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Thread: Is there a limit to microwaving something?

  1. #1 Is there a limit to microwaving something? 
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    Is a piece of meat always safe to eat, no matter what condition it is, or how old it is, as long as you properly heat it to the point that all the bacteria is dead?


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    For one thing, there are prion diseases like mad cow that are not killed by cooking. Reheating food with a microwave is not a good way to kill bacteria.


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    Also, many bacteria produce toxins. So, even if you killed them all, you could still be very ill (or die, in the case of Clostridium botulinum).
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    I was going to mention botulism, but the toxin is destroyed by high temperature.
    CDC - Botulism, General Information - NCZVED
    Because the botulinum toxin is destroyed by high temperatures, persons who eat home-canned foods should consider boiling the food for 10 minutes before eating it to ensure safety.
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    OK. Wikipedia is a bit less helpful than usual.

    As these microorganisms colonize a piece of meat, they begin to break it down, leaving behind toxins that can cause enteritis or food poisoning, potentially lethal in the rare case of botulism. The microorganisms do not survive a thorough cooking of the meat, but several of their toxins and microbial spores do.The microbes may also infect the person eating the meat, although against this the microflora of the human gut is normally an effective barrier.
    Meat spoilage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Unfortunately, they don't give any details of any particular toxin other than botulism and I couldn't track down any details of others.

    Basically, if it smells bad and/or looks bad, don't risk it.
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    Except if your name is Bear Grylls, then you can simply eat everything you want.
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    Except if your name is Bear Grylls, then you can simply eat everything you want.
    Who in many ways goes against rule number 1 for every other survivalist and folks who've studied survival situations....don't take unnecessary risk.
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    He does one thing right though, slow overcooked meat, even if badly spoiled, gets rid of bacteria--and if it's a choice between the one in a million chance of getting madcow, or starvation, well that's no choice at all--hold your nose and enjoy the high as all those calories hit you from the meal. Don't try it at home though--that's unnecessary risk.

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    the one in a million chance of getting madcow, or starvation, well that's no choice at all--hold your nose and enjoy the high as all those calories hit you from the meal. Don't try it at home though--that's unnecessary risk.
    Yup. My mother used to get absolutely furious with her father when my parents were caring for the olds. He'd eat mouldy bread or cook with rancid fat which stank out the house. She'd race into the kitchen or recoil in horror at the table and he'd assure her that he used to eat this sort of thing all the time when he was a POW. So it was perfectly OK.

    "Not in my kitchen!" she'd roar/complain/scream at him.

    And she was right. Nobody in that house would starve for want of that slice of bread or run out of food because they opened up a new bottle of oil. But he kept on doing it - forever. He might have lived to 94, but we can't all be guaranteed of a cast iron constitution and a perpetual lucky streak.
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