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  1. #1 Obesity, the silent contributor? 
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    We hear a lot in the UK about our society becoming Obese, and whereas a large person would have stood out in the crowd 40 years ago today it is more the norm. This trend [towards obesity] is also seen in the US where they seem to be ahead of us. I have wondered from time to time whether modern housing [insulation and heating] plus clothing and bedding becoming more thermally efficient, may be playing a part in this.

    I seem to remember that kilo for kilo warm blooded creatures require around 7 times the calorific intake of cold blooded animals, clearly warm blooded creatures [seem] more active and need to keep warm. If your body loses less heat through more efficient clothing, and burns less calories in your centrally heated home, then surely this will increase fat.

    I am not suggesting for one moment that this is the total or even the major cause but do you think it plays a part?

    Curiosly A high [animal] fat diet is nothing new, before steriods were given to animals their meat contained a great deal of fat, The richly lean bacon I see on the butchers shelves today is IMHO far far leaner that any around when I was a kid, we also drank copious quantities of full fat milk and delighted in real butter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    I have wondered from time to time whether modern housing [insulation and heating] plus clothing and bedding becoming more thermally efficient, may be playing a part in this.
    A part...but as you move south and not north in North America people get fatter. Loiusiana, alabama, etc. Canadians (known for their equatorial climate :wink: ) aren't as fat as Americans. Among the fattest people in the world today are those on warm tropical islands..Samoa, Tahiti, etc.

    I use the word fat. There used to be one or two fat kids in school in the 60's. There was a stigma to it like being retarded or a midget. Unlike the latter two, however, most fatness is preventable but folks don't have the motivation to do anything about it. When in public it's being a good Samaritan to point something out loudly to a friend like 'the car over there beside the fat lady in the yellow dress'. that way the fat lady might overhear it, be devestated , and run home and have a cup of tea instead of a bowl of ice cream.


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    perhapse because people are living longer and the NHS? during the industrial revolution, obecsed people could survive because of the health hazards posed due to the smogs in cities. During the Middle Ages it was again hard for people to survive obescity unless in a wealthy position. If you go even further back you get to the point where regular people are poor so cannot afford the food
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyologist
    There was a stigma to it like being retarded or a midget.
    You sure have a way with words!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevyn
    perhapse because people are living longer and the NHS? during the industrial revolution, obecsed people could survive because of the health hazards posed due to the smogs in cities. During the Middle Ages it was again hard for people to survive obescity unless in a wealthy position. If you go even further back you get to the point where regular people are poor so cannot afford the food
    We had lots of food in North America in the 1960's. We weren't as fat as the porkers today. We're seeing fat porkers under 50 years of age...under 20 years...under 10. Nothing to do with health care. My sister is a nurse and she grits her teeth not to blast parents who abuse their children by stuffing junk food into their faces. Folks cringe at the thought of a child not being in a child restrain device in a car but those same folks think nothing of feeding a Mcdonald's french fry to little junior...turning their child into a butterball is multiple times more likely to disable and eventually kill them than a car accident.
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    I think the major cause of the obesity epidemic in the US and UK are directly related to the lack of physical activity and fast food. In the past, many jobs required intensive labor. Today we have "labor saving" devices that almost eliminate the need to break a sweat. People simply don't chop firewood, or dig ditches by hand, or move heavy loads, or hand wash clothes...they use chainsaws. back-hoes, fork lifts, and washing machines. Even "manual labor" jobs don't really require as much calorie burning, than they did in the past.

    To compound the problem, people eat out much more often. When I was a kid, we rarely ate out...Mom always cooked dinner. Fewer people cook for themselves and rely on processed food and drive thru's for their daily meals. These meals contain much more fat and other bad crap than Mom's home cooked vegetables and non-processed foods.

    As a kid, we didn't have video games, and only 3 channels of tv. We went outside and actually played physical games. Drive down my old street and you'd see tons of kids playing outside. You just don't see that as much today. Playing "tag" would be painfully boring to a modern kid, compared with playing "World of Warcraft".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its All Relative
    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyologist
    There was a stigma to it like being retarded or a midget.
    You sure have a way with words!!
    At least the sentiment is alive on 'the Simpsons'....fat little Ralphie sticking a crayon up his nose and eating not only the cupcake but the paper it comes in.
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