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    I have an obtrusive thing on my abdomen; that is gas. It is located on right-bottom of my abdomen. When i eat , after it gets much more and every time i try to reduce gas level by simply suppress my abdomen in my bed.
    I went to Doctor but she doesnt gave me any diagnosis about this.
    I have been this issue over 4 years. On recent times it gets upper.
    help.


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    If you are feeling discomfort in the stomach due to gas having accumulated you need to:
    • Lie down keeping the head elevated
    • Rest in such a position for some time till the discomfort has reduced



    2. Increase Fluid Intake
    When gas develops in the stomach it signifies poor digestion:
    • When fluids are drank in plenty, it helps to move the undigested food from the colon and out from the system
    • When one consumes fiber rich food they need to drink enough water to prevent the undigested food particles from accumulating in the colon and causing gas

    3. Reduce The Consumption Of Carbonated Drinks
    When one consumes carbonated drinks it leads to:
    • Increase in discomfort as the gas accumulation increases
    • Pain in the chest will increase if one intakes such beverages

    4. Position To Take Up To Reduce Gas
    There are some positions that are helpful to eliminate gas from the system:
    • One needs to kneel on the head and keep their buttocks in the air. When one is in such a position with the head facing down they allow the gas to pass out of the system
    • One can lie down and press their legs against the stomach. At the same time, one needs to breathe in and try and force the gas out while breathing out
    • When one is trying to push the gas out of their abdomen they need to ensure that the stomach is empty

    [Also Read: Home Remedies For Gastric Problem]

    5. Helpful Positions When Lying Down
    There are certain positions that are recommended when one suffers from frequent gas attacks. There are many women who suffer from such bloatedness during pregnancy and it helps to:
    • Lie down on one’s side
    • Keep the head elevated as compared to the legs

    6. Add Mustard To The Food
    It would help to use the simple ingredient in one’s cooking:
    • Mustard is said to help relieve gas symptoms
    • It can be used as an ingredient in many dishes and helps to keep or prevent gas from building up

    7. Use Of Indian Spices
    If one used Indian spices in their cooking they are known to have beneficial properties that aid digestion:
    • Cardamom
    • Turmeric
    • Cumin

    [Related Post: Home Remedies For Gas Pain In Chest]

    8. Increase The Intake Of Hot Fluids
    When one increase hot fluids that will help the gas to pass out of the system:
    • Hot beverages like tea or coffee will help to move the gas along
    • It is best to opt for herbal tea that aids the digestion process

    9. Increase Intake Of Ginger
    If you are suffering from indigestion and gas problem you could:
    • Increase the intake of ginger by adding it to your food
    • Chew the ginger root and allow the juices to take effect

    10. Consumption Of Fruits
    If vegetables are leading to gas build up in your system you could take up certain fruits that will help to reduce the gas:
    • Drink lemon juice or other citrus fruits
    • Consume papaya which will help to reduce the feeling of bloatedness

    11. Increase Exercises
    It is important to do exercises in order to avoid the frequent buildup of excess gas:
    • One should exercise for thirty minutes every day
    • One needs to be more active physically

    12. Using Baking Soda
    If one has gas in their stomach they can use baking soda in the following manner:
    • Add a spoonful of baking soda to a cup of hot water
    • Consume it to aid digestion

    Are you suffering from stomach gas frequently? Do you wish to find easy and simple ways of getting relief? You need not resort to medication but use the above natural methods mentioned to get relief. There are many who have used th


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    Have you noted certain foods make the problem worse. Beans, cabbage and onions promote gas for me.
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    Didn't adelady shut this thread and tell you to see a doctor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMojo1 View Post
    Get a second opinion from a qualified medical doctor.
    doctors are trying to test experiments by hospital machines and it gives too much radiation to my body, i dont want it...
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    2. Increase Fluid Intake
    When gas develops in the stomach it signifies poor digestion:
    • When fluids are drank in plenty, it helps to move the undigested food from the colon and out from the system
    • When one consumes fiber rich food they need to drink enough water to prevent the undigested food particles from accumulating in the colon and causing gas


