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    World conquerer macedonian king alexander is said to have reached india after conquering persia. The remains where the roman structures his kingdom built like the city of alexandria in egypt. Indian historians said that alexander and his troops fought a small battle against meghdootam king chandragupta maurya's armies wearing skirts and flower turban. Chandragupta maurya's general puru who wore a single piece of cloth over his chest to his ankles is said to have demean king alexander's character just by words. Alexander and his army then went back! Whereas other historians say that alexander and his black roman warrier dressed army defeated indian puru. And walked the dessert rann of kutch. Built another roman city alexandria across river beas. Some arab painters depict alexander had converted to islam and even wore dress like mughal king humayun. So if king alexander and his army had travelled across middle india, then why aren't there any roman historical structures remains across north and middle india? Alexander while returning took home many exotic fruits which grew in tropical india. Or is the history just a myth? There doesn't seem not even any genetic race who seem descendants of macedonians not even in swat valley. Sikhs cannot be greeks as their looks sometimes resemble old english races. Iranians can't be called greeks as they are already fairer, brown eyes and big straight noses. Other islamists are from turkmenistan countries mongol genghiz khan races! So who could be the greek? Or did the alexander and his kingdom were so seclusive that they never had intermixed for progeny. What science technology alexander might be having at that time...solar power cooker, gobar gas plant, mobile phone? Alexander never even came across bodhisatva budhism?! Birth-life-death in passage of time. Some persons in india might be living 300 years old! So if there was a possibility that the myth town alexandria of alexander still exists intact even the people across river beas. But not seen by advanced satellites and neither accessible by any route. And there might be a way to reach alexandria. How do alexander and his people might had look like? They are fairer than iranians, might be having yellow hairs, straight nose and looks as in movie sparta 300 but singing islamic pop songs...hawa hawa eh hawa...! http://www.thoughtfacet.blogspot.com...of-jhelum.html
    I like the warrior dress of alexander's soldiers as portrayed by indian tv. Black half sleeve shirt and mini skirt. Over it a black half sleeve metal armour, a deltoid guard and a black metal stripe mini skirt armour. Then all wore black helmet with a brush. The shoes were knee length tied with strings. Alexander wore silver metal armour instead of black, red helmet and perhaps even a cape. The height of indian general puru is said to have been 7ft. Then as depicted in indian tv, alexander was taller than puru. Might be ten feet to carry a spear of 16 ft. As also depicted in movie '300', how do warriors of yester years increased their heights and still never looked abnormal gigantic. Or was it a eye illusion as described in budhist world that many could change their dimensions without getting bigger. The strength too seems abnormally high. Metal armour and shield casted in old times metallurgy. A nine feet javelin would tear shoulder muscle of even a modern day athlete. And spears, bows of alexander were made of metal. Or were they made up of wood? How tall were the elephants then, 30feet?


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    Three comments:

    1) Use paragraphs!
    2) Alexander had nothing to do with Rome. I believe you are thinking of Greece.
    3) What is your question?


    P.S. The usual explanation for Alexander leaving India is that the army wanted to go home.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger
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    So if king alexander and his army had travelled across middle india, then why aren't there any roman historical structures remains across north and middle india?
    a) I think Napoleon's army (and military victories) allowed him to reach into Russia, but he didnt hold on to the territory long enough to build new buildings etc.
    b) Its possible for a conquering army to leave protectorate regime in a land that is essentially composed of local administrators that leave the area in the same architectural way as it was before. Unless I am mistaking this is all the more likely when there is no significant colonization(with artisants, builders, etc) of the conquered land.
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    Its impossible to think alexander had conquered so many nations and achieved many titles at such an young age of only 30. At twenty no one can even perfect fighting skills, unless he could have been a superhuman. The structures at alexandria of egypt may have taken atleast more than 25 years to build, unless the workers were supernaturally quick. Even the victory conquering countries after countries in a year span seem foolish, as why would the defeated enemy praise a foreign king! It would had taken him atleast 200years of lifespan to achieve his work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger
    Its impossible to think alexander had conquered so many nations and achieved many titles at such an young age of only 30. At twenty no one can even perfect fighting skills, unless he could have been a superhuman.
    Consider he's been learning about the military since at least age 7 from some of the best in the known world. How many others have someone of the caliber of Aristotle as a teacher?

