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  1. #1 Guess who's coming to dinner 
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    This is a novel idea conceived and published by The New Yorker in in 1927 > Ok that's made up: Who are the ten guests you would like to spend an evening with ? I don't have a list yet; I plan to steal yours. Ghosts, phantoms, everyone welcome. Mythical, historic, any 10 guests. Be practical, though; think twice about how these minds would mesh, together. Give reasons why you want these guests.


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    think twice about how these minds would mess, together. Give reasons why you want these guests.
    OK. I'd want several dinner parties. Literary, scientific, social justice, philosophy would be the first four.

    Easiest to put together would be a social justice/equal rights group. And I'll set the criteria as 5 women and 5 men. And the conversational guide would be how everyone sees the progress they have or haven't seen since their time, what they would have liked to get done if they'd lived longer.

    In sort of date order.

    (OK, not so easy. Had to knock William Wilberforce out. I doubt he'd be thrilled with the conversation of the rest of the group. And a couple of other contenders went the same way.)

    John Stuart Mill
    Elizabeth Garrett Anderson
    Princess Louise (Queen Victoria's rebellious daughter)
    Frederick Pethick-Lawrence
    Rosa Parks
    JFK (or maybe RFK)
    MLK
    Betty Friedan
    Germaine Greer
    Geoffrey Robertson


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    Funny that you should be first to post, adelady; I was thinking of your B. Franklin byline about courage. That's an excellent party list. I can't see why all of you shouldn't have a wonderful time. Thanks
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    think twice about how these minds would mess, together. Give reasons why you want these guests.
    OK. I'd want several dinner parties. Literary, scientific, social justice, philosophy would be the first four.

    Easiest to put together would be a social justice/equal rights group. And I'll set the criteria as 5 women and 5 men. And the conversational guide would be how everyone sees the progress they have or haven't seen since their time, what they would have liked to get done if they'd lived longer.

    In sort of date order.

    (OK, not so easy. Had to knock William Wilberforce out. I doubt he'd be thrilled with the conversation of the rest of the group. And a couple of other contenders went the same way.)

    John Stuart Mill
    Elizabeth Garrett Anderson
    Princess Louise (Queen Victoria's rebellious daughter)
    Frederick Pethick-Lawrence
    Rosa Parks
    JFK (or maybe RFK)
    MLK
    Betty Friedan
    Germaine Greer
    Geoffrey Robertson
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    I'm not sure if I can think of ten, but there are definitely about half a dozen fictional characters I'd invite to dinner.

    Delenn from Babylon 5.
    Da'an from Earth: Final Conflict.
    Zhaan from Farscape.
    And Jesus & Buddha, just because.
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    Sorry< I meant Churchill. Anyway Ben Franklin would be on my list. And probably Churchill as well. Maybe I should just give my ten.
    B. Franklin-for his wisdom and pragmatism and wit
    *Galileo
    *Cincinnatus
    *Descartes
    *Mark Twain
    *Groucho Marx
    George Bernard Shaw-for his bitingly honest wit, deep intellect
    David Niven-for his charm and grace
    *Mom -embarrassed I forgot them
    *Dad "" " " "



    I thought an even gender number was a good idea.
    List subject to change at any time
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    Edward Bear.
    And, for the same reasons:
    Tigger, Eeyore, Wol, Piglet and Kanga.

    Maybe Gary Gygax, but only so that I could teach him how to use a dictionary 1 and he wouldn't have inflicted stirge on the world. The f*cking word is strige.
    And Roger Zelazny, just because. And to thank him.

    1 And probably kick him in the nuts: once he'd got over his "illiteracy" he went completely the other way and swamped his fiction writing with unnecessarily obfuscatory language 2.
    2 As opposed to, say Stephen R. Donaldson or Neal Stephenson.
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    David Attenborough because he's bloody fantastic
    Brian Cox - smart and gorgeous :-)
    Dara O'Briain - funny and clever
    Alice Herz-Sommer - for her admirable qualities
    Vernon Johnson (an old boyfriend of mine who died a while back - fantastic fella)
    Mum and dad (always - it wouldn't be right without them)
    Susan B Anthony
    Golda Meir
    Aung San Suu Kyi
    The last three don't really need reasons why
    Christopher Hitchens - funny, brilliant and my kinda bloke

    I cheated and had 11 because that makes the party up to 12 and its always better to have an even number for when you have to split into teams to play games

    Reserve guests would be Daniel Kahnemann, B.F. Skinner and Nick Lane
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    Rene Descartes (1596 – 1650) Rene Descartes was a French philosopher and mathematician. Descartes made a significant contribution to the philosophy of rationalism. Descartes' Meditations was ground-breaking because he was willing to doubt previous certainties and tried to prove their validity through logic.

