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    That's also a very nice picture, sheheresade. You have so many talents and interests !
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    I see. In my neck of the woods barrows and guilts? are talked about by hog producers. I assume they mean altered in that (horrible) way. Maybe I should not have asked, but thank you for being so helpful, as always.
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    I don't know what "bollocks" are, but let's keep the punches 'up', Stargate. Duck, are you sure you speak English ? I'm quite unserious. Of course you must. Pardon my American manners, which is to say my lack, thereof.
    Let's just say that a bullock has no bollocks.

    (A bullock is a steer, formerly a bull.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic View Post
    There is too much reference on this thread to anecdotes and 'experience'. Both have some value but within limits.

    The best use of anecdotes and experience is to indicate a direction for scientific testing. So someone will say, "Anecdotally, herbal preparation X has benefit Y." The scientist hears this and says : "OK. Let's give it a try." And a proper scientific test is set up. And then another and another, if the results look promising.

    But until the testing program is complete, such anecdotes and experience are pretty much worthless.
    If you look at the vast testing ground for some plants, seeds and other medicines if you could involve cultures in the scientific arena. Think of the money that could be save on pharmaceuticals if they were to incorporate the use of some of these medicines from cultures all around the world. The biggest part of testing takes time and, I may add, money, it would be so much scientific if there was a connection to some of these unrecognized sources. Lets take the use of Cannabis, there are untold positive uses for the herb, yet only a few know the real truth, the rest of the knowledge lies in the grasp of the users, they are the ones with the knowledge and the testing and I may also add, results. I myself know a lot about Aloe Vera from a scientific point of view, I also know a lot more about the plant from personally using it, especially when you know the right mixture of other natural stuff that can be added. I have not been able to find any scientific study done on some of those mixtures I have found. I do not use anything other than natural substances.

    science as is holds its own value, however there is a wider knowledge base out there and it is relatively cheap and reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by umbradiago View Post
    Duck, are you sure you speak English ?
    (British) English is my mother tongue.
    I was also quite fluent in French, can get by (as a tourist) in German, and used to be barely acceptable in Russian 1.
    Plus enough swear words/ insults in other languages to get my face punched in at least 14 different countries.

    1 I'm quite prepared to buy (military technology) books/ magazines in those languages and work my way through them.
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    Stargate, I wouldn't give your confidence to me. I'm irresponsible. But your views are welcome any time; this applies to everyone else, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargate View Post
    if you could involve cultures in the scientific arena
    Stop talking crap.
    Science has nothing to do with "cultures".
    Science is a methodology. You're either doing science or you aren't.

    it would be so much scientific if there was a connection to some of these unrecognized sources
    And again a ridiculous statement.
    Science will get around to testing them when it can.

    there are untold positive uses for the herb
    According to you, but NOT supported by science.

    I myself know a lot about Aloe Vera from a scientific point of view
    Given the almost total ignorance that you've so far displayed with regard to science - what it is and how it works I'm more than slightly suspicious of this claim of yours.

    however there is a wider knowledge base out there and it is relatively cheap and reliable.
    The point is: it's NOT reliable. And therfeore it's NOT cheap because validating the claims (or refuting them) will cost money.
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    I'm impressed, particularly with the face-punching thing. This is my territory. Pissing-off idiots brings that upon oneself. I like it. So do you. You have my respect Mr. Duck. My bully encounters are strictly with local-yokels. Most Americans bark better than they bite. I'm brash, but not rude and I love dropping bullies. I also like helping them up and explaining where they went wrong. It's kinda' my "thing" that I "do". You and I should go to Hamburg and talk shit. Send plane tickets. Or fancy ones, whatever. "Whatever" is what Americans say when they're not sure what to say. Which is often.
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    Duck, are you sure you speak English ?
    (British) English is my mother tongue.
    I was also quite fluent in French, can get by (as a tourist) in German, and used to be barely acceptable in Russian 1.
    Plus enough swear words/ insults in other languages to get my face punched in at least 14 different countries.