    As to the structures Egyptian (to distinguish it from many cities of the same name) Alexandria continued to be built as the center of Greece expansion in the area even after Alexandria was dead. Under Greek control it became one of the largest cities in the known world in a few generations and continued to be an essential Greek city for nearly two centuries until it eventually passed into Roman hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger
    Its impossible to think alexander had conquered so many nations and achieved many titles at such an young age of only 30. At twenty no one can even perfect fighting skills, unless he could have been a superhuman. The structures at alexandria of egypt may have taken atleast more than 25 years to build, unless the workers were supernaturally quick. Even the victory conquering countries after countries in a year span seem foolish, as why would the defeated enemy praise a foreign king! It would had taken him atleast 200years of lifespan to achieve his work.
    Fortunately historical events take place regardless of the inability of later generations to develop adequate imaginations.
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    Imagining the fighting alexander makes me think about the movie 'sinbad the sailor'. The animation makes bewilderment as to how it had looked if alexander riding his horse was real! There are also four to five alexandria cities in afghanistan. But no structures, remains and not even documentaries of greek-roman expansion. I feel that the movie 'sparta 300' if imagined to be in a space time constant, then the warriors portrayed are infact modern of year 1500 a.d.!
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    If alexander and his army happen to time travel. Like as shown in movie 'terminator' the cyborgs appear in high voltage interferance, but like the animation as in 'sinbad'. Like walked down from the sky. In one of my visions alexander like soldiers (also portrayed in your museums) wear a helmet which has magical possessed armour moving to the sides. Those who use it have fungal worms growth while battling.
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    Ginger, your post are hard to read and I can't heads or tails of what ever points your trying to make.

    Less dream time. It's bothersome.
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    i read in encyclopaedia that iran in pre-islamic times was zoroastrian/parsee country. In the sparta movie the xerxes might be a mythical being in an unknown world of rituals and cult practices. Its written from zoroastrian sprang up secondary religions of judaism and christianity. So apart from the fire dance of iran kshatriyas i also recall a vision of a kingsly dance of iran qajar dynasty. Perhaps the dance also of pehelvans(warrior wrestlers)
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    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Zoroastrianism

    Zoroastrianism is a religion and philosophy based on the teachings of prophet Zoroaster (also known as Zarathustra, in Avestan) and was formerly among the world's largest religions.[1] It was probably founded some time before the 6th century BCE in Persia (Iran). The term Zoroastrianism is, in general usage, essentially synonymous with Mazdaism (the worship of Ahura Mazda, exalted by Zoroaster as the supreme divine authority).

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    Judaism is about 600 years older.
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    where do the alexander wars had taken place? Is it there where skulls, caracases, dessert called the land of deaths. Some could have outlived their lives in worlds beyond death!
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    You're Indian and you dislike Alexander the Great, we get it, moving on...
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    Oh yeah and Zoroastrianism did not create Judaism
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    Zoroastrianism had major influence on the development of Judaism and Christianity though, it is likely that the concept of an Armageddon was borrowed from Zoroastrianism.

    Sumerian religion is the more direct predecessor of Judaism.
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    The bible even admits that before Abraham a general Mideast belief system was in play among what the authors consider the descendents of Shem. However, the Zoroastrian theory that some hold, of it having this grand influence, just does not hold up if you look at the religion before the 2nd century AD and look at the historiography. The religion simply was never as old, popular or consistent as many believe it to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmaelblues
    The bible even admits that before Abraham a general Mideast belief system was in play among what the authors consider the descendents of Shem. However, the Zoroastrian theory that some hold, of it having this grand influence, just does not hold up if you look at the religion before the 2nd century AD and look at the historiography. The religion simply was never as old, popular or consistent as many believe it to be.
    It didn't have to be. It could have been held by a few passing merchants which Jesus could have met.
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    It was popular enough to be written about by Heroditus as the religion of Iranians in 500 BCE, according to him it was popular enough to wield significant influence in the Persian Empire. And it was popular enough to survive under persecution by the Seleucid and Roman rule to reemerge as the state religion in the 2nd century AD. So, obviously there were a significant number of Zoroastrians running around prior to and after Christ.
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    Alexander antedated Muhammed(pbuh) by several centuries. Accordingly, accounts of conversion to Islam are greatly contrafactual.
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