    Sir Isaac Newton. (1642-1726) Newton made studies in mathematics, optics, physics, and astronomy. In his Principia Mathematica, published in 1687, he laid the foundations for classical mechanics, explaining law of gravity and the Laws of Motion.

    Mikhail Gorbachev (1931 - ) Leader of Soviet Union. Oversaw transition from Communism in Eastern Europe.Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) - US writer and polymath,

    Benjamin Franklin
    (1706 - 1790) - US writer and inventor

    George Orwell
    (1903 – 1950) - English author

    Grandmother

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    Leonardo Da Vinci (1452 – 1519) Artist and renaissance man. Da Vinci made many scientific discoveries. Da Vinci was so far ahead of his time, some of his contributions were not actually used.

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    Jesus.
    Lenin.
    Stalin.
    Hitler.
    Churchill.
    Moses.
    Marx.
    Nietzsche.
    Mao.
    Michael Gove.
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    My acquaintances on this forum firstly. Though, picking historically...

    Oscar Wilde
    Groucho Marx
    Peter Sellers
    Douglas Adams
    Carl Sagan
    William Sidis
    Ernest Hemingway
    Bertrand Russell
    Miguel Cervantes
    Julia Child (To fix the food).
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    I would invite these 10 people (the first four for scientific discussions, the latter for philosophical discussions):

    - Frederick Sanger (1918 - 2013): He won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry twice and made ground-breaking innovations in life sciences.
    - Stanley Miller (1930 - 2007): He is a key figure in the investigations to the origin of life; his research spanned nearly five decades.
    - Rosalind Franklin (1920 - 1958): Without her hard work, Watson and Crick would not have been able to describe the structure of DNA.
    - Valentina Tereshkova (b. 1937): First woman in space, who managed to collect a lot of rewards and recognitions after the Vostok 6 mission (1963).

    - Confucius (551 - 479 BCE): Chinese philosopher who devised the principles of Confucianism, a philosophical-ethical Eastern system.
    - René Descartes (1596 - 1650): Without him, I had to use another username.
    - Robert Ingersoll (1833 - 1899): His views on humanism and his focus on freethought in his numerous essays are very interesting.
    - Guatama Buddha (??? - ??? BCE): It would be interesting to have an actual discussion with him, instead of relying on works delivered from oral tradition.
    - Hannibal Lecter (N/A): Apart from trying to comprehend him, he can eat a liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

    - Zooey Deschanel (b. 1980): Because no dinner is complete without a fine lady.
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    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
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    Miguel de Cervantes.
    Federico Garcia Lorca.
    Galileo.
    Giordano Bruno.
    Bukowsky (if he's sober or we're both drunk).
    Tom Waits.
    Leonard Cohen.
    Brett Denevi (weird name but never mind; she'd sit next to me or we could just invite the others another day).
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    On a serious note for me it has to be:
    Kierkegaard (would be interesting contrast with Kant, his religious views are also interesting)
    Miguel de Unamuno
    Nietzsche (would be interested to know what he thought about fascism)
    Dostoevsky (political views would be a nice discussion with Davila and Maurras)
    Wittgenstein (duh, it's wittgenstein!)
    Kant (apprently a good conversationalist and would like to see what he thought about modern society)
    Husserl (would like to know what he made of modern day phenomenology)
    Nicolas Gomez Davila (blazing wit and fierce critic)
    Disraeli (love this guy)
    Charles Maurras (would like to know if he was a proto-fascist or if he would have completely condemnd fascism)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trivium View Post
    Jesus.
    Lenin.
    Stalin.
    Hitler.
    Churchill.
    Moses.
    Marx.
    Nietzsche.
    Mao.
    Michael Gove.

    If you invited all those individuals to a dinner, then the result would be very interesting.
    One could practically create a movie from that premise.
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
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    This would result in a food-fight, at the least. Have Jesus turn the wine back into water at the start. It may help.
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    Jesus.
    Lenin.
    Stalin.
    Hitler.
    Churchill.
    Moses.
    Marx.
    Nietzsche.
    Mao.
    Michael Gove.
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