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    When in history did geographers become aware of the concept of continents?


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    600BC? Babylonian Map of the World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    When in history did geographers become aware of the concept of continents?
    IMO, well before full AMH evolved.... Now if you are talking about the science behind continents, well, recent times would be my answer, .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathman View Post
    When in history did geographers become aware of the concept of continents?
    Isn't a continent just a large island? Then the first time a geographer crossed a body of water..
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    When in history did geographers become aware of the concept of continents?
    Isn't a continent just a large island? Then the first time a geographer crossed a body of water..
    Well, there are continents, semi-continents, and islands. A puddle is an extremely small ocean... not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyoko View Post
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    When in history did geographers become aware of the concept of continents?
    Isn't a continent just a large island? Then the first time a geographer crossed a body of water..
    Well, there are continents, semi-continents, and islands. A puddle is an extremely small ocean... not really.
    Allright then, what is a continent. As i know there are continents, what are they. To me they are simply landmasses. I don't know if they need to be separated by faultlines. I don't know if they need to be above water. As i have heard of continents below sealevel (not atlantis).

    Or did we simply call something a continent, because we wanted it to.. Europa is not a real continent, as it connects with asia. Neiter is australia a real continent, as of the dispersion of islands of indonesia. I count only 4 continents. Antartica, America, Asia and Afrika....

    Isn't a continent that which someone wanted to call it like that. So anyone travelling the sea, would call a new destination a continent.. Or am i thinking incorrectly?
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    With some weird exceptions, cartographers imagined the land as ultimately encircled by sea. As new lands got discovered, they'd try to scrunch those into their image of seas surrounding all. There was probably a decade when we abandoned that conceit, but I don't know when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyoko View Post
    In this map there are geographical divisions. However there is no attempt to identify some divisions to form Asia, while other divisions form Africa.
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    It could have been pure racism, too. The three big ethnicities of "white", "black", and "Asian" all originate in the three continents of the Old World. Otherwise how would you even draw a line between Europe and Asia to begin with?

    I guess Africa is also easy to delineate because of the Suez peninsula. (And Panema also makes North and South America easy to separate).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax View Post
    It could have been pure racism, too. The three big ethnicities of "white", "black", and "Asian" all originate in the three continents of the Old World. Otherwise how would you even draw a line between Europe and Asia to begin with?

    I guess Africa is also easy to delineate because of the Suez peninsula. (And Panema also makes North and South America easy to separate).
    My own guess is less to do with racism than with the limited geographical knowledge of the Graeco-Roman world. The Mediteranean and Black seas separated Europe from Asia within their context. Most of modern day Russian geography would be obscure.
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    It might be a mix, then. I'm pretty sure Iran (Persia) wasn't considered to be part of Asia, and it's East of the Black Sea. However, anything East of Persia would have been outside Greece's normal sphere of interaction because Persia lie in between them and it. Also Africa would be on the other side of Egypt (by land anyway), so also outside their range of influence.

    Maybe the continents were defined more or less as they are today, by political boundaries and nations' spheres of influence. Most of the great political entities that defined ancient history existed in the Middle East, where the three continents connect.


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    "Continent" is a label of convenience, not of strict definitive criteria. So I ask, what do you mean when you say "concept of continents"? When we developed the subjective title? When we started realizing how contiguously large some landmasses are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halorealm View Post
    "Continent" is a label of convenience, not of strict definitive criteria. So I ask, what do you mean when you say "concept of continents"? When we developed the subjective title? When we started realizing how contiguously large some landmasses are?
    I think we know today what comtinents are. Europe being defined as a continent, rather than just a part of Eurasia, seems to have arisen from an historical context. My guess is that it arose during the Graeco-Roman era. The concept that I am thinking of is a collection of regions connected geographically, but not necessarily politically.
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