    1 I'm quite prepared to buy (military technology) books/ magazines in those languages and work my way through them.
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    Blood 'Sausage', thanks babe. I think I'd said blood pie. No matter; I'm not eating ANYTHING which starts with "blood". I happen to like beef liver, a little, but note that my dogs
    have never liked it. This is...worrisome.
    You are welcome.

    Beef liver....only if smothered in chili so I could not taste it........grandfather and great uncle made blood sausage yearly and we'd have a feast at Slovenian Hall.....I miss it....*ooze ooze ooze*
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    @umbradiago I was a student for 8 years, you think I've never smoked a joint or done other drugs? I've done my share, it does not change the fact that personal experience and anecdote are pretty much useless as scientific evidence.
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    OOoooowww, i'm glad i was quit as smoker for around 6 month ago....
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    Ok, then, Ph. Now I'm prepared to agree with you. I don't, still, but I'm prepared to. What do you mean by 'pretty much" ? That a scientific term ? I'm not saying empirical evidence isn't superior, only that personal experience has some value. Pretty much. Anecdotal is not hard evidence. Science is. Experiential might be considered 'soft' evidence. Of the type Bush had from his own intelligence agencies as opposed to that of the British intelligence services, which put ours to shame. Americans suck at espionage. Ask any Brit involved in intelligence gathering. Sorry to mix topics. I'm stoned.
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    Ok sloppy use of language on my part, it's COMPLETELY useless as scientific evidence but may give an indication of a possibility worth testing. Happy now?
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    Yes, but I was already happy. I told you I was stoned, didn't I ? Sounds like you could use a little. Happiness, I mean. ?
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    Ok sloppy use of language on my part, it's COMPLETELY useless as scientific evidence but may give an indication of a possibility worth testing. Happy now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by umbradiago View Post
    Sorry to mix topics. I'm stoned.
    I found your post rather amusing. But that may be due to being high.
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    It may. I find your avatar amusing. Yea, I'm loaded.
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    Homebrew and homegrow! Go ahead, envy me. It's okay.
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    Of course it's harmful. Tobacco is too. So why isn't tobacco illegal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weterman View Post
    Of course it's harmful. Tobacco is too. So why isn't tobacco illegal?
    For the same reason alcohol isn't illegal. Some drugs are considered socially acceptable. Grandfathering pot into the system is hard.
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    True, Flick. Becoming less so, though, as pot-head grandfathers like myself change popular perspective. The past three US presidents tried weed at some point, though not all three 'came clean' on it. Only Obama has. Bush was a coke-head so he came-across some and probably tried it. Clinton copped-out, saying he didn't inhale. Sure.
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    Of course it's harmful. Tobacco is too. So why isn't tobacco illegal?
    For the same reason alcohol isn't illegal. Some drugs are considered socially acceptable. Grandfathering pot into the system is hard.
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    i do not see marijuana as 'dangerous drug'. i see it as better than alcohol as far as society is concerned. it is not as dangerous as tobacco to your health. who smokes 20 or more marijuana cigs each and every day ? no one i met or know. but i do know several friends who smoke 20 tobacco cigs per day.
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    Same reason pot will soon be. And, in fact, is, in some of the clearer-thinking places. revenue.
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    Of course it's harmful. Tobacco is too. So why isn't tobacco illegal?
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    Pot is the biggest-grossing 'produce' of them all. When the government figures-out that more revenue can be collected from it's legal sale than from stealing it and the
    rewards of it's trafficking from illegal entities, they'll want into the game and will declare it legal. Think Gambling. This is the way of vice and virtue in our money-conscious
    , personal-rights "pending", hypocritical nation; land of the free. As long as you can pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    Of course it's harmful. Tobacco is too. So why isn't tobacco illegal?
    For the same reason alcohol isn't illegal. Some drugs are considered socially acceptable. Grandfathering pot into the system is hard.
    Almost everyone I know smokes pot. I'm sure the majority of people in America smokes pot. So how is it so socially unacceptable?
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    The prohibition of pot is Totalitarian. And I say Fuck Them ! The FBI is reading this. That bother anyone, else ? If it does, don't reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weterman View Post
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    Of course it's harmful. Tobacco is too. So why isn't tobacco illegal?
    For the same reason alcohol isn't illegal. Some drugs are considered socially acceptable. Grandfathering pot into the system is hard.
    Almost everyone I know smokes pot. I'm sure the majority of people in America smokes pot. So how is it so socially unacceptable?
    If the majority of people in America smoke pot, I would not say its socially unacceptable.
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    I don't smoke pot....I do, however feel it should be legalized and have for many years.
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    Not only should it be legal, it should be affordable. 3 grams of weed here costs about 70 euro's. In contrast, cocaine would only cost 200 euro's for 3 grams. This would make the cost difference between soft drugs, and hard drugs too little and that is bad. Weed has been so heavily taxed here, (600%) that it ceases being funny. Basically it is just a crop, that requires drying. So say, unpopped popcorn would be a good baseline. Price of a kilo for popcorn would be 3 euro's, make weed 10 times this, and you will have 30 cents for 10 grams.. which is cheap. Tax this 200%, and it's about 1 euro for 10 grams, which it should be, and not more expensive...
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    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    don't even talk to me about that...I had renters who used the house to dry weed