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    Quote Originally Posted by yiberkit View Post
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    Get a second opinion from a qualified medical doctor.
    doctors are trying to test experiments by hospital machines and it gives too much radiation to my body, i dont want it...
    The best cure is don't go to any more doctors - you are just getting a handle on doing what you wish to do next and some bodily signs are well "duh" giving you signs. That is why we (er 'm) some great being has instilled a subconscious mind for you.
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    @yiberkit Mayflow has consistently shown herself to be not, shall we say, the sharpest tool in the shed, if she offers you any more medical "advice" it's probably best to ignore it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    Get a second opinion from a qualified medical doctor.
    doctors are trying to test experiments by hospital machines and it gives too much radiation to my body, i dont want it...
    The best cure is don't go to any more doctors - you are just getting a handle on doing what you wish to do next and some bodily signs are well "duh" giving you signs. That is why we (er 'm) some great being has instilled a subconscious mind for you.
    Please don't give any more advice for those who may (because this is a science forum) take you seriously on the matter.
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    No PH - the girl has to believe in herself. And not believe in you or me. Then she can fend fine. You taught with that mind? Maybe I can offer you to be a decent person, if you don't mind"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
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    Get a second opinion from a qualified medical doctor.
    doctors are trying to test experiments by hospital machines and it gives too much radiation to my body, i dont want it...
    The best cure is don't go to any more doctors - you are just getting a handle on doing what you wish to do next and some bodily signs are well "duh" giving you signs. That is why we (er 'm) some great being has instilled a subconscious mind for you.
    Please don't give any more advice for those who may (because this is a science forum) take you seriously on the matter.

    She will make up her own mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    No PH - the girl has to believe in herself. And not believe in you or me. Then she can fend fine. You taught with that mind? Maybe I can offer you to be a decent person, if you don't mind"?
    This makes as much sense as most of your recent posts (exactly f*** all, are you getting your silly chatbot to write your posts for you again?) but no matter what you are incoherently babbling about, advising someone "The best cure is don't go to any more doctors" when they have a medical problem/question is stupid even for someone who has consistently shown themselves to be as dumb as you are. I'm not interested in arguing with you, this post just shows how thick you are and why I would be wasting my time, I just thought I'd point out for the benefit of a new member that your advice should not be taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    Get a second opinion from a qualified medical doctor.
    doctors are trying to test experiments by hospital machines and it gives too much radiation to my body, i dont want it...
    The best cure is don't go to any more doctors - you are just getting a handle on doing what you wish to do next and some bodily signs are well "duh" giving you signs. That is why we (er 'm) some great being has instilled a subconscious mind for you.
    Please don't give any more advice for those who may (because this is a science forum) take you seriously on the matter.

    She will make up her own mind.

    Before or after the autopsy?
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    The older I get, the gassier I get. I'm like a freaking crop duster! You could try those "beano" pills that are supposed to reduce gas.
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    It ill be for her to fend for herself, and if she wishes I can be of help. Can you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    It ill be for her to fend for herself, and if she wishes I can be of help. Can you?
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    Sche's horse "three-bee" gives better medical advice. In fact, I'd rather get medical advice from a horse than May.
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    You mean the front end? Mayflow has shown herself to be a horse's ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    Sche's horse "three-bee" gives better medical advice. In fact, I'd rather get medical advice from a horse than May.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    Get a second opinion from a qualified medical doctor.
    doctors are trying to test experiments by hospital machines and it gives too much radiation to my body, i dont want it...
    The best cure is don't go to any more doctors - you are just getting a handle on doing what you wish to do next and some bodily signs are well "duh" giving you signs. That is why we (er 'm) some great being has instilled a subconscious mind for you.
    Unsupported, highly dangerous and unethical nonsense. I suppose a bullet wound should just be left for your subconscious mind to sort out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    Get a second opinion from a qualified medical doctor.
    doctors are trying to test experiments by hospital machines and it gives too much radiation to my body, i dont want it...
    The best cure is don't go to any more doctors - you are just getting a handle on doing what you wish to do next and some bodily signs are well "duh" giving you signs. That is why we (er 'm) some great being has instilled a subconscious mind for you.
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    You have no way of knowing whether you're correctly interpreting what's said here by the person who is worried. Nor do you have any way of knowing what further questions a qualified professional would ask a patient presenting with these complaints.

