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    'The Battle of Hastings in 1066 was the last successful invasion of England and it was by the French.'
    Well, apart from the fact it wasn't and the Normans, not the French were responsible.

    But the French and the Welsh were responsible for a much later invasion. This ended in the Battle of Woodbury Hill.
    Walking there at the weekend I found the information board is now barely legible and not many people ever go up there.

    http://hwiccianarchaeology.com/the-b...woodbury-hill/

    Do you have any other contenders for forgotten history?


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    Near to the historical town of Warwick with its castle and Elizabethan buildings attracting tourists from all over is a low hill called Blacklow. Close by in a copse stands a monument - Piers Gaveston's Cross.
    Access is by trespass only, but I've never encountered a problem. A piece of English history remembered and few people have ever seen it.

    https://www.ourwarwickshire.org.uk/c...veston-cross-5


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    "...during the Second Anglo-Dutch War in June 1667.......The Dutch, under nominal command of Willem Joseph van Ghent and Lieutenant-Admiral Michiel de Ruyter, over several days bombarded and captured the town of Sheerness, sailed up the Thames estuary to Gravesend, then sailed into the River Medway to Chatham and Gillingham, where they engaged fortifications with cannon fire, burned or captured three capital ships and ten more ships of the line, and captured and towed away the flagship of the English fleet, HMS Royal Charles."

    " Politically, the raid was disastrous for King Charles' war plans and led to a quick end to the war and a favourable peace for the Dutch. It was one of the worst defeats in the Royal Navy's history, and one of the worst suffered by the British military. Horace George Franks called it the "most serious defeat it has ever had in its home waters" "


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    "...during the Second Anglo-Dutch War in June 1667.......The Dutch, under nominal command of Willem Joseph van Ghent and Lieutenant-Admiral Michiel de Ruyter, over several days bombarded and captured the town of Sheerness, sailed up the Thames estuary to Gravesend, then sailed into the River Medway to Chatham and Gillingham, where they engaged fortifications with cannon fire, burned or captured three capital ships and ten more ships of the line, and captured and towed away the flagship of the English fleet, HMS Royal Charles."

    " Politically, the raid was disastrous for King Charles' war plans and led to a quick end to the war and a favourable peace for the Dutch. It was one of the worst defeats in the Royal Navy's history, and one of the worst suffered by the British military. Horace George Franks called it the "most serious defeat it has ever had in its home waters" "


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway
    Wasn't this the war where England got control of New Netherlands (now New York)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    "...during the Second Anglo-Dutch War in June 1667.......The Dutch, under nominal command of Willem Joseph van Ghent and Lieutenant-Admiral Michiel de Ruyter, over several days bombarded and captured the town of Sheerness, sailed up the Thames estuary to Gravesend, then sailed into the River Medway to Chatham and Gillingham, where they engaged fortifications with cannon fire, burned or captured three capital ships and ten more ships of the line, and captured and towed away the flagship of the English fleet, HMS Royal Charles."

    " Politically, the raid was disastrous for King Charles' war plans and led to a quick end to the war and a favourable peace for the Dutch. It was one of the worst defeats in the Royal Navy's history, and one of the worst suffered by the British military. Horace George Franks called it the "most serious defeat it has ever had in its home waters" "


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway
    Wasn't this the war where England got control of New Netherlands (now New York)?
    Could be

    "New Amsterdam was renamed New York on September 8, 1664, in honor of the Duke of York (later James II of England), in whose name the English had captured it. After the Second Anglo-Dutch War of 1665–1667, England and the United Provinces of the Netherlands agreed to the status quo in the Treaty of Breda. The English kept the island of Manhattan, the Dutch giving up their claim to the town and the rest of the colony, while the English formally abandoned Surinam in South America, and the island of Run in the East Indies to the Dutch, confirming their control of the valuable Spice Islands. Today much of what was once New Amsterdam is New York City."


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam

    But ,according to that N Amsterdam was renamed N York some 3 years before the Raid on the Medway.

    Says there that there were two Anglo-Dutch wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    "...during the Second Anglo-Dutch War in June 1667.......The Dutch, under nominal command of Willem Joseph van Ghent and Lieutenant-Admiral Michiel de Ruyter, over several days bombarded and captured the town of Sheerness
    But was this an invasion? I thought it was more of an invitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    "...during the Second Anglo-Dutch War in June 1667.......The Dutch, under nominal command of Willem Joseph van Ghent and Lieutenant-Admiral Michiel de Ruyter, over several days bombarded and captured the town of Sheerness
    But was this an invasion? I thought it was more of an invitation.
    I don't know personally but according to that link it was a raid during the "war".

    What "invitation" ? By whom to whom?
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    I made a mistake and was thinking of 1688 and the so called Glorious Revolution.
    The invasion was still more of a sea war over trade.

    However, I have a connection to Charles II and a piece of forgotten history which I understand may be soon be better known. Charles was defeated at the Battle of Worcester in 1651 by Cromwell's army. Visit the site today and all you can see are river meadows and an information board. But move a mile or two away to the rear of the churchyard at Powick and look behind the tower and there is evidence of musket or cannon ball marks in the stonework. These were probably from Cromwell's troops. Sorry I can't find any images.
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