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    Hah! I'd completely forgotten that song.
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    I live very close to several War of 1812-14 battlefields here in Niagara. Just around the corner from me is an historical and hallowed piece of ground (actual battlefield) that contains the remains of those who fought in the Battle for Chippewa. Further down the road one finds Queenston Heights where British General Brock gained legendary status by being killed on what amounts to one of the first days of the war. We have a university named after him a few miles away. There has been many reenactments this year along the Niagara River at various old forts and battlefields. In Canada we like to think we kicked the crap out of the USA but when all was said and done everything basically remained status quo.

    What a lot of people don't realize is that many people living on the Canadian side of the Niagara River at that time were transplanted Americans, who for the most part were reluctant to take up arms against their brethren in the early part of the war. However American soldiers were an undisciplined lot that felt it their right to ransack and pillage the very homes and farms of their sympathizers. Naturally this eventually worked against them. Also fighting the Americans at that time were the native Indians and believe it or not, many escaped black slaves who had made their way north to freedom from the USA via a network of support called the Underground Railroad. There are still several descendants from this group living in Niagara today.

    We in Niagara don't really think a lot about a war that happened 200 years ago but we are constantly reminded by various monuments, forts and plaques along the Niagara River Parkway, a beautiful stretch of road along the river that I drive on nearly every day. We weren't even a nation in 1812 but a lot of people believe this victory kick started the birth of Canada. I do believe the 49th parallel was established as a result of the war as the border between Canada & USA stretching from Lake Superior to the west coast, the longest undefended border in the world they say.
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    Thropo this Poste of yours is right up there with the best. Now it's my turn to learn something. And I appreciate that. And it's good to know something of Canadian History.

    As the Time is now to remember this War, and in 1814 the Burning of The White House and Treasury, you may consider catering for American Tourists by opening a Saveloy Stand.

    Phamplets could be printed and distributed and, as you say, re-enactments carried out by burning a few of the local( over the un-manned border) Sheds and Haystacks.

    This should create some interest.

    See if you can Poste back with a description of victtuals or Fresh Food that may have been available then for the Armies engaged in The War of 1812/15.

    I wanted to come over for a Clam-Bake but apparently that's down South.

    Bt the way Thropo, why have I not noticed any of our Members Posting from Mississippee--Alabrama--new Orleans--kentuky-, you know, Gone With The Wind type States.?
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    we fired our cannon till the barrel melted down
    then we grabbed an alligator and we fired another round
    we stuffed his head with canon balls and powdered his hehind
    and when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind
    ............
    that song?
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    Quote Originally Posted by westwind View Post
    Bt the way Thropo, why have I not noticed any of our Members Posting from Mississippee--Alabrama--new Orleans--kentuky-, you know, Gone With The Wind type States.?
    How will you know, by their accent?
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    Shucks, if it ain't Missoury Joe from New Orleans!! Where's you been Missourt Joe? ( something like that, do you think?) Or, could it be something from Gone With The Wind, " Frankly, I Don;t Give A Damn".

    Last night I viewed part of the 1812 War on the Foxtel History Channel. The Native People over the Creek from you were badly let down when the British were satisfied that Their Canadian interests were secure.

    Just Marched away without so much as a thank you. When the States had sorted themselves out they gradually encrouched on the Native People, confining them into less and less land, destroying their Culture.

    It's a Pity that the Canadians couldn't find a new Homeland for them.

    Washington DC was burnt in retailiation to the burning of York. ( Montreal).

    The British stuffed up after Burning the White House--as it was if the General had of kept going He would have taken the bigger trading centre and Port, but he turned back to Canada. He was relieved of his Command and shipped back to England.

    New Orleans was a Water Battle, in the Mouth of the Mississippee. The British Fleet stuffed up, and the Locals gave them hell. When they tried a land assault they played their fifes and drums and Steadfastly advanced into the Murderous fire of Jacksons Local Squirrel shooters. The Major and his Captain were killed on the first Volley, so nobody gave the order to retreat, so on came the Gallant British, Fifes and Drums etc . Jackson showed no mercy.

    They say this war was the real beginning of the Star Spangled Banner and the Union of more States to plant cherry trees etc. Wot say you thropo? westwind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westwind View Post
    This year markes the 200th Anniversary of the burning of the White House.
    And where are these bloody British now that we need them again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy1 View Post
    And where are these bloody British now that we need them again?
    Probably drunk, and passed out on the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    And where are these bloody British now that we need them again?
    Probably drunk, and passed out on the floor.
    What after he managed to post it.
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    Dolly Madison had just had the table set for dinner when the British showed up and she split. So the soldiers sat down and ate the meal before firing the White House.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    Dolly Madison had just had the table set for dinner when the British showed up and she split. So the soldiers sat down and ate the meal before firing the White House.
    Well hey, at least the insurance did a decent job for the new one.
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