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    I have read Gandhi's autobiography "My experiments with Truth". It is interesting to read what made Gandhi who he was. I sometimes wonder whether Gandhi had Buddhist
    line of thought. We all know that it was LORD KRISHNA who urged Arjuna to fight against evil forces. So violence as a weapon of the righteous is not a foreign idea in Hinduism. I wonder how Mahatma Gandhi would have argued with Lord Krishna had he been in Arjuna's place.


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    I have that book on audio cassettes -- one of my favorites. I can't answer your question but I believe Mahatma Gandhi was one of the finest human beings this earth has produced. I love this quote by Einstein:

    "Generations to come, it may well be, will scarce believe that such a man as this one ever in flesh and blood walked upon this Earth.


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    I think we should understand that Gandhiji had studied hard facts about Hindu history before arriving to the conclusion that non-violence was the best weapon for Hindus against the British rule. The fact that Hindus had to make humiliating compromises with the Muslims because of the power of Muslims had a bearing on Gandhijis decision to believe in ahimsa.
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    I can only say, I know a lot of Buddhist's and I love them all. They CAN be a bit of a pain in the butt sometimes, but, overall.....of the beliefs, I find them the kindest.
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    "We all know that it was LORD KRISHNA who urged Arjuna to fight against evil forces."

    No we do not all know that, this is the internet, theres people from various parts of the world, you are projecting your own point of view and culture onto other people.

    ~We all know that Tijus-kaha made the animals that were beneficial to hunter gatherens like you and me. You and me are both grateful to the deer for providing his skin so we can walk around in comfortable moccasins. What? Youre not wearing moccasins like I am? You are not even grateful to the deer and to Tijus-kaha? Not Tijus-who, its Tijus-kaha. ~
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    Actually I doubt (very much) that anyone knows it.
    Although a large number of people may believe it.

    I'm still trying to work out what the thread title has to do with the OP.
    Gandhi was a secret agent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    They CAN be a bit of a pain in the butt sometimes...
    Phew.
    I thought it was just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
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    They CAN be a bit of a pain in the butt sometimes...
    Phew.
    I thought it was just me.
    Oh don't worry.
    There's more than just Buddhists and you that're a pain the butt.

    (Isn't English wonderfully imprecise?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    There's more than just Buddhists and you that're a pain the butt.
    If I'm just a pain in the butt, then I must be having one of my good days. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
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    They CAN be a bit of a pain in the butt sometimes...
    Phew.
    I thought it was just me.
    *laughing*
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    I aim sorry to have started the thread. Always thought as the world is coming closer we get to know about each others religions a little bit. Anyway my point is that Gandhiji knew well that his religion permitted violence to achieve the ends(the fight of good with the evil and all that). Yet he advocated non violence as a means of achieving independence from the British. Many Indians are critical of this path(non violence) but definitely the foresighted see the advantage of ahimsa(non violence).
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    I think he was smart enough to know he couldn't win a violent struggle. However, he could motivate other superpowers to intervene on his movement's behalf if his movement played the victim.

    I think for every pacifist movement like Ghandi's that works, there's probably 20 more that fail because no external source of pressure exists. The Brits didn't let go of India because they felt bad. They let go because the movement was straining Britain's relations with it allies during a time of war. Franklin Roosevelt's wife, for example, was a strong supporter of the Indian revolt. She put lots of pressure on her husband to make arms shipments contingent on Britain making concessions.

    Churchill was basically getting told point blank that the USA would quit supplying him and his troops if he didn't start caving.
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    I think intolerance has worked as a virtue for some. Mahatma Gandhi always stood for the persecuted and opposed injustice. However the main reason for violence is distrust. The very political outfit that Gandhiji belonged to(Congress party) has become parochial without any vision. In some religions they say there will be a JUDGEMENT DAY. People are not even afraid of God nowadays. People have guns when there is malnourishment or/and starvation in the world. In India only 10% of the people decided for democracy as the method for the whole country. I think people and government are different. I have begun wondering whether the government really endorses views of common man. Dialogue should be there between people of different backgrounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parag29081973 View Post
    However the main reason for violence is distrust.
    I doubt that.

    People are not even afraid of God nowadays.
    What?
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