    If I had a gun

    I'd freaking shoot their freaking pissing asses...

    It cost me 6000 dollars to clean up their shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weterman View Post
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    Of course it's harmful. Tobacco is too. So why isn't tobacco illegal?
    For the same reason alcohol isn't illegal. Some drugs are considered socially acceptable. Grandfathering pot into the system is hard.
    Almost everyone I know smokes pot. I'm sure the majority of people in America smokes pot. So how is it so socially unacceptable?
    You're going to need a citation for "the majority of people in America smoke pot". It's socially unacceptable because you can get arrested for doing it. We also have a long history of painting people who smoke pot as dropouts, losers, and bums. It takes a while to get past something like that.

    As to pot not being "dangerous", I would say it all depends upon the circumstance. ALL drugs are dangerous. I would even argue that almost anything, in the right dosage and situation, can be dangerous. Too much water, too much nitrogen, too much sunlight. What we need to do here in America, and this is just my opinion, is get away from the notion that anything which has the potential to harm us should be outlawed. If people do it in such a manner that it threatens others, that is when legal action must be taken.
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    As per many people, I have tried pot when I was younger and I really did not care for the fact that it stole my initiative. I am an industrious person by nature and I do not like anything which insinuates itself into my body and brain and steals my thunder. But that is just my own opinion.

    Other people speak to their experience as being profoundly enlightening and inspirational, creative for the arts etc. Marijuana has been demonstrated to be of some assistance as an appetite stimulant and an aid for those dealing with terminal illness. In no way do I think my personal opinion should negate their use and appreciation of the substance.

    I know that far more people use marijuana than will speak openly about it. The biggest farce in my mind was years ago when our newly elected Territoial Justice and Education Minister was a well known 'recreational user'. That really offended me, that she took the oath of office. (Not that I have much respect for the business of 'justice' either, but that is a rant for another thread.)

    Perhaps some of the challenges facing the government when it comes to legalizing marijuana are:

    1. How to regulate and collect the tax money.
    2. How to ensure an adequate supply of good quality product.
    3. How to monitor and keep unregulated pot off the market, given that it grows like a weed in the correct climate.

    As much as I believe in letting everyone 'do their own thing', I surely do not want to fly with a whacked out pilot or go under the knife with a surgeon who uses weed, to name just two scenarios. We have a measurable limit of alcohol and the means to test for it. Do we have such a number or technology for marijuana?