    There are about a dozen obvious options that might occur to a general practitioner, and heaven alone knows how many options once we get into the range of specialist doctors that a person might eventually be referred to. Gastroenterologist, allergist, endocrinologist - any one of these might be required to solve the problem - or none of them.

    NEVER EVER GIVE MEDICAL ADVICE.

    ADVISING A PERSON NOT TO SEE A DOCTOR IS JUST AS MUCH MEDICAL ADVICE AS PRETENDING TO ACT AS ONE.

    STOP IT NOW
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    Yeah, no bullets have I had yet, but a variety of boken bones - and I have survived it all quite well - but that is not the point. The point is that our physical lives here are not infinite - they are limited, like it or not. What comes after this life, if anything I do not know - It matters not if my body is a hot commodity to some now, if it lives it will wither and eventually die, and that is veritable truth.
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    You were specifically told to stop. You seem to be begging to be banned, so you can complain about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Yeah, no bullets have I had yet, but a variety of boken bones - and I have survived it all quite well - but that is not the point. The point is that our physical lives here are not infinite - they are limited, like it or not. What comes after this life, if anything I do not know - It matters not if my body is a hot commodity so some now, if it lives it will wither and eventually die, and that is veritable truth.
    Nonsense. The POINT is that the OP has a medical problem, not that life is finite, nor that you survived broken bones. Your inability to stay on topic is a mirror for your other cognition issues. Keep them to yourself. The OP needs help. Again, advising him/her not to seek help is dangerous and unethical. Keep your personal woo to yourself.
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    She does seem to like playing the whinging martyr who is banned for "speaking their mind", the real reason of course is that she is a tedious asshat who can't help trolling if people don't take her woo seriously...
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    You were specifically told to stop. You seem to be begging to be banned, so you can complain about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
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    Get a second opinion from a qualified medical doctor.
    doctors are trying to test experiments by hospital machines and it gives too much radiation to my body, i dont want it...
    The best cure is don't go to any more doctors - you are just getting a handle on doing what you wish to do next and some bodily signs are well "duh" giving you signs. That is why we (er 'm) some great being has instilled a subconscious mind for you.
    Mayflow.

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    You have no way of knowing whether you're correctly interpreting what's said here by the person who is worried. Nor do you have any way of knowing what further questions a qualified professional would ask a patient presenting with these complaints.

    There are about a dozen obvious options that might occur to a general practitioner, and heaven alone knows how many options once we get into the range of specialist doctors that a person might eventually be referred to. Gastroenterologist, allergist, endocrinologist - any one of these might be required to solve the problem - or none of them.

    NEVER EVER GIVE MEDICAL ADVICE.

    ADVISING A PERSON NOT TO SEE A DOCTOR IS JUST AS MUCH MEDICAL ADVICE AS PRETENDING TO ACT AS ONE.

    STOP IT NOW
    Read the other posts by him/her. I sincerely do not think having occassional gas is a real medical problem. Its normal - now the increasing muscle mass question I already answered. You have to use the muscles to enhance them, and you have to use your mind to enhance your brain cells which I am not too sure you can do by yelling at people in big red letters and threatening them.
    In this case I was inviting the OP to trust his or her own mind. If this is bad advice, then the hope for the individual is diminutised.
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    It is bad advice. Trusting your own mind when it comes to medical issues can be dangerous. A buddy of mine thought he was just suffering from "smokers cough", and didn't do anything about it. Turns out he had TB for like 3 years! Sometimes small symptoms can be indicators of a much larger problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968 View Post
    It is bad advice. Trusting your own mind when it comes to medical issues can be dangerous. A buddy of mine thought he was just suffering from "smokers cough", and didn't do anything about it. Turns out he had TB for like 3 years! Sometimes small symptoms can be indicators of a much larger problem.

    Depends on the mind being trusted.
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    I sincerely do not think having occassional gas is a real medical problem.
    I think the same. But ...

    ... neither you nor I have any way of concluding that that's the only issue unless you're a doctor who has asked all the right questions about when, where, how often and all the other things that must be known before coming to any tentative, let alone definitive, conclusions.

