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    In the American Revolution I believe the French aided us in our war against the British for independence. It is ironic that French culture is not more prevalent in American culture. Why is that? Any ideas?


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    The population of the U.S. at the time was mostly immigrants from U.K. The culture reflected that.


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    That was a rather odd alliance. The only thing the French and the Americans had in common was that they were fighting Britain. France was still a monarchy, and didn't have much in common with a new democracy. They had recently lost the 7 years war with Britain, known in America as the French-Indian war. Actually, many of the colonists including George Washington had fought against France, which made it even stranger. But apparently there was still some bad blood between France and Britain, so the French seized the opportunity.

    There were a few French colonists in America but not that many in the US. More of them were in Canada, so not that much of a French influence here.
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    French culture has a pretty big influence in New England and Louisiana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876 View Post
    In the American Revolution I believe the French aided us in our war against the British for independence. It is ironic that French culture is not more prevalent in American culture. Why is that? Any ideas?
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    After the fall of France in WW2, it became popular in the US to characterize the French as incompetent cowards. A not terribly rational judgement, but real nonetheless. With the constant ridicule of all things French, positive French influences in US culture have gradually withered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876 View Post
    In the American Revolution I believe the French aided us in our war against the British for independence. It is ironic that French culture is not more prevalent in American culture. Why is that? Any ideas?
    I happened upon this Wikipedia article for a different reason. From Wikipedia on Montpelier, Vermont —
    It was Colonel Davis who selected the name Montpelier after the French city Montpellier. There was a general enthusiasm for things French as a result of the country's aid during the American Revolution. The settlement grew quickly, and by 1791 the population reached 117.

    In 1825, the Marquis de Lafayette visited Montpelier on a triumphal tour of America, 50 years after the Revolutionary War.
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    The New England states pretty much border Canada, which is where the French influence comes in.
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    Well France was one of the founding nations for both Canada and the USA. Consider for a moment how much French influence you have in places like Louisiana. Much of the States now thought of as English were originally explored by people like Samuel de Champlain, Pierre-Esprit Radisson, and Médard Chouart des Groseilliers.

    Later, after the English conquest of Quebec, the passing of The Quebec Act (1774) was one of the main reasons for the American Revolutionary War which was when the USA illegally seceded from British North America.
    Quebec Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Oops almost forgot to mention René-Robert Cavelier, Sieur de La Salle.

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    Anyhow, you see the french influence in a lot of the place names. Baton Rouge means Red Stick, Des Moines is on the "River of the Maingonis" (or in gutter French La Rivierre des Moines).

    Edit, I am guessing that it was after the revolution that American imigration policy switched to more German settlers and fewer French or English.
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    French Fries!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    French Fries!
    Actually Belgium Fries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan hunter View Post
    Later, after the English conquest of Quebec, the passing of The Quebec Act (1774) was one of the main reasons for the American Revolutionary War which was when the USA illegally seceded from British North America.
    The Revolutionary War was illegal? Who knew.
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    i guess the institutions of Britain were more entrenched....like slavery, political stuff, language, legal traditions, etc.

    I suppose they could have done out of gratitude, but then probably would have been too problematic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    That was a rather odd alliance. The only thing the French and the Americans had in common was that they were fighting Britain. France was still a monarchy, and didn't have much in common with a new democracy. They had recently lost the 7 years war with Britain, known in America as the French-Indian war. Actually, many of the colonists including George Washington had fought against France, which made it even stranger. But apparently there was still some bad blood between France and Britain, so the French seized the opportunity.

    There were a few French colonists in America but not that many in the US. More of them were in Canada, so not that much of a French influence here.
    I guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend holds true more often than not lol..
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