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  1. #1 Why do multi-vitamins make me sick? 
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    I take multi-vitamin pills. If I take multi-vitamin pills on an empty stomach they make me nauseous. Is this normal? Why do they make me nauseous?


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    Are the multi-vitamin pills meant to be taken on an empty stomach? If not, is it mentioned in the package insert as being a potential side-effect of taking said pills?


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    It's proly not meant to be taken on an empty stomach. There isn't any mention of it on the label. I'm just curious why this happens. Is it just me?
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    Are you taking the recommended dose and in conjunction with other supplements? While most vitamins are simply washed out in your urine, there are several in multivitamins that can be pretty harmful if you overdose.
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    Just taking one pill every morning. If no one else is reporting similar experiences, I take it it's just me.
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    You're putting massive amounts of chemicals and minerals into your body with varying degrees of solubility.
    They'll sit there until some is absorbed but much is passed.
    What does half a gram of concentrated Calcium or half a gram of concentrated Magnesium do in the pit of your stomach while waiting to be passed/absorbed?

    This is why doctors generally don't recommend multivitamins.

    1] It is much easier and more efficient on your system to get the vitamins in food, which involves ruffage and digestion.
    2] Because they come with food, uptake is much more efficient than raw. You pee most of a multivitamin away.
    3] It's much harder to get side-effects, such as kidney stones (from all that calcium in your urine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveC426913 View Post
    This is why doctors generally don't recommend multivitamins.

    1] It is much easier and more efficient on your system to get the vitamins in food, which involves ruffage and digestion.
    2] Because they come with food, uptake is much more efficient than raw. You pee most of a multivitamin away.
    3] It's much harder to get side-effects, such as kidney stones (from all that calcium in your urine).
    All that's true, but considering that most doctors don't live in food deserts like tens of millions of inner-city and rural Americans, most don't understand that nutritious food is often scarce and multi-vitamins are better than nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
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    This is why doctors generally don't recommend multivitamins.

    1] It is much easier and more efficient on your system to get the vitamins in food, which involves ruffage and digestion.
    2] Because they come with food, uptake is much more efficient than raw. You pee most of a multivitamin away.
    3] It's much harder to get side-effects, such as kidney stones (from all that calcium in your urine).
    All that's true, but considering that most doctors don't live in food deserts like tens of millions of inner-city and rural Americans, most don't understand that nutritious food is often scarce and multi-vitamins are better than nothing.
    "Food deserts"? In urban N America?

    I must say I have some difficulty believing this. Is it really true that one cannot get fresh fruit and vegetables, and the other ingredients to cook healthy food, in these places?

    Or is it rather that the culture of many of the people living there is to eat pre-prepared and over-processed food instead?
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    Is it really true that one cannot get fresh fruit and vegetables, and the other ingredients to cook healthy food, in these places?
    Absolutely. Our USDA estimates between 10-20 million people don't have access to healthy food within a reasonable walking distance (many poor don't have cars in the cities).

    For rural areas, I live in one. There are a tiny IGA 5 miles from me where I might be able to find a packaged salad, some fruits occasionally but it's spotty. The next store, which does have a good selection is 35-minute drive.

    These food deserts are directly related to the obesity problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    Is it really true that one cannot get fresh fruit and vegetables, and the other ingredients to cook healthy food, in these places?
    Absolutely. Our USDA estimates between 10-20 million people don't have access to healthy food within a reasonable walking distance (many poor don't have cars in the cities).

    For rural areas, I live in one. There are a tiny IGA 5 miles from me where I might be able to find a packaged salad, some fruits occasionally but it's spotty. The next store, which does have a good selection is 35-minute drive.