    We haven't palpated the abdominal area. We haven't used a stethoscope to listen to what might be happening inside. Wouldn't have done any good if we had because we're not trained to interpret whatever we might observe.

    Some things really are not as simple as we think - or hope - they are. We do it for ourselves. One person I once worked with thought he needed new glasses. He went to an optometrist appointment and we never saw him again. He was instantly referred to a neurosurgeon because his deteriorating vision was caused by a brain tumour - which the optometrist identified/suspected from a standard eye examination. It killed him within a few weeks. Most apparently simple problems like the one reported here turn out to be less spectacularly serious than that, but they can easily be indicators of something like an allergy or IBS for example. Neither would be imminently lethal, but both need treatment or management.

    Do Not Presume that you have all the information that would be relevant in a proper medical consultation.

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    You seemed to have turned into quite the fine lass - you are a lass am I correct? and you say decent words.
    What I often seem to see is that many people are what do you call it "Hypochondriacs?" - don't you think?

    I am just saying this so I hope you will stop yelling at me with big red letters, ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    You seemed to have turned into quite the fine lass - you are a lass am I correct? and you say decent words.
    What I often seem to see is that many people are what do you call it "Hypochondriacs?" - don't you think?

    I am just saying this so I hope you will stop yelling at me with big red letters, ok?
    You have an incurable arrogance problem, it would seem, compounded by an inability to process what you have read. You do not know if the op is a hypochondriac. You do not know anything about what the OP's problem is. It is therefore irresponsible and dangerous to offer any advice at all, other than to direct the OP to appropriate medical care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    Do Not Presume that you have all the information that would be relevant in a proper medical consultation.

    Do Not Give Advice based on the presumption that you know all that is needed.
    I find many medical professionals inadequate. There are some book nerds, who only know things if it is a clear case. You have gamblers, who think, but don´t know for sure, and act like what they think is the case. You have doctors that, whenever they doubt, they say they have no idea, even thought they do have an idea.

    And there are doctors who don´t know yet, but know how to find it out.. This last type is the ONLY competent doctor around. The one that actually calls colleagues, goes through medical forums, reads research papers, and then finds the actual cause.

    Too bad only about 20% of all doctors are this last type. Even worse that half of them have so little experience that they still come to the wrong conclusion.

    Anyway, gas, is a combination of bacterial growth, swallowing gas, and expelling gas. Only 3 things you can really do about it.

    - Change Diet. You may be lactose intolerant and you may not want to eat dairy or something. Could be another nutrition though.

    - Change the way you eat. Chew longer, take more time before you swallow so you swallow less air.

    - Go to the bathroom more often, try to poop, and just let it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk421 View Post
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    You seemed to have turned into quite the fine lass - you are a lass am I correct? and you say decent words.
    What I often seem to see is that many people are what do you call it "Hypochondriacs?" - don't you think?

    I am just saying this so I hope you will stop yelling at me with big red letters, ok?
    You have an incurable arrogance problem, it would seem, compounded by an inability to process what you have read. You do not know if the op is a hypochondriac. You do not know anything about what the OP's problem is. It is therefore irresponsible and dangerous to offer any advice at all, other than to direct the OP to appropriate medical care.
    And you are a very not nice person to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    You seemed to have turned into quite the fine lass - you are a lass am I correct? and you say decent words.
    What I often seem to see is that many people are what do you call it "Hypochondriacs?" - don't you think?

    I am just saying this so I hope you will stop yelling at me with big red letters, ok?
    You have an incurable arrogance problem, it would seem, compounded by an inability to process what you have read. You do not know if the op is a hypochondriac. You do not know anything about what the OP's problem is. It is therefore irresponsible and dangerous to offer any advice at all, other than to direct the OP to appropriate medical care.
    And you are a very not nice person to me.
    It's not about you, Mayflow. Get over yourself. Once you do, you might find your relationships with others improving quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver View Post
    I find many medical professionals inadequate...{irrelevancies and dangerous advice excised}.
    You seem to be suffering from the same syndrome that Mayflow suffers from: Ignorant arrogance.

    You have no knowledge of what the OP's problem is. It is therefore irresponsible and unethical for you to offer any advice at all (other than to seek appropriate care).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk421 View Post
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    I find many medical professionals inadequate...{irrelevancies and dangerous advice excised}.
    You seem to be suffering from the same syndrome that Mayflow suffers from: Ignorant arrogance.

