Thread: Introduce Yourself

Hi, and welcome to The Science Forum. I hope you decide to register and become a part of this forum so we can have some great and intelligent discussions reguarding all things in the universe.


I'm 2112, and yes, I'm a fan of Rush. But more importantly, I'm very fascinated with the idea of Evolution and Extinction. I had one of those Zoobooks on Elephants when I was a kid, and I remember looking at the extinct species of elephant ancestors and thinking about how bizarre it was that they were alive at one time, but not one could be found alive today. It still interests me more than anything else.

I'm (In)Sanity, yes sometimes sane and sometimes not. I also am a fan of Rush. My thing is logic and how it applies to life. Emotion gets in the way of logic as does beer. In contrast to my fondness of logic I also like the things logic can't explain such as the supernatural and other weird phenomena.

I'm more Star Wars then Star Trek.

I'm sploit. I made a lot of mistakes and am now the smartest person to attend South Suburban College (www.southsuburbancollege.edu) --which is not something to be proud of.. My interests are physics, math, computers, astronomy. .. pretty much most science. Fuck rush, it's all about Future Leader's of the World.

I'm big on theoretical perspectives: String theory, time travel, quasars, black holes. I like cryptography (I might post some algo's in the math forum), and I llike working with computers and security.

I also like to pole vault.

I am HomoUniversalis, and am from Europe, Netherlands. I am interested in psychology, and the Biological base of it (I am a reductionist). I am interested in physics and other forms of science.

Also, I am much intrigued by bio-ethics, and it's application in modern-day societies.

Mr U

Hi, I came over from www.itsallpolitics.com. A few of you already know me from there.

Thanks for joining the site Sploit, HomoUniversalis, and Chovy. It's nice to see you all!

I'm DEChengst and I'm from The Netherlands. Yes, that's the country Hansje Brinker saved by putting his finger in the dike. Well not really as Hansje Brinker is just a story we tell to gullible tourists. Ofcourse after the tourists have gone the tourguide breaks down in laughter because they'll all believe it really happened. The city I live is called Rotterdam and has the biggest seaport in the world. Other famous spots are the Erasmusbrug, the Euromast and ofcourse the Keileweg. If you're interested in the more liberal side of Holland you'll also find plenty of coffeeshops.

I earn my living by being a system administrator. The most important task I do is keeping all the UNIX boxen running. I'm also responsible for managing all Sybase database. Since a year or so I started supporting the OpenVMS boys. My final task is taking care of our SAN systems. It must be pretty clear now that my job is the geek's dream job. I get to "play" with huge and expensive enterprise class hardware while getting payed for it.

My first hobby is autosports. Ofcourse I like Formula One the most, with DTM being a good second. I'm totally not interested in American races that only drive on ovals. I really can't see what's so great about driving around in a circle. Ovals just pale in comparison with circuits like Spa Francorchamps. There is no greater sight than seeing the likes of Michael Schumacher or Senna driving a Formula One car at Spa in heavy rain. The car twisting and drifting at every corner as it's being driven around the track one or two seconds faster per lap than the entire opposition.

Another hobby of mine is computers. I own a nice collection of old server hardware. Most people consider them junk but to me they are my treasures. As you may have gathered from my nickname the systems I like most were made by the Digital Equipment Corporation.

Science is one of the cornerstones of my life and I have little respect for people that keep believing in certain things although science proves those things can't be true. I always try to discuss matters from the scientist point of view. If some claims that homeopathy works I'll demand that results from double blind studies backing up those claims will be shown. If someone thinks that the creation tale as told in the Bible should be taken litteraly I'll point out that it doesn't match with the know age of the universe and the Earth. As this is the scienforum.com I guess this will be a nice to place to hang around.

Welcome DEChengst, I hope you find some interesting and hopefully educational posts on this forum. So far it's an interesting mix of personalities and beliefs. Science needs debate, it's one of the great ways to discover answers and new theories. You'll be happy to know this site runs on a 100% Linux base, all the way down to the DNS servers. No HP or Compaq hardware either. Actually it's running off a Tyan based system right now.