    These food deserts are directly related to the obesity problem.
    Oh Christ, yes, I'd forgotten about the ghastly way so much of the US relies on everyone having a car and driving everywhere, for every mortal thing. It really annoyed me when I was in Houston. We actually lived 10mins walk from a little strip mall with a supermarket and I used to walk there for groceries, but I got a lot of funny looks from people. (One reason why a couple of brief trips to New York and to Boston and Harvard felt like coming home was that there were actually people walking on the streets, to visit actual shops, and there was public transport to enable people not to use cars.)

    So yes, I see what you mean. Outside the older cities (the ones built in the era of the horse, rather than that of the car), if you are too poor to run a car I imagine you are screwed. I suppose it might be cheaper (and far easier) to order in pizza and burgers - or grab something like that while at work - rather than taking some lousy bus service for miles, to buy decent ingredients to cook for yourself in the evening.

    And then all these people blow up like barrage balloons and get Type 2 Diabetes. We certainly saw plenty like that in Houston. How depressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveC426913 View Post

    It is much easier and more efficient on your system to get the vitamins in food, which involves ruffage and digestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaveC426913 View Post

    It is much easier and more efficient on your system to get the vitamins in food, which involves ruffage and digestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    All that's true, but considering that most doctors don't live in food deserts like tens of millions of inner-city and rural Americans, most don't understand that nutritious food is often scarce and multi-vitamins are better than nothing.
    Is that to say that it is both easier and cheaper to buy vitamins then fruit?
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    Its to say that general multi-vitamins are available for purchase at most any gas station, while as Lynx notes it may be a 35-50 mile drive one way to pick up fresh produce and food for cooking. (IF one has access to a car, and conditions don't hamper even that travel)
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    The OP is not a Alaskan trapper, and thus does not live 35 to 50 miles from a source of fresh produce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveC426913 View Post
    The OP is not a Alaskan trapper, and thus does not live 35 to 50 miles from a source of fresh produce.
    Did you miss Lynx_foxes post entirely? Or are you being obtuse on the poor food sources within rural america for a reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaveC426913 View Post
    The OP is not a Alaskan trapper, and thus does not live 35 to 50 miles from a source of fresh produce.
    Did you miss Lynx_foxes post entirely? Or are you being obtuse on the poor food sources within rural america for a reason?
    My point stands.
    While you may be right about general lack of convenient fresh produce, inflating this to 35-50 miles is extreme.

    If the OP were 35-50 miles from the nearest civilized area, that might have been a point he'd want to divulge.

    The OP should weight the benefits and costs of vitamins out of a bottle that are giving him stomach aches versus the benefits and costs of pursuing a healthy diet.
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    What is your point? That you can't follow a side conversation directly related to the original discussion?

    I don't think either of us knows whether healthy food is easily obtainable by the OP or why they decided to take multi-vitamins. There's no need to be unnecessarily argumentative about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    What is your point? That you can't follow a side conversation directly related to the original discussion?
    I'm addressing the OP's point. You decide you want a side-discussion, don't pretend I'm being argumentative.

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    There's no need to be unnecessarily argumentative about it.
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    What assertion specifically? And how was it specious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    What assertion specifically? And how was it specious?
    That - some people in the US live 35-50 miles away from a proper food source - is relevant to the OP's question.

    It's not that it's not true (I'll grant it is), it's that it is a red herring, as far as answering the OP's question.


    Anyway, everybody's made their points. I suggest we move on.
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    Its is true, as you fully admit. Many small communities in the western US are exactly that if anything small goes,wrong with roads. So NO its not spurious.

    And as such, is Not irrelevant to the side topic that was being discussed, and that you seemed to miss. That's a fault not on my part.
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    Taking megadoses of vitamins can make you sick. This is especially true for fat-soluble vitamins, because your body does not excrete excess in your urine as it does with water-soluble vitamins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    Its is true, as you fully admit. Many small communities in the western US are exactly that if anything small goes,wrong with roads. So NO its not spurious.

    And as such, is Not irrelevant to the side topic that was being discussed, and that you seemed to miss. That's a fault not on my part.
    Sure. Just not answering the question being asked.
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