    You have no knowledge of what the OP's problem is. It is therefore irresponsible and unethical for you to offer any advice at all (other than to seek appropriate care).
    I see you are not only not nice to me, and you wish to tell me how to relate to others? I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
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    I find many medical professionals inadequate...{irrelevancies and dangerous advice excised}.
    You seem to be suffering from the same syndrome that Mayflow suffers from: Ignorant arrogance.

    You have no knowledge of what the OP's problem is. It is therefore irresponsible and unethical for you to offer any advice at all (other than to seek appropriate care).
    I see you are not only not nice to me, and you wish to tell me how to relate to others? I don't think so.
    Niceness, in your thinking, apparently means "allow any and all nonsense, no matter how wrong or unethical or dangerous, to go unchallenged." But your "niceness" in this case endangers the well-being (even potentially the life) of the OP. What should be our response? Praise for you? Or silence?

    I point out that my use of "ignorant" and "arrogant" is fully supported by the evidence. Niether you nor Zwolver (or any of us) knows what the OP is suffering from. So we are all ignorant.

    Despite that ignorance, you and Zwolver presume nonetheless to offer advice. That's arrogant (and dangerous, and therefore unethical).

    Whether nice or not nice, you and he have posted ignorantly and arrogantly.

    The problem isn't my lack of niceness. It's your incessant, unfiltered posting of utter bollocks with the expectation that all should stand up and cheer.

    Sorry, but if you don't like being criticised, then stop posting shite. It really is that simple.

    Zwolver posted similar shite, and got a similar reaction. I'm nothing if not fair.

    This is a science forum, remember?
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    Well if this is being nice to me and Zwolver, I will pass on your niceness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    Well if this is being nice to me and Zwolver, I will pass on your niceness.

    Among your other problems, you have poor reading comprehension skills. I am merely -- and correctly -- pointing out the serious problems with your posts. Niceness is not one of the basis vectors of the space I am employing.
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    I think McBurney made a good point. If you google “McBurney’s point”, then you’ll see what I mean.

    Anyone who’s never before heard of McBurney’s point shouldn’t even think of posting here, except to tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    And those of us who have heard of McBurney’s point should only tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    The first and foremost — and only — concern in this thread is to tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    Ambulances with flashing lights and blaring sirens that weave in and out of traffic, drive down the wrong side of the street, and run red lights are not “nice” to the other drivers. The duty of the ambulance is not to be “nice” to other drivers — it is to get the patient to professional medical care. On the other hand, the duty of the other drivers is to get out of the way.

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    I hope the following incident helps show the difference between being “nice” and being ”safe”.

    I volunteered at a soup kitchen. The guy running the kitchen thought it would be “nice” for a little kid to help on the serving line, and the kid did look cute putting buns on people's plates. Unfortunately, I later saw the kid in the bathroom while wearing his serving gloves, and I found out later, after he returned to serving the food, that he did not change gloves as I told him to do. Yeah, not “safe” at all, especially considering that soup kitchens tend to serve poor people, old people, disabled people, and other people with compromised immune systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmonroe View Post
    I think McBurney made a good point. If you google “McBurney’s point”, then you’ll see what I mean.

    Anyone who’s never before heard of McBurney’s point shouldn’t even think of posting here, except to tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    And those of us who have heard of McBurney’s point should only tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    The first and foremost — and only — concern in this thread is to tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    Ambulances with flashing lights and blaring sirens that weave in and out of traffic, drive down the wrong side of the street, and run red lights are not “nice” to the other drivers. The duty of the ambulance is not to be “nice” to other drivers — it is to get the patient to professional medical care. On the other hand, the duty of the other drivers is to get out of the way.

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    I hope the following incident helps show the difference between being “nice” and being ”safe”.

    I volunteered at a soup kitchen. The guy running the kitchen thought it would be “nice” for a little kid to help on the serving line, and the kid did look cute putting buns on people's plates. Unfortunately, I later saw the kid in the bathroom while wearing his serving gloves, and I found out later, after he returned to serving the food, that he did not change gloves as I told him to do. Yeah, not “safe” at all, especially considering that soup kitchens tend to serve poor people, old people, disabled people, and other people with compromised immune systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmonroe View Post
    I think McBurney made a good point. If you google “McBurney’s point”, then you’ll see what I mean.