    Impaired is impaired is impaired, when it puts others at risk and that applies to all substances, sleep deprivation (I really have to watch this one), emotional distress, physical exhaustion etc. A lot more dialogue and thought needs to go into legalizing marijuana, in my opinion. Babe raises an excellent concern. What about the use of pot in rental properties? That stuff has a very distinct stench and some of it is more 'skunky' than other strains. Second hand smoke (of all types) has been identified as a legitimate health concern.
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    Well put, Sher. But I rather doubt anything or anyone can take away your thunder. I also wouldn't want my surgeon or pilot to be under the Influence. But testing doesn't reveal present state-of-mind, only recent (months ago) use. Even a drunk sobers-up before taking the controls. Well, usually.
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    As for rental properties, being an itinerant academic I've had my fair share of short term tenancy agreements here in the UK, usually the first clauses are "no pets, no smoking" used to piss me off no end having to go into the garden to smoke even though I was paying extortionate rent but I'm now a non-smoker and my attitude has changed
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    To make a long story into an epic saga, I've stated that Einstein, among others before, is credited with the observation that imagination is useful, even necessary
    to theory. Sagan wrote that marijuana aids imagination. No one has challenged that, to my knowledge. Why not ?
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    Stoned again. Think again tomorrow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by umbradiago View Post
    To make a long story into an epic saga, I've stated that Einstein, among others before, is credited with the observation that imagination is useful, even necessary
    to theory. Sagan wrote that marijuana aids imagination. No one has challenged that, to my knowledge. Why not ?
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    Just because Sagan made a claim doesn't mean it's true - except, possibly, for him.
    Marijuana does nothing for me (unless you count getting a warm spot on the back of my neck), and my imagination's never required aid.
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    Apparently not. So, pot's well-documented effects don't 'effect' you ? When did you last try some. It's improved from your college days (the 1800's ?) Maybe you'd have to BE Carl Sagan to answer the damned question. Is that what you're implying ? 'Cause I'm starting to suspect you NEED some pot. Your imagination isn't so evident from outside. Your scientific standards are admirably high. Every thing, every idea, rises from imagination. You can research that one all you care to.
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    No good, Ph; I'll be stoned again tomorrow. And I'll still be making as much logical sense as my esteemed co-members. Maybe more. When does the brain-damage emerge ? Just not experience such. Instead of attacking me, stick to the question at hand. ad hominem, if you want, but the stew doesn't need any.
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    An article that points to the explanation why some people may not experience much effect from cannibus.

    The Neuroscience of Pot: Researchers Explain Why Marijuana May Bring Serenity Or Psychosis


