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    Just posting an introduction here. I was diagnosed with autism multiple times but feel it was only because I'm a nerd. I think, because autism also describes high-functioning cases, that it discriminates against nerds in general. Added disclaimer so there's no confusion: I'm Non-religious and also disagree with Michael Savage's comments regarding autism.

    Really, what good is an introductory post if I'm just going to talk about my opinions? I have a lot else to offer to this forum, as I AM a science nerd afterall.


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    Welcome to the forum. Regarding autism, our elaborate classification systems are one of the things that have enabled our cultural development. That does not mean they are foolproof. On the other hand if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and lays eggs you probably don't want to use it to chop down a tree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    On the other hand if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and lays eggs you probably don't want to use it to chop down a tree.
    I dread to think how many ducks died before I realised that.
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    Welcome.

    Nerd? Whats that? If it cant be used to justify medication, the adjective no longer exists.
    Shy? Rascal? Bored? Absent minded? Sad? Active? These adjectives existed in the 60s, but now they no longer exist, I got the note. Anything our of the ordinary is now a medical condition. No need to find a cause, (specially if society might be the problem), if there's a pill for it. War is normal wholesome and healthy, if someone has post stress traumatic disorder (or whatever its called) then you are not just adapting to the sanity and happiness of war, the problem is not war, its you!

    (that doesnt mean theres no autism, just to say theres a tendency)


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    What's your IQ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Welcome to the forum. Regarding autism, our elaborate classification systems are one of the things that have enabled our cultural development. That does not mean they are foolproof. On the other hand if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and lays eggs you probably don't want to use it to chop down a tree.
    So silly, that's what herring are for.
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    Based on the conversations on this thread, I don't think I would trust most of you to use a chainsaw, gas OR electric, lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCanvas View Post
    Just posting an introduction here. I was diagnosed with autism multiple times but feel it was only because I'm a nerd. I think, because autism also describes high-functioning cases, that it discriminates against nerds in general. Added disclaimer so there's no confusion: I'm Non-religious and also disagree with Michael Savage's comments regarding autism.

    Really, what good is an introductory post if I'm just going to talk about my opinions? I have a lot else to offer to this forum, as I AM a science nerd afterall.
    Interesting I look forward to discussing autism definitions with you, although I have no credentials for such
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    Well I already have a thread up called 'autism' is discrimination and would recommend your questions continue on in that thread instead of this one.
    'Autism' Is Discrimination

    As for IQ, I think it's a very faulty mode of testing intelligence, and reject the practice altogether. I was never tested for IQ but scored above average on cognitive testing... Which doesn't mean I'm willing to bow down in defeat to people who score higher, and I surely won't even admit anyone's smarter than me who does score higher. Vice versa for those who score lower.
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    "Is Autism Discrimination?" would have been more inviting to people and probably would have encouraged more discussion.

    Regardless, belated welcome to the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCanvas View Post
    Well I already have a thread up called 'autism' is discrimination and would recommend your questions continue on in that thread instead of this one.
    'Autism' Is Discrimination

    As for IQ, I think it's a very faulty mode of testing intelligence, and reject the practice altogether. I was never tested for IQ but scored above average on cognitive testing...
    You likely were and it's in your records, you probably either not told or don't remember. IQ is one of the most common results of cognitive test and part of dozens of special education packages I've seen. Are they totally accurate? No! But they are accurate enough to be part of the puzzle to explain low grades and sometimes used as a hard criteria for eligibility to special education programs (less than 70 is automatically special education in the US).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCanvas View Post
    Well I already have a thread up called 'autism' is discrimination and would recommend your questions continue on in that thread instead of this one.
    'Autism' Is Discrimination

    As for IQ, I think it's a very faulty mode of testing intelligence, and reject the practice altogether. I was never tested for IQ but scored above average on cognitive testing...
    You likely were and it's in your records, you probably either not told or don't remember. IQ is one of the most common results of cognitive test and part of dozens of special education packages I've seen. Are they totally accurate? No! But they are accurate enough to be part of the puzzle to explain low grades and sometimes used as a hard criteria for eligibility to special education programs (less than 70 is automatically special education in the US).
    Just, wow... Under 70 is special ed? I was tested for an 11th grade vocabulary in 3rd grade and still remained in special education until the 8th grade. Discrimination, check! I guess those diagnosed with autism aren't treated with the same equality as everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCanvas View Post
    Just, wow... Under 70 is special ed? I was tested for an 11th grade vocabulary in 3rd grade and still remained in special education until the 8th grade. Discrimination, check! I guess those diagnosed with autism aren't treated with the same equality as everyone else.
    Read what I wrote. "less than 70 is automatically special education." That means those that score under 70 are automatically qualified, but there are MANY other learning disabilities that also qualify children for special education including the spectrum of autism which in some cases includes even gifted students with high IQ that struggle with grades. In fact high IQ and underachievement is an excellent indicators of another developmental problem.
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    I tested with a high IQ, but was placed in remedial education most of my life. I wonder, if autism had the spotlight when I was a kid that it has now, if I would have been tested for it. I was simply "diagnosed" with ADHD, which it later turned out I didn't have.
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