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    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2707428

    Pretty intense conclusion on fitness and mortality rates. What do people think?


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    My own conclusions would be different. It's not pounding away on a treadmill that provides longevity. It's what you don't do that keeps you living longer. Instead of exercise try fasting and avoiding harmful substances. All the people I've known that have lived into their 90's and even one that lived to 100 never did any extreme exercise, but they kept the calories down.


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    Here we go
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    Counter example for Ox, George Burns.
    Sex would be aerobic, wouldn’t it?

    Is the source legit? This is good news for me. I haven’t ever done a treadmill test, but I’m rediculously active. At least 25 miles a day on a bike, elevation changes, some road, some dirt. Walk/hike at least an average of 3-4 miles a day. Play disc golf. Lots’a camping, mostly car and tent, sometimes I’ll hike in a few miles. Need to go get a cave in before they all snow in! Although snowshoe/cross country skis?
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    I know right? As soon as the topic is brought up, ox starts in with the no true scotsman argumentation on what "real" exercise is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ox
    My own conclusions would be different. It's not pounding away on a treadmill that provides longevity. It's what you don't do that keeps you living longer. Instead of exercise try fasting and avoiding harmful substances. All the people I've known that have lived into their 90's and even one that lived to 100 never did any extreme exercise, but they kept the calories down.
    I'm guessing your still using your very narrow and flawed opinion of what "exercise" is right?

    I mean you start out the the denigrating and frankly false "pounding away on a treadmill" comment and then go on to list anecdotal single people as if they are statistically relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    Play disc golf.
    Wow! You play disc golf. Never done it. But I do play real golf. Something like 450 different courses.
    Can you touch your toes? Can you do the snake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Up2Mnq7JSM
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2707428

    Pretty intense conclusion on fitness and mortality rates. What do people think?
    The study is valid and indicates testosterone replacement for every older adult male as well as female who is exercising or is trying to exercise, as test will increase exercise capacity up to hundreds of thousands of times in a sedentary adult. The practical fact is that all medical doctors do is to suck the insurance industry dry by [erforming medical test that will show that exercise is needed. Then they will prescribe statin drugs that help the heart work while making it weaker. I have lost 30 pounds of fat in the last year, and regained 10 to 15 lbs of muscle. I am 53. The last doctor I saw said that I was anemic, my kidneys were failing and my liver numbers were off, he also told me that my 30lb loss of weight indicated that I was sick. In reality 25 year olds watch me do 30 reps with a 700lb weight and walk away because they feel inferior. Conclusion, get out there and do it, and tell the doctor to f off, only you can make it happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    Play disc golf.
    Wow! You play disc golf. Never done it. But I do play real golf. Something like 450 different courses.
    Can you touch your toes? Can you do the snake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Up2Mnq7JSM
    I’ve heard of Ball Golf, what’s real golf? Do you smack numbers around with pencils?
    TBDW on the video. I’ve invented my own combat form! It uses a snowboard like a bat’leth, and the stances are designed for boots in snow, and on solid ice. Different weapon forms are used for being on ice, or in snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil View Post
    I’ve heard of Ball Golf, what’s real golf? Do you smack numbers around with pencils?
    Ball golf could be Foot Golf. Or it could be real golf, where the object is to get a small ball into a small hole with implements ill equipped for the task.
    It is a game which is 90% mental and 10% mental.
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    In disc we just basically throw the clubs, but then you always want to go get it back. I swam a snowmelt creek in early June for one of my favorite putters once.
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    Disc golf is actually played with a disc thrown into a net.
    Not sure how many calories it burns but I'm certain it won't be the 1400 burned when a real golfer carrying his clubs plays 18 holes on a proper course.
    However, your form of golf does seem to have similar characteristics to real golf like 'what worked yesterday won't work today, and won't work tomorrow, either.'
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    It’s called a basket, it has chains. Nets are for catching gapers who miss the ski lift offloads.
    Does ball golf have glow balls for night play? Disc has glow discs.
    How about elevation changes? Or rough terrain? Most of the state parks in the area include disc golf courses. Camp and disc!
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