Wow, DEChengst. You sure made the other introductions fade into nothingness, lol. It's good to see someone else from the Netherlands who has mastered the English spelling and it's grammar. Too often are the Dutch represented by the illiterate.

I hope you have fun debating here, and that you will contribute and learn in many new, exciting ways. Live long and prosper .

Mr U

Hi Folks-

I’m a retire RN over here on the left coast of North America on the third stone from the sun. Rush? I’m afraid not. CSNY, Hendrix, Dylan, String Cheese, Phish and of course the good old Grateful Dead (hence the handle)…But that’s all history now. I’m more of an NPR sort these days.

I dropped by from: http://www.itsallpolitics.com/index.php . A nice place if you have a stomach for politics. But I came here to talk science. I always liked the sciences. The best part about being retired is that you have more time to read. I am mostly interested in the physics of energy these days, but I know enough about a lot of topics to get myself in trouble. I always appreciate being set straight (gently) :wink: . I’m looking foreword to meeting you all.

Hi and welcome DEChengst and hey Terrapin. It never ceases to amaze me the people who fluently speak more than one language correctly. That is such an amazing thing for a person to learn. I used to know Spanish, but the more I don't practice it I think I've pretty much lost most of it at this point.

Welcome, Terrapin.

We are starting to get an interesting group together, and I have to say I find them to be a lot of fun. As you may have noticed we are still in the beginning stages with this forum, but not for long. Seeing as how we are not yet listed in any search engine some of the members here have been trying to recruit. I appreciate their hard work. I suspect that if all goes well this will become a very popular forum. 2112 is the main founder of the forum I just run the servers.

I hope you enjoy your time here and you can count on me to bring up many strange and unusual topics. Don't be shy however, feel free to start a thread on pretty much anything you like, we even have the general section to discuss non science related topics.

Hi!

I'm also a guy from chovys itsallpolitics forum. A forum I highly recommend. Myself I'm a newly graduated computer scientist trying to make my own way in the computer business (which means I'm also a paper boy Hard work but you get to be out doors a lot. Good for the mind. I'm mostly interested in CS, physics and general technology. Look forward to participate in this forum.

daijo, welcome aboard. We are still in the early phases of this forum, however it's growing faster then expected. Having been a programmer for over 25 years I welcome aboard a fellow CS guy. Feel free to start any new posts on your topic of choice. We have the hard drive space

Hello everyone.......I am Anomolous. I am a musician so I hope to learn a lot here. I'm interested in Astronomy, Social Sciences, and Philosophy.

Welcome Anomolous, nice to have you aboard.

I'm (in)Sanity of course, the name fits me well. Music rules, I use to be a big synth freak back before the days of a sound cards for computers, I built my own 24 voice polyphonic synth and used math to generate music, yes..lame I know.

Don't be shy, and don't worry about looking like a brain here. I type some stuff that makes absolulty no sense at all

math to generate music

Are you serious? That's incredible! Math is, after all, the perfect science. Does it sound good?

Welcome Anomolous, daijo and Terrapin! May the spirit that is knowledge bring enlightenment in an age filled with religious terror!

Mr U

Yeah,

Originally Posted by HomoUniversalis

Welcome Anomolous, daijo and Terrapin!

Thanks for signing up and hope to hear from you soon.

Originally Posted by (In)Sanity

Welcome Anomolous, nice to have you aboard.

I'm (in)Sanity of course, the name fits me well. Music rules, I use to be a big synth freak back before the days of a sound cards for computers, I built my own 24 voice polyphonic synth and used math to generate music, yes..lame I know.

Don't be shy, and don't worry about looking like a brain here. I type some stuff that makes absolulty no sense at all

It's hardly lame. I always revered those that could build things from nothing. I love electronic music: Prodigy, Paul Oakenfold, Paul van Dyck, Chemical Brothers, Lords of Acid, Crystal Method......just to name a few. The only thing I'm really crafty with is music. I love Math....I just have never been any good at it. Math is so much a part of music. I always like to think of music as math's softer side. Anyway, looking forward to sharing ideas. Thanks to all for the warm welcomes.

t's hardly lame. I always revered those that could build things from nothing. I love electronic music: Prodigy, Paul Oakenfold, Paul van Dyck, Chemical Brothers, Lords of Acid, Crystal Method......just to name a few. The only thing I'm really crafty with is music. I love Math....I just have never been any good at it. Math is so much a part of music. I always like to think of music as math's softer side. Very Happy Anyway, looking forward to sharing ideas. Thanks to all for the warm welcomes.

