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  1. #1 Who Makes the Final Call? 
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    We heard it all. Doctors are human, too. Admittedly, and agreed 100%. So why is my all-time most invasive "imponderable' so ponderable? The vagueness of the certainty of diagnosis. Coupled with Kalster's "paranoia".

    Everyone urged to get regular check-ups. No problem with that. Check-up after check-up, minor adjustments recommended by your doctor, lose weight, exercise, lower that blood pressure and cholesterol, OOOOO, what's this? CBC indicates WBC, white blood cell (count) too high. Symptomless. The guy's strong as an ox, looks like you'd want him on your side in a barroom brawl. What gives? Something's swollen a bit here, few aches and pains noted on the "sign-in'. Any other untoward complaints? ("Got a pain Doc"). Where? (Well, it's in my ass"). Bend over and let's take a look at it, then. (This line taken from Grace Metalious' wonderful book, "Peyton Place"). Something's hard there. I'll schedule a biopsy.

    I feel good, Doc. What the hell's wrong?

    "Well, we think there's a mass, possibly a tumor, have you had any problems lately with....(XXXXX)." No, Hell, no. I feel fine!

    Just to be certain then, doctor recommends further tests. Ask: Tests: Are they invasive? CAN they cause more problems than already may exist?

    "Based on the tests performed, you are unfortunately diagnosed with a type of colon cancer, known as, XXXXXX. You are still a young man at 71, by today's standards. We feel an aggressive regimen of treatment may allow you to live yet to a longer life".

    HERE'S the ENIGMA! Is the cancer there? (No symptoms, poor guy shits the same as during the past thousand evacuations, no occult blood, no pain, no bloating, no "untoward symptoms", blood analysis mainly normal, though "GGT", (Gamma Glutamyl Transaminase") is high (due to alcohol consumption); these medical scares promote MORE alcohol consumption, akin to the Emphysema patient dragging around an oxygen tank, dragging on a cigarette, WTF, dying soon, anyway!

    My point is this: Is early cancer detection EVER proven 100% positive? 50% positive? Less? At what level is it useless?

    Of cancers "detected", how many are real?

    Consider: This is how the possibility of "erring" is swayed in favor of Medicine. Cancer diagnosed. Patient either accepts treatment or declines it. 1) Patient accepts treatment. Succumbs to the disease sometime later. 2) Patient accepts treatment, comes away "clean", cured. 3) Patient denies treatment: SOME will succumb, BUT SOME WILL NOT. HOW MANY DO NOT, vs How many Do? Such stats are really hard to obtain. What conclusions may be drawn in favor of the patient whose "cancer" did NOT prevail?

    We conclude that feeling well, not sick, but diagnosed with serious illness, is, the "rock and a hard spot". Should one so diagnosed submit blindly to medical advice? Or wait? Or seek "2nd opinion"? Well, guess what? Do you think that a second, unbiased opinion exists? Bullshit! All the medical records today are LINKED together. If you go to a new doctor, seeking second opinion, he will likely ALREADY have been submitted ALL of your PREVIOUS MEDICAL OPINIONS RENDERED!

    What do you think of that? jocular


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    Quote Originally Posted by jocular View Post
    wait? Or seek "2nd opinion"? Well, guess what? Do you think that a second, unbiased opinion exists? Bullshit! All the medical records today are LINKED together. If you go to a new doctor, seeking second opinion, he will likely ALREADY have been submitted ALL of your PREVIOUS MEDICAL OPINIONS RENDERED!

    What do you think of that? jocular
    From my personal experience : Always take second opinion.
    Sometime ago I had infection in my outer ear. I went to an ENT specialist. After examining he advised me to "let him operate on my ear surgically". I agreed. It was also very expensive. My brother adviced me to take second opinion from an other famous ENT specialist. Other specialist adviced me not to let him operate on my ear surgically and prescribed some medicine at that time. As the infection was not that serious and immediate to be operated surgically. Second Dr. saved my day. I am still thankful to him.


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