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    According to the experts, and to people who use it, pot can have widely disparate effects on people’s behavior, depending on…well, that part is still a bit unclear. Marijuana has been shown to have both anxiolytic (anti-anxiety) effects and to induce anxiety and psychosis in certain people. In schizophrenics, it can increase symptoms, and in healthy people it can increase the risk of schizophrenia. Now, new study shows that the two active ingredients in pot, Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD) may have quite opposite effects on the brain – and behavior – and could explain why pot’s effects can be unpredictable.
    In the new study, the researchers had 15 men who were relatively unseasoned pot users take capsules containing THC, CBD, and flour (placebo) on each of three occasions. The participants then took simple computer tests in which arrows, pointing either left or right, flashed on the screen; the men had to respond based on their direction. Occasionally, an “oddball” arrow was thrown in to the sequence, which was at a 23-degree angle.
    This setup allowed the researchers to compare the men’s reactions to usual vs. oddball stimuli, and to see how the various chemicals affected it. How people react to mundane environmental cues vs. the unexpected ones is thought to be linked to mental health, and therefore, to disorders. So, the men’s reaction times were measured, and their brains were scanned with fMRI to see what was going on neurologically. Their psychotic symptoms were also compared across conditions.
    The men who had taken THC had more psychotic symptoms like altered thinking (paranoid and delusional thoughts) than men who’d taken either CBD or placebo.
    The THC also had a greater effect on reaction time to the standard, rather than the oddball, conditions. This suggests that THC could change what people see as important environmental stimuli (more on this later). Men who had taken the THC also had less activation in the caudate nucleus: and the less activity in the area, the more marked the men’s psychotic symptoms and affected their reaction times. Alterations in the activity in the striatum and prefrontal cortex also suggested a possible mechanism for the increase of psychotic symptoms.
    Taking CBD, however, had the opposite effect of THC. It tended to speed up response time to the oddball stimuli, compared to the standard ones, which suggests that it works with our natural tendency to react to unexpected stimuli, rather than against it. And the brain regions that were activated after CBD ingestion were largely counter to those activated with THC. Previous research has suggested that CBD has antipsychotic effects, and this seems to be supported by the current study.
    So what’s the relationship between response to arrows on a screen and psychotic symptoms? Normally, people tend to react to out-of-the-ordinary stimuli over the usual ones. In this study, however, people on THC had boosted responses to the mundane stimuli, and were less responsive to the unexpected ones. In the real world, if one has problems ignoring ordinary stimuli in the environment – and even has a ramped-up or atypical response to them – this could creep into the territory of hallucination. Earlier studies have found links between chronic marijuana use and an increased risk for developing psychotic symptoms. Of course, it’s hard to tell whether marijuana use leads to mental health problems or already having mental health problems leads to increased marijuana use, but this and other studies suggest that it’s more likely the former case.
    On the other hand, CBD seems to counter the effect of THC, and could (possibly) be used as an antipsychotic. The team’s earlier work actually showed that pretreatment with CBD can block the psychotic effects of THC administration.
    The problem is that most people don’t ingest CBD or THC capsules in real life. They smoke pot, which includes both chemicals. Therefore, the study doesn’t quite explain why taking in both chemicals in at the same time would have different effects in different people (or different effects in the same person on different occasions). For example, why some people are more susceptible to the negative effects of the drug than others is still unclear, but it may be due to the patterns of the different cannabidiol receptors in the brain or other differences that have yet to be determined.

    The study does help explain why synthetic marijuana has been linked to more adverse effects than natural cannabis. Synthetic forms of the drug, like K2, which have been associated with more hallucinations, agitation, and ER visits, are made largely of chemicals that are thought to mimic THC.
    Future studies will have to look into some of these remaining questions, but this study makes a good stab at explaining why marijuana can lead to such different experiences in people who use it.
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    ^I bet there is a correlation between caloric expenditure and relative uptake for THC vs CBD. That's just my guess.
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    STEALING SCHEHERAZADE'S THUNDER!!!

    and not giving it back!!!
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    STEALING SCHEHERAZADE'S THUNDER!!!

    and not giving it back!!!
    LOL...

    You are welcome to as much of it as you can carry.
    (Ever tried to carry thunder?)
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    You both have a lot. I love strong-willed woman. Theatrical and practical, equally. I'm feeling more like Franklin all the time.
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    You both have a lot. I love strong-willed woman. Theatrical and practical, equally. I'm feeling more like Franklin all the time.

    Does he know that?
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    You both have a lot. I love strong-willed woman. Theatrical and practical, equally. I'm feeling more like Franklin all the time.

    Does he know that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by umbradiago View Post
    You both have a lot. I love strong-willed woman. Theatrical and practical, equally. I'm feeling more like Franklin all the time.
    Quite a number of men profess to enjoy the company of strong-willed women.

    Very few actually decide to marry one.

    It takes a very confident man to actually co-habit with the species.