Like your taste in Music, toss in some Depeche Mode and anything Trance and I'm happy. Of course I'll listen to anything but rap. I use to be a Pink Floyd junkie. Now I mostly do trance while I code. Still fond of some of the 80's music. I'm getting old. Still like Collective Soul and REM.

Hi All,

My name is Gary. I usually frequent a political discussion forum called AI-Jane but life ain't all politics (thank God) and sometimes I like a discussion about "hard" topics that are devoid of the spin.

I have a decent educational background (degrees in chemistry and computer science) and work as a software engineer. You'd think that means I know what I'm talking about regarding those subjects. I'm sure I will underwhelm you soon with my vast intellectual ramblings.

I am currently trying to develop my PHP skills and do some things with phpBB integration to other products. Anybody interested in doing development along those lines let me know and maybe we can come up with some cool new concepts that enhance our forum experience.

Gary

Welcome to the board, Gary! Nice to have someone with some education in Chemistry. Hope to hear from you on the board.

Heya guys, a few of you know me....alright, so it's just HU and NMN from the looks of things but anyhoo...as you can see I'm one of the Aussies that flits around these places causing the chaos we pride ourselves in creating, but being as I am an evolutionist this should be a great place to have some intelligent discussions.

See y'all around.

Welcome Eon! It is always a pleasure to see you around! If you do not mind me saying, I do hope you will take it easy on colors though. Your orange is.. uhm... hard on the eyes, lol.

Mr U

Welcome Eon.

We could use a little chaos around here, feel free to post away as we have the HD space

*G* Yeah I noticed that after I posted HU, at least it isn't yellow though :wink: .
And cheers (In)Sanity.

Hi Eon, welcome to the board. Musta missed this thread, sorry about that! Hope to see you around.

I am NMN.... and this is my friend, Jim. He likes science. I, myself, am not a big fan of science, but Jim seems to like it, and he has no hands, so I will have to type for him.

HU knows me... and if he tries to deny it, well then, I can't do much about it.

Originally Posted by NMN

I am NMN.... and this is my friend, Jim. He likes science. I, myself, am not a big fan of science, but Jim seems to like it, and he has no hands, so I will have to type for him.

HU knows me... and if he tries to deny it, well then, I can't do much about it.

Welcome,

What exactly does NMN represent? Not in My Neighborhood

No really though, nice to have you aboard, and Jim.

Well, Jim stand for Jim. And NMN stand for something. What that something is based on is the mathematical precision of the movement of the solar system around the galatic center.

Jim told me to write that.

Jim lied. Hey dude, I won't deny knowing you....though I possibly should at times. :P

I deny all knowledge of existance of everyone calling themselveles NMN, NmN, nMn, nMN, Nmn, NMn, nmn or Jim, so there!

Welcome Ji- uhm NMN, and also welcome UT and 3d dimension!

Mr U

Hey guys, I'm new here. I'm a 17 year old college student, and I have always like science, especialy chemistry. Hope to have some good times here.

Originally Posted by buffstuff

Hey guys, I'm new here. I'm a 17 year old college student, and I have always like science, especialy chemistry. Hope to have some good times here.

Welcome to the forum. 17 and in college already? The Chemistry section is lacking content at the moment and could use some new topics. I'm sure we can come up with some however.

I Look forward to reading your posts.

Hey Buffstuff, hows it goin? 8)

Welcome buffstuff! I think you will find the atmosphere to be a little more collegial over here.

Whats up guys, long time no see! 8) I guess I'll fit in here pretty good!

Originally Posted by HomoUniversalis

I deny all knowledge of existance of everyone calling themselveles NMN, NmN, nMn, nMN, Nmn, NMn, nmn or Jim, so there!

Welcome Ji- uhm NMN, and also welcome UT and 3d dimension!

Mr U

hehehe. HU didn't deny me.

