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  1. #1 Were there any Irish Knights Templar? 
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    Were there any Irish Knights Templar?


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    Did they do battle against the army of Saladin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    Did they do battle against the army of Saladin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876
    Did they do battle against the army of Saladin.
    No, the Knights Templar did not arrive in Ireland until after Saladin was dead.

    Moreover, during the period the Irish Catholic Church was not integrated into the Roman Catholic Church, this due to the fact that Ireland was Christianized after the collapse of the Roman Empire and before the recovery of Catholicism. During most of the Crusade years Ireland was under constant invasion from vikings (who had several permanent ports set up) and then subsequently by the Normans, who ruled Western France and England at the time. The Normans eventually decided that they had conquered Ireland by 1172, but really they only controlled the area around Dublin. Knights Templar didn't arrive in Ireland until the mid-13th century.

    So, you can understand the Irish were not in the position to be launching Crusades. Although, it is possible there were some who made their way, through the Normans, into the Middle East. Moreover, the Knight Templars in Ireland, though they held Irish estates, were not ethnically Irish, and were likely French.
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    Did any English or Scottish make it to the Crusades?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatt9876 View Post
    Did any English or Scottish make it to the Crusades?
    The English participated in the second crusade. And of course the third crusade is famous because of the capture and the ransoming of Richard I. The Scottish had a presence in the knights of Saint John in the later days of crusading. During the early days of crusading Scotland wasn't yet a nation-state and what would eventually become the Kingdom of Scotland was still forming. They only just began the transition into European feudalism in that period.
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