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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    Which Lynx-Fox thinks is convincing evidence that he's religious...
    In combination with his writings about his earlier skepticism and how he came to be Christian, and more than 20 years of acting without fail as a Christian...yes.

    When a man takes the time to
    write about his deep personal journey, repeatedly talks and than walks his talk for more than a generation .... yes I tend to believe them. What's rather ironic is the factions of the extreme right are so blinded by hatred (for what ever reason--and I have my own ideas from my inside seat as a lifelong republican) that they'd doubt and even reject one of the better examples of a Christian President in our nation's history.
    Either that, or it shows he at least has enough respect for Christians to write a whole work of fiction on it, and he's bothered to study Christian behavior enough to know how to fake it.

    Seems like a lot of effort. I would think if he could achieve that, that he'd also be able to achieve other interesting things.

    Or there's option C: He found a good ghost writer and/or purchased the rights to someone else's autobiographical statements on religion. (Got to be about a bazillion people out there who gradually decided on becoming Christian, and later wrote about it.)

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    The best actors/actresses in the world operate out of Washington, D.C., and parade before our eyes shamelessly, usually successfully hiding facts the citizenry would give eye-teeth to know. For example, when Ag. Secretary Ron Brown's plane plowed into a mountainside outside of Sarajevo, I think it was, our country's official statement claimed a fierce storm resulted in misguidance. Both governments involved studied the accident extensively; the other official statement claimed the plane had been purposely misguided by an air traffic controller; that individual committed "suicide" immediately, the airport manager "resigned", but was later found dead, their official proclamation called the plane's loss an act of murder.

    At a funeral memorial gathering in Washington, an unsuspecting President Clinton emerged, unknowingly on camera, walking down the stairs, jovially laughing and carrying on with the person next to him; immediately, upon seeing the videocamera, his countenance changed to one of mortal chagrin and humility, but, too late. We all saw it. One of his best friends was dead, and he was happy about it. Ron Brown's wife spoke up later; her husband had feared "retaliation".

    So, you "tend to believe them". You are pitiable. jocular
    ROFL. You believe that crap? Or are you trolling (please fess up). Sorry. As for the crash...if you'd ever spent a year in that part of the world, you'd know how treacherous the terrain is. (I was at a Convoy Support center in Croatia when it happened). The simplest explanations of either controller or pilot error resulted in Brown's crash. Never heard of the Clinton story but ever been to a funeral? Ever chuckled over a past good times with them--if you did, I guess other might say you were glad they are dead? And wrap a conspiracy around it.

    But I suppose it's possible for someone to be so cynical about their elected leaders that no matter what the person does it can't be considered in good faith or penetrate and be evaluated with sound reasoning.
    Someone looking to cause an accident might also take into account how treacherous the terrain is. I like how you chose the word "treacherous".

    On the other hand, if it was 1993. It's sometimes easy to forget how truly primitive computers were back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    This country is far from perfect. However, having travelled pretty extensively and having family born and raised in another country. I'll keep what I have, even with it's problems.
    True enough. However, the family you speak of was born and raised under Communist leadership, was it not? Supposedly, common folk in those countries today enjoy at least a similar level of "freedom" as we do here, some considerably MORE, from what friends tell me (about Czech Republic). joc
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    Quote Originally Posted by jocular View Post
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    This country is far from perfect. However, having travelled pretty extensively and having family born and raised in another country. I'll keep what I have, even with it's problems.
    True enough. However, the family you speak of was born and raised under Communist leadership, was it not? Supposedly, common folk in those countries today enjoy at least a similar level of "freedom" as we do here, some considerably MORE, from what friends tell me (about Czech Republic). joc
    Originally, not until WWII both the Communists and the Nazi's were there.

    Eventually they have enjoyed to some extent more freedom, but in different ways possibly than here. Culture is different. Slovenia, before WWII was originally part of Austro-Hungary.

    Father was born here of SLovenian parents. Mother born and raised there, through the war.
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    you have proof about mother Theresa? she was a non believer?
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    I firmly agree that Obama is worst President to ever govern the U.S. Here's a comparison: in three years, Pearl Harbor was bombed, and blah blah blah we won World War II. For Obama, it has taken him three years to start a health care program and get the website running, neither of which work well. So...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabodriver17 View Post
    I firmly agree that Obama is worst President to ever govern the U.S. Here's a comparison: in three years, Pearl Harbor was bombed, and blah blah blah we won World War II. For Obama, it has taken him three years to start a health care program and get the website running, neither of which work well. So...
    Surely, you're thinking of W! it took three months just for W to start a war with the WRONG country that attacked us!
    How come critical thinking escapes so many when it comes to politics , but you are all sharp as hell when it comes to math and science?
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    For the record, Obama writes the majority of his own speeches. You can hear his "main" speech writer attest to this on the Daily Show.

    As far as him using a teleprompter... how ironic is it that the people that got others to complain about this read their complaint off of a teleprompter?
    Being prepared with a teleprompter is much better than covering his hand in ink (Sarah Palin) and sputtering out sentence fragments and nonsensical gibberish (George W Bush)

    The only reason W didn't use a teleprompter is because it probably can't display pictures. I'm going on record, the man is illiterate! anybody every hear/see him read? I think not.
    what was his wife's campaign? combating illiteracy? probably because of what snores next to her in bed.
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