Thank you honey. Hopefully I'll have to time to visit here more when school breaks next week for the year.

Mum's here! Bout time UT, no presure or anything hun, lol. Good to see you on though.

Hello all!

My name is Kristian, I'm 27 years old and live in Norway. This forum looks interesting, and I'll be especially hanging out on the Environmental part of it, as that is my academic background.

Originally Posted by kristian

Hello all!

My name is Kristian, I'm 27 years old and live in Norway. This forum looks interesting, and I'll be especially hanging out on the Environmental part of it, as that is my academic background.

Welcome Kristian.

Glad to have you aboard. Myself and I'm sure most of our other users always welcome a new face.
The forum is young and growing, so we are always in need of new interesting topics to keep everyone happy.

Hi there, Pendragon reporting. "Oh no not another dutchman!!" sorry can't help it..:P

I'm a human geography student, that's got something to do with people having spatial behaviour and stuff.. I guess we just took a bit of economy, sociology, ecology and called it our very own field of science.

also very much interested in history (ey there's no history section, gonna report that!), earth science, philosophy.

Anyway great idea to set up this forum. Talking about science is very relaxing after another round of political mudfight :wink:

Originally Posted by Pendragon

Hi there, Pendragon reporting. "Oh no not another dutchman!!" sorry can't help it..:P

I'm a human geography student, that's got something to do with people having spatial behaviour and stuff.. I guess we just took a bit of economy, sociology, ecology and called it our very own field of science.

also very much interested in history (ey there's no history section, gonna report that!), earth science, philosophy.

Anyway great idea to set up this forum. Talking about science is very relaxing after another round of political mudfight :wink:

Welcome to the forum, as we are still somewhat new to the net I'm sure there are a few things we can tweak here and there to better represent the interests of our members. 2112 setup all the original categories, so with any luck she'll be nice enough to help out on wording any new ones we add. I own the forum but do not do the administration on it, our kind friend HomoUniversalis volunteered his time to handle that job.

I'm sure we can work something out, again welcome.

Hey guys, I am science_nut06 also known as Smith1 and Amelia (my name). HU, UT, NMN, and Eon know me. Pity them. Umm I am 17 years old and I want to be a volcanologist. Ummm anything else you want to know.... ask me.

A lot of you know me from It's All Politics since that is where I learned about it.

Welcome science_nut06 and poly_nightmare.

We have a few from IAP over here now, and many that are not. It's a good mix overall.

Welcome aboard.

Hi there guys and gals. My name really is Dusty. I live in Chattanooga, Tn. I run foxcheck.org, and learned about this forum on freenode. This is a great forum, and it appears to be growing which is just great! I love science, and founded #cassini on irc.freenode.net. We later merged with #maestro (rovers) to become #space. I am a member of the SOC (Saturn Observation Campaign), and have worked hard to build community around the Cassini mission. Currently, getting foxcheck up and viable is my #1 priority, but I think I will be a regualr here. I have a bs in ENVH, and have taken grad courses off and on in various areas. Currently I am waiting on the mission scientist for the Cassini mission (Carolyn Porco) to email me back some questions we came up with for her (she agreed to do it). I love linux, and have been a tester for a few years now for Fedora. I just want to say thanks for building a great site, and if you don't mind I will be getting to know you all much better.

Originally Posted by thedustyone

Hi there guys and gals. My name really is Dusty. I live in Chattanooga, Tn. I run foxcheck.org, and learned about this forum on freenode. This is a great forum, and it appears to be growing which is just great! I love science, and founded #cassini on irc.freenode.net. We later merged with #maestro (rovers) to become #space. I am a member of the SOC (Saturn Observation Campaign), and have worked hard to build community around the Cassini mission. Currently, getting foxcheck up and viable is my #1 priority, but I think I will be a regualr here. I have a bs in ENVH, and have taken grad courses off and on in various areas. Currently I am waiting on the mission scientist for the Cassini mission (Carolyn Porco) to email me back some questions we came up with for her (she agreed to do it). I love linux, and have been a tester for a few years now for Fedora. I just want to say thanks for building a great site, and if you don't mind I will be getting to know you all much better.

Hey, Welcome Dusty.

