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Thread: Name Your Favorite President and Explain Why

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    I have many favorite presidents:

    Most outspoken/brave: Teddy Roosevelt (Meat Inspection Act, Environmentalism, Antitrust movement, took a bullet to the chest, fought in Cuba)

    Most politically savvy: LBJ (would bribe, blackmail and cajole opponents and charm friends to get his way)

    Most valuable Moderate: Eisenhower (expanded Social Security, gave us the Interstate System, was not afraid to wage war but avoided use of extreme force, kept a balanced budget)

    Most valuable Progressive: FDR (The New Deal)

    let me know your selections and the reasons why...


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    I don't have a favourite president (not being from the US doesn't give me much of an insight), but I do have a soft spot for your (one and only) emperor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    I don't have a favourite president (not being from the US doesn't give me much of an insight), but I do have a soft spot for your (one and only) emperor.
    Would that be the Emperor of Ice Cream?

    The Emperor of Ice-Cream by Wallace Stevens

    Call the roller of big cigars,
    The muscular one, and bid him whip
    In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
    Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
    As they are used to wear, and let the boys
    Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
    Let be be finale of seem.
    The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
    Take from the dresser of deal,
    Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet
    On which she embroidered fantails once
    And spread it so as to cover her face.
    If her horny feet protrude, they come
    To show how cold she is, and dumb.
    Let the lamp affix its beam.
    The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    Would that be the Emperor of Ice Cream?
    Did he have currency issued in his name?
    Abolish congress?
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    He opened a string of shops featuring 36 flavors.
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
    Prof Richard Feynman (1979) .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    He opened a string of shops featuring 36 flavors.
    I mean your real emperor.
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    Napoleon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikepotter84 View Post
    Napoleon?
    Geez, don't you guys know your own history?
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    Joshua Abraham Norton (c. 1819 – January 8, 1880), the self-proclaimed Imperial Majesty Emperor Norton I, was a celebrated citizen of San Francisco, California, who in 1859 proclaimed himself "Emperor of these United States" and subsequently "Protector of Mexico".
    Though he was considered insane, the citizens of San Francisco celebrated his regal presence and his proclamations.

    Things have always been strange in San Francisco.

    Is that the guy who went on to make anti-virus software?


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    Yep, Norton's the one.
    Anyone who gets a name-check from Neil Gaiman is okay by me.
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    lol..that guy is awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikepotter84 View Post
    lol..that guy is awesome
    Norton? Or Gaiman?
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    I like every single dead president because they can't screw things up any longer, they have already made their mark and thankfully their gone. The living ones I do not like because their still around screwing things up and they will until their gone as well.
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    So you think that none of them contributed anything meaningful to modern society? That's laughable.
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    Thomas Jefferson. I am quite fond of a saying he spoke several time in public: "That government governs best which governs least." Of course, Jefferson being Jefferson, he stole it from someone else (the original statement is usually attributed to Thomas Paine). The man was a great manipulator and politician, not a description I would usually consider flattering, but he had a way of using his talents in good causes, even while trying to steal the credit for doing so. He let Napoleon, no dummy, talk him into the most favorable land deal in US history (arguably ANY country's history), the Louisiana purchase. He presided over America's first overseas military adventure, the expedition to put down the Barbary pirates. He got congress to pass the first significant measure restricting slavery, banning the importation of slaves to the United States. And all the while, he set a standard for humility that would be equalled by few subsequent presidents. He would receive unscheduled visitors to the White House wearing socks and nightclothes, and went to pains to keep the White House furnishings modest. It was all a politician's spin to create the right image, of course, but still, he promoted the idea the president SHOULD be humble, an important notion in the history of the US presidency. In short, the guy accomplished numerous things I find admirable, and yet had a quirky style that makes him seem more human. He deserves his place on Mount Rushmore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikepotter84 View Post
    So you think that none of them contributed anything meaningful to modern society? That's laughable.
    Ask any Native American about all of the treaties that were signed by Presidents and never were adhered to and only removed the Native Americans from their lands to other areas where they soon died or had a very hard life. If you think that taking away others properties and rights then you are the one who should study history more because you only see the white washed version of the governments history and what it did to Native Americans. It also committed genocide amongst the Natives as well if you would research it you'll find it hidden under all of the good things that Presidents did.

