded."
I posit a Creator, which excludes any gods that didn't make the universe.

Originally Posted by
samsmoot
Which means I will take on board opposing views and give them fair consideration. If the default position is 'no God' it's correct to question that view. I do so not because I want to prove God's existence or because of any pre-existing indoctrination; it's a compulsion giving rise to intellectual examination.
Intellectual examination immediately discounts any idea of God. Given that there is zero evidence for God, she doesn't pass round one. She doesn't factor into the equation. She misses the bus. She gets the gong.