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  1. #1 History, a social Science? Humanities? Both 
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    History predates, formal science, however, history as is practiced today is very different from that of say the time of the war for American Independence. The improved techniques used in history today do roughly coincide with the formalization of science. However, history in any moderate view is not a complete science (including social) this is why many universities give MA/MS or just MA (bs/ms or just ba ect.)

    at the dawn of the 20th century many tried to turn history, as with many field of study, into a science, Freud and such, history today is very much a humanity, an analysis of documents taught at the college level like an English class and the two fields have a greater overlap than that of the sciences.

    so i would consider History as a field of study by professionals, a humanity, or as one professor said a "scholarly art" much like english or journalism, basically writing and analysis. Very often today historians use scientific source matiral to support their arguements but, not in any fashion different that a census record and so on.

    so...where does everyone else stand
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    I think it depends on the which part of history you study, when you study modern history everything is documented and it becomes more of an english literature study.
    However if you go back to ancient history when documents are few and far between or perhaps non existent then i believe scientifc methods are used in determining a chain of events or how a culture used to live, then again i'm not sure if that's history but it is still cool


    everything is mathematical.
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    thats a good point, anthropology and archaeology come into the picture, and they fill in where the written record is quiet, then historians use it to fil in context. Interesting, there is certianly a relationship
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmaelblues
    History predates, formal science, however, history as is practiced today is very different from that of say the time of the war for American Independence. The improved techniques used in history today do roughly coincide with the formalization of science. However, history in any moderate view is not a complete science (including social) this is why many universities give MA/MS or just MA (bs/ms or just ba ect.)

    at the dawn of the 20th century many tried to turn history, as with many field of study, into a science, Freud and such, history today is very much a humanity, an analysis of documents taught at the college level like an English class and the two fields have a greater overlap than that of the sciences.

    so i would consider History as a field of study by professionals, a humanity, or as one professor said a "scholarly art" much like english or journalism, basically writing and analysis. Very often today historians use scientific source matiral to support their arguements but, not in any fashion different that a census record and so on.

    so...where does everyone else stand
    The Field of History -
    Humanities
    or, humanities/social science?
    Wieght in please!
    I have a degree in biology with 40 credit hours in college history courses. As a scientist I donít like using the term science to identify something that has as much of a subjective component as history does.

    I am in the process of designing a curriculum for a college prep school that I hope to open some day. The curriculum for grades 7 to 12 will have only 4 subjects for each grading period. I am classifying things like English grammar, writing skills, literature and foreign languages as humanities. I have history, government and economics classified as social science- but only for lack of a better term.

    BTW: Some colleges donít make any distinction between an X of arts degree and an X of science degree apart from the number of courses you take. Emory University offered both a bachelor of arts and a bachelor of science degree in biology. I took more than enough courses for the BA, but not enough to get the BS.
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    History is not a science, its the fictional story as told by those who wrote about events, based on what they were told or witnessed from a specific point of view and within the confines of what they subjectively chose to or were allowed to write about, that most people agree to believe in.
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    Has anyone ever done a history experiment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scifor Refugee
    Has anyone ever done a history experiment?
    Hitler tested the hypothesis, first established by Napoleon, that invading Russia is a really bad idea.
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    Hitler tested the hypothesis, first established by Napoleon, that invading Russia is a really bad idea.
    Hitler made the mistake of attacking the USSR at its strongest, while Napolean did the same when the Tsars were at the peak of their power. Hitting Russia will only work when it is unstable. Had hitler managed to take over Europe first, he could conceivably have built a strong enough army to invade the USSR.
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