Thanks for the complements, we are doing are best to make this the #1 science forum on the net. We are going to stick with this nice clean look with any luck forever. It's one of the things that separates us from the rest. This site is running on Debian at the moment, and yes we are 100% Microsoft free. DNS, email , etc all runs on a Linux platform.

Our IRC chat works, but needs help. Normally myself and DEChengst hang around for a few hours a day. Buffstuff and once in a while someone else will drop in.

Feel free to run a banner in your sig to advertise your site. Just not too big

I hope you enjoy posting to the forum.

Hello dusty Great to see a familiar face from #space on this forum. Looking forward to your contributions in "Astronomy & Cosmology"

Hi Dusty, thanks for sticking around.

yes i am a chinese girl in beijing, the capital of china. yesterday i found this forum and read a lot of your posts. i'm sure i love this place, and really want to know you and help each other. perhaps now you are all sleeping, have a good dream ,happy every day

Originally Posted by wina

yes i am a chinese girl in beijing, the capital of china. yesterday i found this forum and read a lot of your posts. i'm sure i love this place, and really want to know you and help each other. perhaps now you are all sleeping, have a good dream ,happy every day

Welcome to the forum, sleep..what a concept

I'm normally up until all hours of the night. We have many international members here as well. It's great to have someone from China who appears to have very good english.

Welcome.

Eeeshh, I guess I could have sounded a bit sarcastic in my welcome.

Sorry.

But really welcome.

Hi Folks, I'm the Dave from poland, Nithhogg recommended me that forum and I'm really glad about it I see forum is developing, so i'll try to contribute to this development

Welcome Dave.

I happen to be of Polish decent myself. Yes this forum is developing, the good news is it's moving along nicely.

Welcome, I hope you enjoy your stay.

Better?

Wes!!
NerdOverlord was fine, by the way. I was just mentioning how odd it was to use a different name for someone I know by another name.
It takes a moment's adjustment. A pause when you start to type "wes" to realize that you instead are supposed to type "NerdOverlord".
But. I like it that you succumbed to my peasly amount of peer pressure and have now assumed your rightful name.
I rule you!
Ha!

Originally Posted by invert_nexus

I rule you!
Ha!

Sheesh. This coming from the mouth of a "Forum Freshman" ...

Originally Posted by invert_nexus

Wes!!
NerdOverlord was fine, by the way.

Thanks, I wasn't tripping on it, but had your same thought... I'd rather be referred to as "wes", otherwise my simple lil mind is disconbobulated.
"Who?" I'd be constantly asking myself with any other name.

A pause when you start to type "wes" to realize that you instead are supposed to type "NerdOverlord".

Exactly. Funk dat.

But. I like it that you succumbed to my peasly amount of peer pressure and have now assumed your rightful name.

You wish, bish.

I rule you!
Ha!

Yer my mommie.

Hello everyone, like many others I'm here from SciForums due to it's temporary downtime.

Yer my mommie.

Urge to feed... rising. Rising. Rising.
Oh wait. That's something else...

Interesting avatar, Wessie-poo.

J. Wesley Morris,


That is one horrid avatar!

And I can't help but to wonder what sort of bra that girl has -- a bra that is barely holding its contents, or is just about to let go ...

Oh well. I guess if I wouldn't have a realistic idea of the whole thing, I would't wonder about it now.

You are the perfect tease, Wes.

It's a good thing the SciForums were down, stick around please. Especially Communist Hamster.

Originally Posted by 2112

It's a good thing the SciForums were down, stick around please. Especially Communist Hamster.

I kind of doubt they feel it's a good thing, but they are welcome here.

Originally Posted by water

J. Wesley Morris,

That is one horrid avatar!

Apparently then you're not nearly bi-sexual enough for my taste.

And I can't help but to wonder what sort of bra that girl has -- a bra that is barely holding its contents, or is just about to let go ...

LOL. It's something I ripped off from a poster on sci a long time ago... fafnir? I think it hillarious.

Oh well. I guess if I wouldn't have a realistic idea of the whole thing, I would't wonder about it now.

I wouldn't find it nearly as amusing were it real, as I'd feel bad for that poor girl's bruised eyes.

