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    I recently heard that during world war II, China lost over 20 million people. How did this happen? Who were they fighting? I did not think they were involved in the fight against Germany. All I can think of is Japan, but I'd be shocked to hear that they were so brutally decimated by an enemy they greatly outnumbered. I know I could look it up, but it seems like an interesting topic for discussion.


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    Japan. You should read up on it from any article describing the Second Sino-Japanese War


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    Imperial Japan caused Chinese deaths through military action, atrocities, famines, etc. China fell into deplorable conditions during the first part of the 20th Century, which the Great Depression worsened further. Millions died in the 1930s from starvation due to government mismanagement and oppression. The invasion of Manchuria by the Japanese in 1931 was a prelude to the Second Sino-Japanese War that technically began in 1937. The “Rape of Nanking” in that year is probably the most notable incident of this war, which simply blended into World War Two. Some atrocities by the Imperialists were unspeakably barbaric. Both wars ended together in 1945.
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    The Chinese outnumbered the Japanese, but the government was much less centralized at the time (with pretty much a simultaneous civil war going on between the nationalist and communist in China), and China was much less industrialized relative to Japan. Most of the Chinese casualties were civilians, there's also the Korean and Vietnamese casualties of Japanese occupation to be remembered as well. The Japanese get off easy relative to the German's in public memory, but they were just as brutal, if not as systematic, as the Nazis.
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    this is interesting. it's as if the whole world was insane with blood lust at the same time; a disease of the collective unconscious perhaps. a macro-scale version of the collapse of a superposition of beliefs and power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_feel_tiredsleepy
    The Japanese get off easy relative to the German's in public memory, but they were just as brutal, if not as systematic, as the Nazis.
    I think that's because we're simply more exposed to Western bias. If you were S Korea or China you'd probably say Germany got off easy.
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    Well, it actually helped Japan by eliminating military spending.
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    In a poor and low technology level society, there is no doubt a war will be difficult at the first.
    But, actually, I think why Japan kill so many is a better question than why China die so many.
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    definitely wang, i just didn't know japan was responsible.
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    I do wonder how accurate the body counts in China would be, especially in the 40's?

    I always thought it was largely due to famine. Russian also had a heavy hit of about 7 million I believe which dwarfs any other country.
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