    (I'm feeling sassy, lol. Hubby invited me to lunch in town later today. Now there's a man with class. Invite your wife [of many years] on a date. When we met, we were too poor for such indulgences so it is really rather fun to be able to dine out in style.)
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    So true. Most men like to call the shots. More women shoot better. Glad you're feeling sassy. Enjoy your evening with Hubby.
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    Being stoned every day doesn't seem to make you the best spokesperson for pot. In fact, it sounds more like you're the poster child for addiction...
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    To make a long story into an epic saga, I've stated that Einstein, among others before, is credited with the observation that imagination is useful, even necessary
    to theory. Sagan wrote that marijuana aids imagination. No one has challenged that, to my knowledge. Why not ?
    How can imagination be challenged, it has no particular direction. I might be drawing attention to myself but, I cannot see how I can leave the spirit out of the equation when it has to do with imagination. My imagination is a free part of me. Pot does nothing more than bridge the gap between the spirit and the physical. All I can rely on is the feeling I get when I change the receptors in my nerve system when I take in any substance, not only marijuana.
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    How can imagination be challenged
    Try reading what was written.

    Pot does nothing more than bridge the gap between the spirit and the physical.
    No.

    All I can rely on is the feeling I get when I change the receptors in my nerve system when I take in any substance, not only marijuana.
    Whut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargate View Post
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    To make a long story into an epic saga, I've stated that Einstein, among others before, is credited with the observation that imagination is useful, even necessaryto theory. Sagan wrote that marijuana aids imagination. No one has challenged that, to my knowledge. Why not ?
    How can imagination be challenged, it has no particular direction. I might be drawing attention to myself but, I cannot see how I can leave the spirit out of the equation when it has to do with imagination. My imagination is a free part of me. Pot does nothing more than bridge the gap between the spirit and the physical. All I can rely on is the feeling I get when I change the receptors in my nerve system when I take in any substance, not only marijuana.
    See, THIS is the reason people think potheads are burnouts and losers. You'd have to be high for this to make any sense.
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    You both have a lot. I love strong-willed woman. Theatrical and practical, equally. I'm feeling more like Franklin all the time.
    Quite a number of men profess to enjoy the company of strong-willed women.

    Very few actually decide to marry one.

    It takes a very confident man to actually co-habit with the species.
    I'm married to one. I cannot imagine any other way. I am often wrong. Once i build up a head of steam and start rumbling down the tracks, if I had a weak willed woman she just might follow me into hell.
    This one don't mind getting in my way and slowing me down.
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    Not only should it be legal, it should be affordable. 3 grams of weed here costs about 70 euro's.
    Hi Zwolver. I noticed you are from the Netherlands and found this odd - 12 Euros could normally get you a gram of pretty decent smoke so I'm surprised to see you say it's about twice that much. Weed in the Dam (or The Hague, for that matter) hasn't been a compelling reason to visit since they restricted the strains sold and with top class Cheese available @ £210 per ounce in the UK we don't do too badly but is still very expensive. I agree it should be more affordable but even growing your own in the UK entails high energy costs.