You are the perfect tease, Wes.

Oh stop.

I do wonder what your conception of the perfect tease might be.

Care to elaborate?

Originally Posted by (In)Sanity

I kind of doubt they feel it's a good thing, but they are welcome here.

well it was rather scary at first, but as you see, we haev recovered, and be assured you are welcome to join us at sciforums when it returns :wink: :wink:

What is SciForums, is it Science or Science-Fiction or both?

A science forum. It does have a sci-fi section, but is devoted towards science and philosophy more than Star Trek chatter. (Although, there was quite a bit of Star Trek vs. Star Wars vs. Dune vs. Walker Texas Ranger chat going on.)

vs. Walker Texas Ranger? Is that what constitutes science fiction these days?

Heh. That was a joke.
Funny?
I couldn't think of anything else that might foot the bill of something to up against the heavyweights of Dune and all the rest. (By the way, I think Dune would kick all their asses.)

Strawberry shortcake maybe.
Or Care Bears.

Originally Posted by wesmorris

I do wonder what your conception of the perfect tease might be.

Care to elaborate?

A perfect tease is easily to spot in practice; but to theoretically define what a perfect tease is ... it can't be done. One knows one when one sees one.

Originally Posted by water

Originally Posted by wesmorris

I do wonder what your conception of the perfect tease might be.

Care to elaborate?

A perfect tease is easily to spot in practice; but to theoretically define what a perfect tease is ... it can't be done. One knows one when one sees one.

I do suppose your response renders you its subject as well.

Originally Posted by 2112

vs. Walker Texas Ranger? Is that what constitutes science fiction these days?

well my best guess is that he is a failed experiment in natural camouflage that has made him so incrodibly ugly, no enemy can stand to look ot him and therefore aim at him

wesmorris, clearly the girl in your avatar is Chinese and German as she clearly isn't Japanese. Unless of course she's had some implants.

vslayer,

well my best guess is that he is a failed experiment in natural camouflage

Heh.
Ever seen Return of the Dragon (strangely enough the first of the pair of Dragon movies...)?
Chuck Norris had carpet on his shoulders back in those days. I think he's spent a small fortune on electrolysis. I think that he might be some type of mutant cross between a man and a cave bear. Or maybe a now-whatian boghog...

Now that would be an interesting matchup. Star Trek, Star Wars, Dune, and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...

Originally Posted by wesmorris

Originally Posted by water

Originally Posted by wesmorris

I do wonder what your conception of the perfect tease might be.

Care to elaborate?

A perfect tease is easily to spot in practice; but to theoretically define what a perfect tease is ... it can't be done. One knows one when one sees one.

I do suppose your response renders you its subject as well.

Hm. Know what? I've been mulling over this sentence of yours, and I concede that it is a fine piece of synthetic (as opposed to analytic) thinking, and I don't really understand it.

Hah!

English roxx!

Your response was "you know one when you see one" in regards to "the perfect tease". I was just saying a non-specific answer is somewhat of a tease in itself.

To correct you:

A "perfect tease" must be infinitely tantalizing and forever unnattainable.

Originally Posted by wesmorris

Your response was "you know one when you see one" in regards to "the perfect tease". I was just saying a non-specific answer is somewhat of a tease in itself.

To correct you:

A "perfect tease" must be infinitely tantalizing and forever unnattainable.

To make it clear to you:

Dragons and angels are also infinitely tantalizing and forever unattainable, and they could hardly be considered teases.


I was just saying a non-specific answer is somewhat of a tease in itself.

A
tease
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tease
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tease.


Hah!

I win.

Water:

Hm. Know what? I've been mulling over this sentence of yours, and I concede that it is a fine piece of synthetic (as opposed to analytic) thinking, and I don't really understand it.

He's notorious (for grammatical (convulsions) chopped into ) paratheses but he's Wes and I adore him.

anyway, this caught me-

Dragons and angels are also infinitely tantalizing and forever unattainable, and they could hardly be considered teases.

Of course they are teases; faith makes them so.
Anything faith-based is a tease becuase it requires the believing its tenet outside of experience.