    Scalping was done by white people to be paid by the American military to show they killed the Native Americans not the other way around which is what you have been taught.

    Everyone wants to see the good but rarely looks for the bad in people and you're just another who is like that. If you only knew of the things Presidents did or did not do that they want kept secret you'd see things clearer or at least from another perspective as I do.
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    "Name Your Favorite President"


    how about President Salvador Allende
    (Granted greater access to basic deducation and higher education for all children, Adult education, fight illeteracy and malnutrition, women's right, etc. He also had the merit or being open to unconventional new ideas, such as the pre-internet-cybernetics Project Cybersyn by Stafford Beer)


    Also President Charles De Gaulles, while for United States of America presidents I would say Franklin Delano Roosevelt (New Deal, etc) and John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Space Program, not starting WW3)

    (Of course there are many people that contributed in many ways, just like Neil Armstrong may have a great deal of merit for courage and pioneering spirit, but a great deal of people were involved in a coordinated effort to make his landing on the moon possible, it is a cultural feature/particularity/attribute to have a very accentuated "One Man" perspective hero/celebrity view, which is more heightened in some cultures, and less so in others)

    Btw, for people more familiar with US history than I am, which US President was the most anti-Federalist (anti-central government, top-down imposition of rules)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Napoleon?
    Geez, don't you guys know your own history?
    Indeed, Jeff Bridges was, and still it, a great man.
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    which US President was the most anti-Federalist (anti-central government, top-down imposition of rules
    Jefferson, despite the Louisiana Purchase. Read about his early battles with Alexander Hamilton when he was Secretary of State under Washington.
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    Jefferson


    Thanks, I will certainly read about him.
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    Probarbly Franklin D. Roosevelt, he deserves great praise for what he achieved with the New Deal, his ability and resolution helped to drag America out of the Great Depression in way that left them stronger and more able to face the global challenges that were still to come. But not being an American myself, and looking at the question from a British perspective, I'd have to say that FDR would be my favourite President because of his leadership during the Second world War. I don't think without him that many of us would still enjoy the freedoms that we do today, in fact I think the world could well be a very different place indeed.

    It was his skill and intelligence that helped to beat both the Japanese and the Nazi's to ensure the allies won the war, if there had been a lesser man as President at the time then the outcome of the war could have remained in the balance.

    It is also because of the support that FDR enabled America to give to Britain during the Second World War, both militarily and financial, that helped to forge a strong bond between our countries resulting in them standing & fighting side by side ever since.
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    Lincoln. If for no other reason than the simple beauty of the Gettysburg Address. To me, one of the greatest speeches ever made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    Lincoln. If for no other reason than the simple beauty of the Gettysburg Address. To me, one of the greatest speeches ever made.
    Which of course leads to the question of which version of the Gettysburg Address you prefer.
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    My favourite President of all time had to be JFK, after all, it was his Moon speech which gave America the will to win the space race. He used a brilliant strategy, by mobilizing America into a manned moon mission by creating a situation in which there would be no turning back without completely destroying the USA's credibility around the world and the Soviet Union.

    I chose him because he started the long journey to Space exploration and the advancement of science.
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    JFK was a jackass who got us involved in vietnam and almost got us involved in ww3. He was a womanizing sob who prefered anyone to his wife and mother of his children. One of his favorite pleasures was sex in the bathtub wherein he would hold his sexual partner's head underwater so she would thrash about alot.
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    Franklin D. Roosevelt
    Eisenhower
    Lincoln
    George Washington....he took a huge shit job on....thanks George!
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    oops Franklin for the Great Depresson
    Eisenhower, because he was great than people realize
    Lincoln because he saw what needed to be done and though may have not don't it totally out of heart...did it anyways
    Already said George's

    Kennedy.not for his works...but for his ability to bring people to one mind and purpose. I don't think another President has had that charisma since
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    JFK was a jackass who got us involved in vietnam and almost got us involved in ww3. He was a womanizing sob who prefered anyone to his wife and mother of his children. One of his favorite pleasures was sex in the bathtub wherein he would hold his sexual partner's head underwater so she would thrash about alot.
    You seem to be mistaken... The Vietnam war started in 1955, during the presidency of Truman. JFK never involved America in Vietnam, he became president 6 years into Vietnam. I am sure that in the mind of JFK, he was sure that the Soviets would not be so stupid as to start a Nuclear war with America, please read up on M.A.D.