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    To make a long story into an epic saga, I've stated that Einstein, among others before, is credited with the observation that imagination is useful, even necessaryto theory. Sagan wrote that marijuana aids imagination. No one has challenged that, to my knowledge. Why not ?
    How can imagination be challenged, it has no particular direction. I might be drawing attention to myself but, I cannot see how I can leave the spirit out of the equation when it has to do with imagination. My imagination is a free part of me. Pot does nothing more than bridge the gap between the spirit and the physical. All I can rely on is the feeling I get when I change the receptors in my nerve system when I take in any substance, not only marijuana.
    See, THIS is the reason people think potheads are burnouts and losers. You'd have to be high for this to make any sense.
    Can't really say it helps any.
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    Didn't suggest I was the best. And I'm not a child, though one still lives in me. What happened to your inner-child ? Drown him in the bathwater of Reason ? Shouda' taught him to swim, instead.Or to fly. BTW, I'm straight, today, but not as a result of guilt or any other useless insights offered. I'm just out of the stuff. I'm testing a theory.
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    Didn't suggest I was the best. And I'm not a child, though one still lives in me. What happened to your inner-child ? Drown him in the bathwater of Reason ? Shouda' taught him to swim, instead.Or to fly. BTW, I'm straight, today, but not as a result of guilt or any other useless insights offered. I'm just out of the stuff. I'm testing a theory.
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    Being stoned every day doesn't seem to make you the best spokesperson for pot. In fact, it sounds more like you're the poster child for addiction...
    ... uh, as long as whatever this is makes sense to you, I guess that's all that matters.
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    Are we privileged to ask what theory you are testing or would this sharing of information possibly somehow influence the experiment?
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    You may all ask anything, anytime. I'm testing whether abstinence effects thought, particularly the ability to Reason. I already know that it does; how that manifests itself is my aim. This is not a controlled study. I don't have enough weed for one. Or any, in fact. Maybe it's sobriety I'm testing. I don't know. The examples of that offered, here, are...unconvincing. Some are, I mean. The "male' examples are especially so.
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    Ad hominem, Flick ? I'm disappointed.
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    To make a long story into an epic saga, I've stated that Einstein, among others before, is credited with the observation that imagination is useful, even necessaryto theory. Sagan wrote that marijuana aids imagination. No one has challenged that, to my knowledge. Why not ?
    How can imagination be challenged, it has no particular direction. I might be drawing attention to myself but, I cannot see how I can leave the spirit out of the equation when it has to do with imagination. My imagination is a free part of me. Pot does nothing more than bridge the gap between the spirit and the physical. All I can rely on is the feeling I get when I change the receptors in my nerve system when I take in any substance, not only marijuana.
    See, THIS is the reason people think potheads are burnouts and losers. You'd have to be high for this to make any sense.
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    You both have a lot. I love strong-willed woman. Theatrical and practical, equally. I'm feeling more like Franklin all the time.
    Quite a number of men profess to enjoy the company of strong-willed women.

    Very few actually decide to marry one.

    It takes a very confident man to actually co-habit with the species.

    I'm married to one. I cannot imagine any other way. I am often wrong. Once i build up a head of steam and start rumbling down the tracks, if I had a weak willed woman she just might follow me into hell.
    This one don't mind getting in my way and slowing me down.

    Spousy finds that with me!! *L*...REDHEADED and if I feel I am right....I'll stick my little feet in the dirt and REFUSE to budge. In our business life, over the years, when we have discussed some moving forward things, and I was introduced into the mix....as the wife...and I had a really bad "Feeling" can't explain that so don't read anything into it, but Something was NOT RIGHT....and it was listened to, when I could produce WHY I had this "Negative feeling", and we didn't do it.....I was 100% ON THE MARK! I was the first woman in that position, in the office and I am proud that I broke some ground. So strong, yep. Theatre whore's have two jobs never just one....to make a living! Got to be good not just on stage!

    and yes....it takes a VERY CONFIDENT MAN to live with a Strong Woman, and not feel threatened but enhanced by each other.
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    Ad hominem, Flick ? I'm disappointed.
    Either you don't know what an ad hom is or you're confused by my statement.

    My point is that your comment was all over the place, bridging on metaphysical nonsense. When someone says they smoke pot and starts waxing philosophical about the gap between spirit and physical, you end up reinforcing this idea that has been pounded into our heads since early childhood; potheads are brainless washouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    Ad hominem, Flick ? I'm disappointed.
    Either you don't know what an ad hom is or you're confused by my statement.

    My point is that your comment was all over the place, bridging on metaphysical nonsense. When someone says they smoke pot and starts waxing philosophical about the gap between spirit and physical, you end up reinforcing this idea that has been pounded into our heads since early childhood; potheads are brainless washouts.
    Stargate's comment you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
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    Ad hominem, Flick ? I'm disappointed.
    Either you don't know what an ad hom is or you're confused by my statement.