So we have dragons and cherubim and golems, the Ascension, the Kaaba all under the rubric of 'tease' because all believe in them, dream of them, outside of experience.

The electron is tease in so far that I cannot see the little bugger but yet have to believe he is there.
And when I can see him (if ever) I cannot see his momentum.

He's the ultimate tease.


.

I'm Chaniry, it means Chan I R(espect) Y(ou), Chan is a guy I love. anyway He dont know this.
My favorite saying is "I've got somewhere I belong, I've got somebody to love, this is what dreams are made of."
nice to meet you

Your favourite saying makes me want to puke.

Welcome, chaniryt. Feel free to ignore kestasjk and his vomitable comments. He means best .

Mr U

Abraxas,

He's notorious (for grammatical (convulsions) chopped into ) paratheses but he's Wes and I adore him.

Wes, we love you! Wes is loved.

Dragons and angels are also infinitely tantalizing and forever unattainable, and they could hardly be considered teases.

Of course they are teases; faith makes them so.
Anything faith-based is a tease becuase it requires the believing its tenet outside of experience.

Lazy reason made magic our of religion and a sky-daddy out of God and the rest of the crew to be logical patch-ups to this quagmire.

You are right in that anything faith-based is a tease because it requires the believing its tenet outside of experience. But there is one thing to keep in mind: To have faith in science, this faith is your doing. To have faith on God, this faith is God's doing.

The electron is tease in so far that I cannot see the little bugger but yet have to believe he is there.
And when I can see him (if ever) I cannot see his momentum.

HAVE TO BELIEVE? No way. You don't have to believe that there are electrons. Nobody is pointing a gun to your head or a knife to your throat, threatening to kill you or mutilate you horridly if you don't believe in the existence of the electron.
You only have to believe so if you want to believe the scientific belief system so far, which is made of other beliefs like that anyway.

I love Wes, but I love Quine too:

From Quine's "Two dogmas of empiricism":

The totality of our so-called knowledge or beliefs, from the most casual matters of geography and history to the profoundest laws of atomic physics or even of pure mathematics and logic, is a man-made fabric which impinges on experience only along the edges. Or, to change the figure, total science is like a field of force whose boundary conditions are experience. A conflict with experience at the periphery occasions readjustments in the interior of the field. Truth values have to be redistributed over some of our statements. Re-evaluation of some statements entails re-evaluation of others, because of their logical interconnections -- the logical laws being in turn simply certain further statements of the system, certain further elements of the field. Having re-evaluated one statement we must re-evaluate some others, whether they be statements logically connected with the first or whether they be the statements of logical connections themselves. But the total field is so undetermined by its boundary conditions, experience, that there is much latitude of choice as to what statements to re-evaluate in the light of any single contrary experience. No particular experiences are linked with any particular statements in the interior of the field, except indirectly through considerations of equilibrium affecting the field as a whole.

I will repeat this until everyone understands it and applies it.

He's the ultimate tease.

Hah!

Originally Posted by HomoUniversalis

Welcome, chaniryt. Feel free to ignore kestasjk and his vomitable comments. He means best .

Mr U

never mind you guy. it's funy. I really like this forum, with different people from different cultures, it's good . thank u Mr U

Hi chaniryt, pleased to meet you.

Welcome chaniryt, glad to see you. I will look forward to your posts.

Originally Posted by chaniryt

I'm Chaniry, it means Chan I R(espect) Y(ou), Chan is a guy I love. anyway He dont know this.
My favorite saying is "I've got somewhere I belong, I've got somebody to love, this is what dreams are made of."
nice to meet you

HEY THERE!!1

Im prfect and i luw girlz and shit LOL but id like love to talk to you some times haha


and my favroite sayin is "Stronger than yesterday
Now it’s nothing but my way
My lonliness ain’t killing me no more
I’m stronger

Come on, now
Oh, yeah"

cya! lol

Originally Posted by Perfect

Originally Posted by chaniryt

I'm Chaniry, it means Chan I R(espect) Y(ou), Chan is a guy I love. anyway He dont know this.
My favorite saying is "I've got somewhere I belong, I've got somebody to love, this is what dreams are made of."
nice to meet you

HEY THERE!!1

Im prfect and i luw girlz and shit LOL but id like love to talk to you some times haha


and my favroite sayin is "Stronger than yesterday
Now it’s nothing but my way
My lonliness ain’t killing me no more
I’m stronger

Come on, now
Oh, yeah"

cya! lol

glad to meet u guys
I'm a little nervous these days, coz I'll take a test of "TOEFL" this Saturday.
I really want to do a good job in this test, but, anyway, I haven't got ready for it.