    The aft of your arguement is invalid considering the subject matter of this thread. We are not discussing the personal lives of these presidents, but rather their Presidency. Please remember that.
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    Sam Houston.

    President of the Republic of Texas from 1836-38 and 1841-44. Why?...he was just a bad ass Mo-fo.
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    You seem to be mistaken
    first us troops independent of the department of state, in vietnam 1961 by order of JFK (400 special forces as "trainers")
    in 1962 he authorized the U.S. Military Assistance Command-VietNam
    then, Kennedy signed the Foreign Assistance Act of 1962, which provides "…military assistance to countries which are on the rim of the Communist world and under direct attack."
    By the time JFK died troop strength was up to 16k

    previously, we had the usis (later usia), and the maag (later maag-vietnam)
    all under state

    as long as we are riding on mr. Peabody's wayback machine, lets examine Kennedy's action : In the U.S. the chief lobbying efforts, on behalf of the Republic of Vietnam and President Diem, were those of the American Friends of Vietnam (AFV), an organization created in 1955. It is interesting to note that among its leadership was Senator John F. Kennedy, soon to become president. While AFV promoted more assistance to Diem, other Americans carried out advisory roles in Vietnam. They advised economic, political, and military counterparts there. Examples include the training of police and security forces of the Republic of Vietnam, which involved advisers from Michigan State University, foreign aid programs in support of agriculture, and advising on a new constitution.

    No example of our advisory role before 1961, however, is better than the military training of South Vietnam's own Special Forces. The mission of the first American Special Forces in Vietnam was to train fewer than one hundred Vietnamese soldiers. The first training center was in Nha Trang. The Americans arrived from Okinawa in the summer of 1957, and by 1960 they were training more than fifty Ranger units of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN). Although this aspect of the advisory experience began in the Eisenhower presidency, it was greatly expanded under the keen interest and direction of President Kennedy later.
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    Abraham Lincoln -- mainly because he ended slavery and created a progressive economy. He seemed to be a man of his word, very honorable. Also, he struck me as humble, and was a true leader of the people, for the people. He was a man of justice and equality for all. There is so much good to say about him!
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    Washington, because without him there would BE no nation.
    Lincoln, because he preserved the nation.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt, because he led the US from depression to victory over despotism.
    Jefferson, for his brilliant mind and his pursuit of science
    Reagan, for his hair.
    It gets murky from here on.
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    That would have to be President Josiah Edward "Jed" Bartlet, PhD., D.Hum.Litt.
    Characterized by manifest integrity, quick witticisms, a fierce intellect, and compassionate stoicism, Bartlet is widely acclaimed by critics and political commentators alike as the "most popular Democratic president in recent memory."

    The fact that he is completely fictional instead of just partly fictional also raises my opinion of him.
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    I like his pears, too. I'm not sure Reagan was 'real', either. Seemed more like one of those false-front towns in old westerns. Fake
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    That would have to be President Josiah Edward "Jed" Bartlet, PhD., D.Hum.Litt.
    Characterized by manifest integrity, quick witticisms, a fierce intellect, and compassionate stoicism, Bartlet is widely acclaimed by critics and political commentators alike as the "most popular Democratic president in recent memory."

    The fact that he is completely fictional instead of just partly fictional also raises my opinion of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    I don't have a favourite president (not being from the US doesn't give me much of an insight), but I do have a soft spot for your (one and only) emperor.
    Who ?
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    I think he means Emperor Norton.

    And I say Emperor Norton was the best Emperor the world has ever produced.
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    I don't have a favourite president (not being from the US doesn't give me much of an insight), but I do have a soft spot for your (one and only) emperor.
    Who ?
    The posts following that one gave his identity.
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    I think he means Emperor Norton.

    And I say Emperor Norton was the best Emperor the world has ever produced.
    GENE? *HOWLING* He was the Emperor in our children's theatre piece...."The Emperor's Nightingale"

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    Lincoln. If for no other reason than the simple beauty of the Gettysburg Address. To me, one of the greatest speeches ever made.
    Lincoln, Without a doubt the best writer of this union. Some of his writings bring shivers to me. most notably his letter to one Mrs Bixby. I know there is some debate as to whether he wrote it but as far as I'm concerned he did.