    Anyone who’s never before heard of McBurney’s point shouldn’t even think of posting here, except to tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    And those of us who have heard of McBurney’s point should only tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    The first and foremost — and only — concern in this thread is to tell the OP to seek advice from a medical professional instead of this forum.

    Ambulances with flashing lights and blaring sirens that weave in and out of traffic, drive down the wrong side of the street, and run red lights are not “nice” to the other drivers. The duty of the ambulance is not to be “nice” to other drivers — it is to get the patient to professional medical care. On the other hand, the duty of the other drivers is to get out of the way.

    ###

    I hope the following incident helps show the difference between being “nice” and being ”safe”.

    I volunteered at a soup kitchen. The guy running the kitchen thought it would be “nice” for a little kid to help on the serving line, and the kid did look cute putting buns on people's plates. Unfortunately, I later saw the kid in the bathroom while wearing his serving gloves, and I found out later, after he returned to serving the food, that he did not change gloves as I told him to do. Yeah, not “safe” at all, especially considering that soup kitchens tend to serve poor people, old people, disabled people, and other people with compromised immune systems.



    I can vouch for the homeless guys you were serving that they didn't think it was cute or nice to have a 6 year old serving their food. I hated it when they had young kids on the line serving. For one thing they have no concept of food safety....wiping their nose with their hands.... AND they suck at portion control! You never knew what kind of portion you would get. I'm sure the parents just wanted them to learn to help the needy...and thats a good thing. Just have them watch or hand out non-food items....safe and nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk421 View Post
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    I find many medical professionals inadequate...{irrelevancies and dangerous advice excised}.
    You seem to be suffering from the same syndrome that Mayflow suffers from: Ignorant arrogance.

    You have no knowledge of what the OP's problem is. It is therefore irresponsible and unethical for you to offer any advice at all (other than to seek appropriate care).
    I am not stating that i know his problem. However, i named some harmless ways for him to try solve it himself.

    I only gave my opinion on the above thing. It was a representation of my own feelings and experiences on medical professionals. I was hospitalized only once, for a "harmless" procedure, but they failed to test me to a reaction to the anesthetic (they had time for this, but it was too rare of a condition to bother apparently). I went in too deep, my arteries started rupturing, and my blood pressure dropped, and almost went into a coma. Next, the other doctor came into the room. Had no knowledge of my condition still, or what has happened before, then i started choking in my uvula, as it was long enough to block my airway (because of the complications). This doctor started panicking, and i had to save myself, putting a finger in my own throat, and putting it on my tongue, about 20 minutes after i gained consciousness. I had no knowledge of the fact that i almost died, only afterwards a nurse told me.

    After this, i started reading experiences from other people about doctors, some safety reports, scientific research, etc. A doctor is just a person, he can make mistakes, that's all i was trying to say here.
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    It is an internet forum. If the OP hadn't wanted opinions, why would he/she post here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayflow View Post
    It is an internet forum. If the OP hadn't wanted opinions, why would he/she post here?
    Of course they did. That is no excuse for unqualified people to hand out medical advice.
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    Is it medical advice to tell them to start chewing their food, or to check if they are lactose intolerant?
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    It's fair to say that, if medical problems could be properly, safely and professionally diagnosed on an Internet forum or chat or by texting, then they'd be doing it by now.

    The fact that someone asks us for our unprofessional medical advice does not relieve us from the irresponsibility of providing it. Reason, prudence and compassion dictates that, except for an emergency/good samaritan situation, we should admit we don't know and that we should direct the person to seek out the appropriate healthcare professionals.

    In the present case, the patient could be taking very questionable medical advice — such as: drinking an extra glass of water with every meal, chewing each bite 32 times (once for each tooth!), refraining from all alcoholic drinks, sleeping only on his left-hand side, etc — while, let's say, his chronic appendicitis experiences a rupture, which threatens his life and long-term health.
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    It would serve him right!

    Oops, sorry, obviously the wrong attitude on my part.
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