Hi,
Another refugee here. Good to see the rest of the refugees that have wended their way here so far.
Water:

You don't have to believe that there are electrons.

My computer makes me believe!

Hi there, Geodesic!

My computer makes me believe!

Then you can also believe in mermaids.

:? I feel I'm missing your implication here, but while I can believe in mermaids, I choose not to.
As for Quine, his paragraph may be true, but is only of importance if you believe science to be the ultimate truth. If instead you take science as a model of how things behave, then there is no need for belief.

Hi everyone, I'm TheRizzle. I'm from the Southerstern US, and I think I recognize a few of you from the itsallpolitics forum. How's it goin' 2112 and chovy? Just chillin' here.

Anyway, philosophy would have to be my main interest, although I am a huge fan of psychology and history. If I had to subscribe to any one particular philosopher of science, it would have to be Kuhn.

Well, actually I'm a mixture of Popper and Kuhn, but I really think Kuhn's notion of paradigms hits the nail on the head when it comes to the way in which science operates. I disagree with Kuhn in that I believe that some paradigms are indeed more objectively closer to the truth than others. I see a sort of Darwinian selection process acting on paradigms, in much the same way that it acts on sub-paradigms, or theories. And in that way I guess I subscribe to Popper's notion of falsification.

Some paradigms are objectively more false or more true than others, right? I mean, does anyone seriously think that Aristotle's image of the universe is more acurate than, say, Newton's image? Or Einstein's image? Hindsight as a result of future discovery always casts light on an objective "right" or "wrong" paradigm as far as I'm concerned.

Ok, enough of all the nerdy BS. If you really wanna understand why I think what I think, then take a look at a list of my most influencial authors:

Richard Dawkins
Janet Richards
Thomas Kuhn
Antonio T. De Nicolas
John C. Calhoune
Ronald & Donald Kennedy
Steven Pinker
Susan Blackmore
Steven J. Gould
Karl Marx



Later ya'll

Oh shit. I forgot to mention Jared Diamond.
I highly recommend everyone read Guns, Germs, and Steel.

welcome! yea Diamond has some interesting idea's, especially to a geographer like me maybe you should read David Landes too, as an addittion/alternative to guns germs&steel.

I am a Chinese researcher, I proposed a topic named "hydrosphere spending hypothesis", belong to earth science.

as I considered, the water on the earth become less and less. at last, the earth will be dry completely. and the earth was surrounded with water completely before 600,000,000 years ago.

I have posted a article on "earth science", you are welcome to read the article and post your pointview on the "hydrosphere spending hypothesis"!

by the way, who create and manage the forum?

(In)Sanity created the forum, and I am currently managing the forum. Welcome, benlinliu. I'm quite interested in your hypothesis. Eschatology, scientifically based, or otherwise has always much intriged me.

Mr U

Welcome CRice_aka_TheRizzle, to The Science Forum.

Also I don't remember welcoming benlinliu to the forum either. Your topic sounds interesting benlinliu, I will have to look it up.

The admin here is quite laid back. I have seen many forums where it seems like either the admin doesn't care or are just overboard in how they want the forum to run. That really doesn't happen here. If you are within reason there is no issue.

Greetings, salutations, and... have a cookie! The name's, "Mesocyclone." Nice to see all of you wonderful people here! My interests are: climatology, meteorology, and sociology.

I hope to see everyone around... = )


—Meso

32 year old female science geek.
I work in Genetics and Biochemistry.

Originally Posted by Genome72

32 year old female science geek.
I work in Genetics and Biochemistry.

Hey there, Genome72! I'm glad you came to this great board! Nice avatar. = ] You know, your avatar looks awfully familiar. ; 0 Cheers, and catch you on the flip side.

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