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    I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle.
    I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save.
    I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.
    Yours, very sincerely and respectfully,
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    Good call, grumpy. Great excerpt/example. But Jefferson was also a hell of a writer. Different times, though, different issues at hand.
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    Lincoln. If for no other reason than the simple beauty of the Gettysburg Address. To me, one of the greatest speeches ever made.
    Lincoln, Without a doubt the best writer of this union. Some of his writings bring shivers to me. most notably his letter to one Mrs Bixby. I know there is some debate as to whether he wrote it but as far as I'm concerned he did.

    Executive Mansion,
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    Dear Madam,--
    I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle.
    I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save.
    I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.
    Yours, very sincerely and respectfully,
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    C'mon Duck, from among the real ones. You don't need to be American. Wouldn't even recommend it to you. Use any language except your native tongue so I can understand you. Except Swahili, which I've actually studied a little. No shit.
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    I don't have a favourite president (not being from the US doesn't give me much of an insight), but I do have a soft spot for your (one and only) emperor.
    Who ?
    The posts following that one gave his identity.
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    Emilio Francesca Glaciates. He is my favorite president because he isn't real.
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    On JFK.

    There are good arguments to be made that his actions lead to a significant escalation of the cold war in a time where the hostilities could have been winding down. and he did misappropriate funds/time with rampant womanizing. He handled the Bay of Pigs crisis with incredible cowardice not befitting his military valor. His impotence in actually committing to the Civil Rights reform he believed in makes me lose some respect for him, but that was changing near the end of his Presidency and I believe we would have seen him champion it in more than just word if he had finished his term. I respect banking reforms he worked toward and he strongly believed in the space program, though it may have been purely political/tactical. Regardless, it turned out to be the right move.

    At the end of the day, he's like most presidents. I don't really like him, but he did some good things and was just a human being with too much authority.
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    FDR for obvious reasons(i hope). Lead America through WWII while at the same time battling the Great Depression. He also instated the Housing Projects to help low income African American families, but of course this back fired. Granted it was still a noble effort.

    He was twelve years president for a reason and he died in 1945 i believe as a result of his constant commanding. He was literally deteriorating while he was commanding.
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    JFK: he was cute
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    I was going to say Putin, but then I remembered this meme:

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    i am not from the Us but i would definetively say Abraham lincoln, since he never lied exaclly the opposite of me, every word i say is a lie, practiaclly :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Painter View Post
    i am not from the Us but i would definetively say Abraham lincoln, since he never lied exaclly the opposite of me, every word i say is a lie, practiaclly :P
    If you always lie and you say Lincoln never lied, does that mean Lincoln always lied? *headsplosion*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    i am not from the Us but i would definetively say Abraham lincoln, since he never lied exaclly the opposite of me, every word i say is a lie, practiaclly :P
    If you always lie and you say Lincoln never lied, does that mean Lincoln always lied? *headsplosion*
    Irl I have no need in lieing online only my name is anonymously
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Painter View Post
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    i am not from the Us but i would definetively say Abraham lincoln, since he never lied exaclly the opposite of me, every word i say is a lie, practiaclly :P
    If you always lie and you say Lincoln never lied, does that mean Lincoln always lied? *headsplosion*
    Irl I have no need in lieing online only my name is anonymously
    It's still weird that a guy who once said:

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    if i had a button that said press and america would burn, i would press it without hesitation.
    ...would have a favorite American president...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    i am not from the Us but i would definetively say Abraham lincoln, since he never lied exaclly the opposite of me, every word i say is a lie, practiaclly :P
    If you always lie and you say Lincoln never lied, does that mean Lincoln always lied? *headsplosion*
    Irl I have no need in lieing online only my name is anonymously
    It's still weird that a guy who once said:

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    if i had a button that said press and america would burn, i would press it without hesitation.
    ...would have a favorite American president...
    Lol not everyone is bad and I don't particularly hate America I would just do it without hesitation it could any country but the one I am in o.o
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    ...okay...
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