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| free radical |
 Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:06 pm Post subject: intelligence correlation |
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IQ Study: Liberals And Atheists Apparently More Intelligent
(London) -- A study by a behavioral scientist in England suggests that atheists and liberals have higher IQs than average.
Satoshi Kanazawa of the London School of Economics & Political Science examined data gathered over the course of more than a decade.
He found that young adults who describe themselves as atheists had an average IQ of 103 during adolescence, compared to an average IQ of 97 for those who said they were "very religious." That's a six-point difference.
Young adults who said they are liberal had an average IQ of 106 during adolescence, while their conservative counterparts had an average IQ of 95, a difference of eleven points.
The study also found that men with higher IQs tend to be what the researcher calls "sexually exclusive," or being true to one's mate and refraining from philandering. |
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All sorts of questions come to mind - what if you're a liberal and a believer, or a conservative atheist? Are there any conservative atheists? What of people who start out liberal and become conservative later in life? Or of atheists who convert?
But I have to say I'm not in the least surprised at this result.  |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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6 points may be minimal, but I'd love to have another 6 points added to my IQ.
I wonder about the distributions within each group. Hard to imagine a genius being a believer, and that will pull the average on the nonbelievers higher.
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| free radical wrote: |
| Hard to imagine a genius being a believer, and that will pull the average higher. |
Would graduating from Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude require a genius IQ? |
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| free radical |
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| free radical wrote: |
| Hard to imagine a genius being a believer, and that will pull the average higher. |
Would graduating from Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude require a genius IQ? |
hardly. |
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| free radical wrote: |
| Bunbury wrote: |
| free radical wrote: |
| Hard to imagine a genius being a believer, and that will pull the average higher. |
Would graduating from Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude require a genius IQ? |
hardly. |
Just as I thought. Obama's a dummy. |
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| Bunbury wrote: |
All sorts of questions come to mind - what if you're a liberal and a believer, or a conservative atheist? Are there any conservative atheists? What of people who start out liberal and become conservative later in life? Or of atheists who convert?
But I have to say I'm not in the least surprised at this result. |
I'm a conservative atheist.
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| Bunbury wrote: |
| free radical wrote: |
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| free radical wrote: |
| Hard to imagine a genius being a believer, and that will pull the average higher. |
Would graduating from Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude require a genius IQ? |
hardly. |
Just as I thought. Obama's a dummy. |
Mmm yes those are the only two options. |
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"more intelligent people are no more or no less likely to value such evolutionarily familiar entities as marriage, family, children, and friends"
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"men with higher IQs tend to be what the researcher calls "sexually exclusive," or being true to one's mate and refraining from philandering."
Reading between the lines: They would if they could, but the intelligent men simply aren't getting much.  "refraining"
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| ishmaelblues |
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| "evolutionarily familiar entities" how cold of a phrase for every one meaningful in life, Antony Flew came around, and hes Dawkin's big daddy. |
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Do you also post in English?
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Just to hammer an old hobby horse.
I don't think those IQ differences are much at all. However, being intelligent is not the same as being rational. Intelligence is about the ability to manipulate data mentally. If that data is crap, the GIGO principle applies.
Lots of highly intelligent people believe weird things, such as religion. Surveys of Mensa Clubs have shown this clearly.
What I would like to see done as a study is for someone to design a test to measure RQ - rationality, which is the ability to see what is real, rather than just manipulating data. Then test to see if people with a high RQ are more likely to be atheists. |
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skeptic - the problem with an RQ test is that the test only recognises what the designer of the test considers rational.
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