    My point is that your comment was all over the place, bridging on metaphysical nonsense. When someone says they smoke pot and starts waxing philosophical about the gap between spirit and physical, you end up reinforcing this idea that has been pounded into our heads since early childhood; potheads are brainless washouts.
    Stargate's comment you mean?
    Reading comprehension has yet again proved a worthy nemesis. Thanks, Kalster.

    My other comments stand, but you can ignore the spirit thing. My fault.

    In an attempt to clean up my mess; this is the part where I got confused:

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    To make a long story into an epic saga, I've stated that Einstein, among others before, is credited with the observation that imagination is useful, even necessaryto theory. Sagan wrote that marijuana aids imagination. No one has challenged that, to my knowledge. Why not ?
    How can imagination be challenged, it has no particular direction. I might be drawing attention to myself but, I cannot see how I can leave the spirit out of the equation when it has to do with imagination. My imagination is a free part of me. Pot does nothing more than bridge the gap between the spirit and the physical. All I can rely on is the feeling I get when I change the receptors in my nerve system when I take in any substance, not only marijuana.
    See, THIS is the reason people think potheads are burnouts and losers. You'd have to be high for this to make any sense.
    I thought this was Stargate responding to my comment, not umbradigo. Sorry for the mix up.
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    I thought this was Stargate responding to my comment, not umbradigo. Sorry for the mix up.
    You mean you thought it was umbradigo responding to your comment, not Stargate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
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    I thought this was Stargate responding to my comment, not umbradigo. Sorry for the mix up.
    You mean you thought it was umbradigo responding to your comment, not Stargate?
    This time I think I've got it right. I thought the "ad hom" comment was Stargate.

    Apparently, I'll just have a go at anyone who talks to me. It was a rough day yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    I thought this was Stargate responding to my comment, not umbradigo. Sorry for the mix up.
    You mean you thought it was umbradigo responding to your comment, not Stargate?
    This time I think I've got it right. I thought the "ad hom" comment was Stargate.

    Apparently, I'll just have a go at anyone who talks to me. It was a rough day yesterday.
    Haha, ok. I think we can wade our way through and find who said what now. Know the feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
    Haha, ok. I think we can wade our way through and find who said what now. Know the feeling.
    To be honest, it's a little embarrassing to go back through and read the arguments you've had with someone. I just keep asking myself why I can't be the bigger man and let the piddly things go. I end up looking like as much of a bellend as the people at whom I'm ranting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
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    Haha, ok. I think we can wade our way through and find who said what now. Know the feeling.
    To be honest, it's a little embarrassing to go back through and read the arguments you've had with someone. I just keep asking myself why I can't be the bigger man and let the piddly things go. I end up looking like as much of a bellend as the people at whom I'm ranting.
    That you realize this much makes you look like much less of a bellend than some of those you argue with though and it shows. Again, I know the feeling. I have lost control quite a few times on this forum.
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    You have no idea how many times I come to a thread of interest, observe that it has gone slightly sideways, and quietly back away.

    Once these things get mixed up, attempts to sort them out can go terribly awry if anyone but a moderator opens their mouth.

    Besides, I can make enough of a fool of myself. I don't need any help.
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    It was a rough day yesterday.
    i do not think it is your fault. yesterday a nother member was arguing with every one in several threads, which i still do not understand why ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucknorium View Post
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    It was a rough day yesterday.
    i do not think it is your fault. yesterday a nother member was arguing with every one in several threads, which i still do not understand why ?
    Maybe the cable guy spent 8 hours of his day trying to get a friggin' modem to work, too?
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    KALSTER!!! *hugs* ARE you OK?

    Flicky....sometimes it gets confusing...and sometimes, well most of the time, I try to take the "high road", in everything in life in general, including forums and chats.
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    wow. two more people have died from marijuana (edibles):

    Two Denver deaths tied to recreational marijuana use - CBS News

    and in this past month over 7000 people have died from alcohol:

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